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ste1ps
09-09-2010, 05:34 AM
Hi everyone, i'm a newbie and i've completed my first scarf. now i'm about to make my second but i would like to know if there is a way not to let the scarf coil up without putting fringes.
i've done my first scarf doing one line knit and one purl and i would like to repeat it the same way.
thank you
ps. sorry for my english but i'm italian :)

hyperactive
09-09-2010, 06:41 AM
Hi everyone, i'm a newbie and i've completed my first scarf. now i'm about to make my second but i would like to know if there is a way not to let the scarf coil up without putting fringes.
i've done my first scarf doing one line knit and one purl and i would like to repeat it the same way.
thank you
ps. sorry for my english but i'm italian :)

Boun giorno!

your English is fine, I think (well, I have to talk, I am German :) )

if you do your scarf in stochinette stitch (one row knit, one row purl) then it will curl. It will curl from the edges in on all 4 sides.

The amount of curl is different depending on the yarn, the needle size, the tension in the piece. But it will curl.

you can make the edges different (all knit stiches for a few stitches on each side and a few rows in beginning and end). A nice way is seed stich (one knit one purl - and then the opposite in the next row)

you can also make the scarf essentially with a back liner - a second scarf that you sew to the back. But that still does curl some (to a tube, lengthwise)...

there is a thread about stochinette stitch and curling:
http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32810

maybe that gives you more information.


By the way: on some scarfs I love how it curls in a tube / rolls up - at least on the sides... not so much on the ends :(

ste1ps
09-09-2010, 07:04 AM
thank you i'll try and let you know:)

hyperactive
09-10-2010, 07:35 AM
glad I could help!

ste1ps
09-23-2010, 09:33 AM
is going pretty well:) thanks.

hyperactive
09-23-2010, 11:11 AM
is going pretty well:) thanks.

Hi!
I am just working out a scarf that does not curl in stochinette stitch but does not have borders other than stochinette. It's with a little trick, but I will show it around when it worked out.

suzeeq
09-23-2010, 11:47 AM
Great, looking forward to pictures and an explanation.

hyperactive
09-23-2010, 12:22 PM
it's pretty much real simple: knitting tubular on both ends (on straight needles) so you produce something like a hem on the edges. I have made first samples and they come out great (as long as you do it on both sides). I will make an explanation and maybe video for clarification because I don't know if everybody will understand right away, but really, once you see it, it's totally easy.

Has this been done? I haven't found this anywhere and came up with it on my own but that doesn't have to say that in the history of knitting it hasn't been used. (i'd like to know a name for it. By now I call it "self-hemming knitting" in lack of a different name)

suzeeq
09-23-2010, 01:39 PM
Oh, it's called double knitting in english and can be done with two colors. That's not the same as double knit/DK yarn which is a weight of yarn slightly thinner than our worsted weight. With double knitting it comes out as stockinette on both sides - is yours like that?

hyperactive
09-23-2010, 04:03 PM
I have tried out double knitting. This here is not really, since it is worked with only one strand of yarn.

What I do is more tubular knitting on straight needles but not for the whole piece but only the sides.

I put pictures and an explanation in my blog:

http://hyperactiveknitting.blogspot.com/2010/09/hemming-on-knitting.html

I also started a thread in general knitting to start a discussion.

maybe "double knitting" is the closest term, but it is not the same.

suzeeq
09-23-2010, 04:26 PM
Double knitting can be done with only one strand and one color, that's the only way I know how to do it. The way you describe working the rows - k1, sl 1 and repeat - is how it's done. You're basically knitting the sts that were slipped on the previous row and slipping the ones that were knit. Or it can be done in ribbing or other st patterns.

The tutorials in this blog (http://golden-apples.blogspot.com/2007/04/part1-simple-double-knitting.html)show several different ways to double knit including Single Yarn Double knitting, even though her samples show two colors, and she also explains how to work in seed stitch.

hyperactive
09-23-2010, 05:20 PM
hi Suzee!
Thanks for the link. I had been to that blog before but not this article.

I had read about the knitting in the round on straight needles. That is part of what inspired me for this.

Oh, the difference I make is the knitting through the back loop for the edge to make it "fold" instead of turn.

Other than her knitting I am not making a complete tube, that is my point. But maybe I should call it "double knit hems"? I am really searching for a term to describe it.

Even if it is not new at all (I was expecting that, that's why I asked), it still is practical and looks interesting, I think.

suzeeq
09-23-2010, 06:53 PM
Yes, it's a way to make a double thick scarf and one that has stockinette on both sides. But tedious....