TrueIconoclast

01-06-2011, 11:29 PM

Hello everyone. I just answered a post with the following, but I thought that I might post this as a reference for beginning knitters like me. I spent about 8 hours trying to figure out WHY my ribbing looked more like plain old garter stitch, and what I found out applies to a lot of other even numbered stitch patterns that alternate between knit and purl within the same row.

When I was first learning ribbing, I assumed that you always started with a knit and ended with a purl. I was working a pattern that was 34 stitches in 2x2 ribbing, and although I was following the directions correctly, I realized that although it was a multiple of 2 and an even number (which is what some stitch patterns call for instead of "multiple of 2"), it was also a multiple of 4 + 2 (32 stitches + 2 stitches). For anyone who might not know, a multiple of 4 + 2 (or any multiple of X + Y) means that 4 is multiplied as many times as you want the stitch to repeat, with 2 stitches added after it. You never multiply the second number following the plus sign, unless otherwise directed. If you're a math person, you would read it like this, when Z = the desired amount of times you want to repeat the stitch

(4 x Z) + 2

Now here's the difference between even numbers that are a multiple of 2 and even numbers that are a multiple of 4 + 2:

Any multiple of 4 + 2 would cause a pattern of pairs of knit and purl, plus a 1/2 pair.So, even though both a multiple of 2 stitches and a multiple of 4 + 2 stitches are even numbers, the multiple of 4 + 2 can throw off the intended pattern of knits and purls. Here's a visual chart of multiples of 2 versus multiples of 4 + 2:

K = knit p = purl

Multiple of 2 stitches (8 stitches)

KKppKKpp or KpKpKpKp - always ends in the opposite of the starting stitch

Multiple of 4 + 2 stitches (10 stitches)

KKppKKppKK or KpKpKpKpKp - only sometimes ends in the opposite of the starting stitch

So, here's a real-life example: if a ribbing pattern calls for 10 stitches {Multiple of 4 + 2; [(4 x 2) + 2]} and directs you to *knit 2, purl 2; *repeat from, this would cause you to knit the knits and purl the purls, when ribbing calls for knitting the purls and purling the knits. And it goes vice versa when your patterns directs you to purl the purls and knit the knits.

I'm going to tell you guys the same thing that I told the user that I originally posted this to - I am sorry if this explanation was unclear or if I lost you; I very well may not posses the ability to explain this in a clear and understandable manner. I absolutely hated math and did not understand it until I started knitting, so it's more than probable that I am incapable of accurately describing what I am trying to convey.

Anyways, I sure do hope that this IS in fact understandable, and that it helps someone! Happy knitting everyone :X:

When I was first learning ribbing, I assumed that you always started with a knit and ended with a purl. I was working a pattern that was 34 stitches in 2x2 ribbing, and although I was following the directions correctly, I realized that although it was a multiple of 2 and an even number (which is what some stitch patterns call for instead of "multiple of 2"), it was also a multiple of 4 + 2 (32 stitches + 2 stitches). For anyone who might not know, a multiple of 4 + 2 (or any multiple of X + Y) means that 4 is multiplied as many times as you want the stitch to repeat, with 2 stitches added after it. You never multiply the second number following the plus sign, unless otherwise directed. If you're a math person, you would read it like this, when Z = the desired amount of times you want to repeat the stitch

(4 x Z) + 2

Now here's the difference between even numbers that are a multiple of 2 and even numbers that are a multiple of 4 + 2:

Any multiple of 4 + 2 would cause a pattern of pairs of knit and purl, plus a 1/2 pair.So, even though both a multiple of 2 stitches and a multiple of 4 + 2 stitches are even numbers, the multiple of 4 + 2 can throw off the intended pattern of knits and purls. Here's a visual chart of multiples of 2 versus multiples of 4 + 2:

K = knit p = purl

Multiple of 2 stitches (8 stitches)

KKppKKpp or KpKpKpKp - always ends in the opposite of the starting stitch

Multiple of 4 + 2 stitches (10 stitches)

KKppKKppKK or KpKpKpKpKp - only sometimes ends in the opposite of the starting stitch

So, here's a real-life example: if a ribbing pattern calls for 10 stitches {Multiple of 4 + 2; [(4 x 2) + 2]} and directs you to *knit 2, purl 2; *repeat from, this would cause you to knit the knits and purl the purls, when ribbing calls for knitting the purls and purling the knits. And it goes vice versa when your patterns directs you to purl the purls and knit the knits.

I'm going to tell you guys the same thing that I told the user that I originally posted this to - I am sorry if this explanation was unclear or if I lost you; I very well may not posses the ability to explain this in a clear and understandable manner. I absolutely hated math and did not understand it until I started knitting, so it's more than probable that I am incapable of accurately describing what I am trying to convey.

Anyways, I sure do hope that this IS in fact understandable, and that it helps someone! Happy knitting everyone :X: