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SnoozieSiouxsie
09-06-2010, 12:23 AM
I still consider myself a beginner... and I'm tired of seaming stuff. I can't seam the edges right! It makes things that I swear almost looked really good... look not. so. really. good. I mean: it looks good at the front... just don't look at the back.

Is it time for me to finally get the guts to learn what you're all doing with circular needles???

On a side note: My mom's birthday is coming up and I'm trying to find a vest pattern. An easy vest pattern. Like, one that's done on straight needles. Can anyone direct me to one, please?

Also, I've ignored the gauge stuff. I'm ignoring it because it seems complicated. Should I stop moving on, and sit down and figure it out NOW?

So far, I like knitting. :knitting: Just... me slow. :pout:

Thanks to suzeeq for quickly answering my questions!

S.

link (http://www.allaboutyou.com/craft/Knitting-pattern-flower-baby-hat/v1)

Jan in CA
09-06-2010, 12:34 AM
Is it time for me to finally get the guts to learn what you're all doing with circular needles???



Yes, yes it is time. :lol: It's not hard at all. I think you'll kick yourself when you find out how easy it is. I never did seam a hat myself. Nor a sweater for that matter and I've made 3 adult and probably a dozen baby sweaters. :thumbsup:

You didn't say what kind of vest other than seamed (!?), but here's a few -
http://www.knittingdaily.com/media/p/32974.aspx
http://www.dailyknitter.com/michelle.html
http://www.knittingdaily.com/media/p/39284.aspx
http://www.piece-by-piece.net/Knit/easy_knit_vest.htm

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-06-2010, 12:57 AM
Aww man! I guess I have to learn how to use a stitch marker in order to make a vest... But for my mom? Heck yeah. Thanks, Jan! I think I'll try that second one.

Jan in CA
09-06-2010, 03:39 AM
Stitch markers are easy. You can do it!:thumbsup:

Lana
09-06-2010, 06:59 AM
Also, I've ignored the gauge stuff. I'm ignoring it because it seems complicated. Should I stop moving on, and sit down and figure it out NOW?
So far, I like knitting. :knitting: Just... me slow. :pout:



Gauge is the all important first step in any knitting project!!!

If you're a hands on learner, find someone who will help you with understanding it.

As far as being slow, unless your in a race or contest, what's the hurry?
I no longer start a project with a deadline in mind.
Deadlines can become very stressful. Knitting should be relaxing and enjoyable.

GET THE GAUGE! :thumbsup:

(note my signature)

hyperactive
09-06-2010, 09:22 AM
gauge just means: how big will it really be?
if you make a cute stuffed animal, well 2 inches tall is pretty much as good as 4 inches tall. Not so on a garment or functional piece.

you work with patterns, so the pattern needs to tell you how much to make for what size (starting with easy things as scarfs and ending in fitted garments).

gauge means nothing else then: "how big is your stitch?"

one stitch is hard to measure. so we count the amount of stitches in 10 by 10 cm or 4 by 4 inches (about the same). And we count the rows.

then you know: wow, I am using a yarn that has 160 meters to 50 g, if I make 20 stitches on needles size 4.5mm that is 10 cm wide. and I have to make 27 rows to get the same 10 cm.
this is, what I found out about my new yarn purchase on Saturday. And that made me very much smarter :D

I make a pullover that is 42 cm wide. so I need 84 stitches (42 cm / 10 cm * 20 stitches).
I added one stitch for reasons of my pattern making. and there you go: 85 stitches wide = 42,5 cm (for a child).


now, smaller needles or thinner yarn (or both, of course) would make my sweater smaller. Bigger needles or thicker yarn would make it bigger.

If I used a pattern and it would have told me 22 x 29, for example, then I would have tried needles a bit smaller. Maybe 4mm or 3.5mm. until I get it right. or it might have told me 12 x 16 - then I would have given up on that yarn, because that would be too lose.

Every knitter is different in tension and stitch size. Every combination of needle and yarn and knitter therefore makes a relatively unique gauge.

If you want your pattern to come out right, you need to match yourself, your needles and your yarn to your project.

yarn mostly says on the roll, what gauge it gives with a certain needle size. But that is just generic and not the absolute point of it all. So do your swatch.

And listen to suzees mantra about that: if you want to find out how many stitches there are in 4 by 4 inches, then knit a swatch bigger than that, at LEAST 4.5 by 4.5 inches, better 5x5. then count in the center of your swatch. End stitches are not acurate!
To measure and count: put a measuring tape or ruler on your swatch. lay it parallel to the row that you want to count accross. (no egde row). Then line up the "0" on it with the beginning of 1 stitch ( the top left of the "V" to the very left of your counting, if you do stochinette) then count to the 4 inch mark.

so, what did you get? sometimes it will not be a whole stitch in the end... so what? 20.5 stitches is a fine result. Just as 11 3/4 would be.

are you close to what you should have? or should you knit on with bigger or smaller needles and make a longer swatch? just try it out until it is right enough.

once I get the amount of stitches, I count the rows, because mostly you only get one of them "dead on" and the other close. I want my stitches dead on, since they matter much more for the fit. Length mostly is given in inches anyways.

the counting goes just the same.

NOTE DOWN what came out. Easy enough to forget. yarn, needle size, pattern (garter, stochinette, pattern... if you did any). stitch and row count.

then (I never cut the yarn on my swatches) rip out the swatch again and start your project with the right number of stitches and the correct needle size.


There is a lot of information about what you do if you can not line up your gauge. But if you can line it up: start your work.
If the yarn fits the project, it mostly will be easy.


on, and: CIRCULAR needles rule the world! for round AND straight knitting. Get some, take the treat.

Slim
09-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Adorable hat! And yes, it is time to start experimenting with knitting in the round. It's not really hard, and once you start you'll never look back.

WandaT
09-07-2010, 07:11 AM
It's adorable!! as for the rest - go for it! You'll probably be surprised how easy it is. :)

hyperactive
09-07-2010, 08:13 AM
a note on the side:
most knitters prefer knit stitches over purl stitches. When knitting in the round you make stochinette in knit stitches ONLY. Isn't that a treat?

on that topic of a vest pattern:

do you like pattern? http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=125&d_id=2&lang=en
or with cables? http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=123&d_id=10&lang=en

of course the patterns can be changed to a simple pattern or just st st. Ask if you need help in adjusting.

might you like this one? http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=121&d_id=31&lang=en

I just made this one here... and I am very happy with it.
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=121&d_id=27&lang=en

this one is on my wishlist of projects:
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=122&d_id=31&lang=en
as is this one:
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=122&d_id=31&lang=en
and this one:
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=121&d_id=21&lang=en

a nice one here:
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=121&d_id=17&lang=en
and another one here:
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=121&d_id=10&lang=en
more the summer thing?
http://garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=118&d_id=39&lang=en

or... you get the point, just browse garnstudio.com they have sooo many free patterns in English. And vests are bit there.

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-07-2010, 04:04 PM
I did a tiny version of the vest just to make sure I was going to do the big version correctly, using the stitch marker. You're right: that was easy. ^_^

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-07-2010, 04:07 PM
I dunno... I like things to go fast. I think that's why I'm skipping some learning. I just start something and if I get stuck, then I try youtube/forums and move on. I tried the gauge. It makes some sense now...

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-07-2010, 04:17 PM
I learned what gauge is but I only have 3 pairs of needles. All 3 did not give me the correct gauge and I really can't afford more needles right now. I kept trying with every needle and different yarns I do have. And, well, it just didn't work out. So I said "f u, swatch" and decided to:
-figure out my mom's size (well, I grabbed a shirt she wears that is not stretchy).
-then I grabbed the swatch of Wal-Mart yarn (affordable... if I need more, ok), and said "ok, I have 5 sts in 1 inch. If I want this vest to measure 40 inches, then divide by two and that gives me 20 inches. So... 20 x 5 = 100 sts."
-then I'll adjust the pattern, as I go.

I dunno but I have to manage with what I have and I'm just going to try it this way.

But I learned how to figure out the gauge, at least. =)

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-07-2010, 04:19 PM
Knit stitches only??? oOoOOoOooOO that does sound like a treat!

SnoozieSiouxsie
09-07-2010, 04:24 PM
I just learned what the purpose of quoting is. I have been replying to some comments and I figured it would attach them to the commenter's comment. But, I guess not... so you have to quote them so everyone knows you're not talking to yourself. I get it now...

Just saying... ;)

ArtLady1981
09-14-2010, 09:03 PM
I would DEFINITELY investigate videos here, and at YouTube, on how to perfect the "mattress seaming" technique. Every seam will turn out beautifully, and believe me when I say...it IS A CINCH. So much easier than other types of seaming.

I wouldn't try to avoid seaming. I've seen so many knitters GO WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY on a garment, knitting in the round, when the pattern directed flat knitting with seaming to put it all together. It can be more work TO RE-WORK a pattern, and if the only purpose is to avoid seaming...you're trading one 'headache' for a bigger headache.

Learn to seam. It's not as hard as you think...but only go for "mattress seaming". It is worked with the RIGHT SIDE facing you...and you can see the outcome as you work it from the bottom up.

Try using baby clippies to hold your work in place while you seam. Remove them as you approach them, one by one. It makes seaming very orderly and quick.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/3536547357_d8c129d3b1.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2038/3537361012_2bdfe2827b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3318/3568342950_183e8b6418.jpg?v=0

Jaxhil
09-15-2010, 03:30 PM
I love that hat, it's so cute! and yep, gauge is necessary, lol~but it's probably less time to learn it and test for gauge than it is to rip out a whole project and start over because the item didn't fit :)

MerigoldinWA
09-15-2010, 07:08 PM
Nice hat!! :heart: I never could see why anyone preferred to make a hat flat and then sew it up. Knitting in the round is easier and when it's done it's done. You'll love it.