PDA

View Full Version : Vee Neck Button Vest


DavidSydney63
09-27-2012, 06:22 AM
Now that the hoodie is finished (tomorrow I'm sewing it up so should have photos soon) I'm going to knit a vest.

The Tension (gauge to you Yanks) is:

16.5 sts and 22 rows to 10 cm (4 inch) over stocking st, using 5.50mm needles. Cast on 25 sts, work 34 rows stocking stitch.

So I did this and my tension square (gauge) is almost that of the pattern.

I get 16 sts and 21 rows - what do I do?? I think I need to go to the next size SMALLER needles, correct?

I love knitting - it's such a cockamamy challenge!

love and light - your Aussie friend, David

:knitting:

salmonmac
09-27-2012, 07:07 AM
Yes, you want to go to a size smaller needle. You want to fit more sts (16.5) into 4 inches than you're currently getting (16). See what the smaller needle gives you and if it's too many sts, you can adjust the number of cast on sts to give you the size vest you want.
You're close with the 5.5mm needles, only 5 extra sts over 40 inches which would be a little over an inch extra width. Don't worry about the row tension since the directions probably will have you knit for a certain length anyway.

DavidSydney63
09-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Dear Salmonmac - as ever, thanks - I'd not even thought about adjusting the number of cast on stitches - such a blindingly obvious solution now I sit back and think about it.

Light, love and blessings to you gorgeous.

Now, back to my vest.

Dx

DavidSydney63
10-03-2012, 06:12 AM
On The Back

so i now get to 'shape armeholes' and it's been symetrical until now, meaning that cast off stitches have occurred at the ends of each row to reduce sts from 95 to 85 but the next step says

then every foll alt row until 79 sts rem

but this means, surely, that it will decrease on one side only (just blindly follow the pattern yes?)

suzeeq
10-03-2012, 10:06 AM
Every 'foll alt row' means every other row. Is that for decs or do they still want you to BO? You have to BO at the beg of a row, so it has to be every row. But usually armhole shaping is binding off for the underarms, then dec a stitch at the beg and end of every RS row for a set number of rows or stitches. So I suspect that's where you are.

salmonmac
10-03-2012, 12:19 PM
Usually the decreases are still at the ends of each row, not just on one side only. (Bind offs, as Sue mentions occur at the beginning of rows and can be offset by one row.) Can you quote exactly what the directions say for shaping the armholes and the decreases thereafter?

DavidSydney63
10-03-2012, 04:53 PM
so here's the pattern exactly as printed EXCEPT I've left off numbers not related to the size I'm knitting. (I'm up to the instruction just before Shape Shoulders).

BACK

Using 4.50mm Needles, cast on 113 sts.
1st Row - K2, *P1, K1, rep from * to last st, K1.
2nd Row - K1, * P1, K1, rep from * to end.
Repeat Rib (rows 1&2) until 16 rows.
Change to 5.50mm Needles.
Work in stocking stitch until work measures 41cm from beg, ending with a purl row.

SHAPE ARMHOLES -
Cast off 9 sts at beg of next 2 rows...95 sts.
Dec one st at each end of every row until 85 sts,
then in every foll alt row until 79 sts rem. [this puzzles me]
Cont without shaping untilnwork measures 68cm from beg, ending with a purl row.

SHAPE SHOULDERS -

Cast off 8 sts at beg of next 4 rows,
then 8 sts at beg of foll 2 rows.
Cast off rem 31 sts loosely.

GrumpyGramma
10-03-2012, 05:01 PM
Dec one st at each end of every row until 85 sts,
then in every foll alt row until 79 sts rem.

Every other row (RS?) you decrease 1 at each end.

Does that make more sense?

How many times have I read the same thing the same way you did? Never mind, I don't want to know.

suzeeq
10-03-2012, 06:19 PM
Dec one st at each end of every row until 85 sts,
then in every foll alt row until 79 sts rem. [this puzzles me]

After the BOs you dec at the beg and end of every row until you have 85 sts. That would be 5 rows. Then on dec at the beg and end of every other row until there's 79 sts and you begin with the next RS row.

DavidSydney63
10-03-2012, 08:46 PM
precisely, but won't that make it asymetrical??

:-(

DavidSydney63
10-03-2012, 08:50 PM
Cast off 9 sts at beg of next 2 rows...95 sts.

(makes perfect sense, lose 18 sts)

Dec one st at each end of every row until 85 sts,

(again makes sense)

then in every foll alt row until 79 sts rem. [this puzzles me]

(I read this as on each purl row {as that's how it turned out}, hence making it wonky) -

Cont without shaping untilnwork measures 68cm from beg, ending with a purl row.

GrumpyGramma
10-03-2012, 09:56 PM
No, it won't be asymmetrical. You decrease one on each side of the vest back on every row you work decreases.

You decrease 1 at each end of every row, 1 at the beginning and 1 at the end for (Sue did the math to determine) 5 rows. Put another way, decrease 1 on the right then decrease 1 on the left side of the piece you're working on. (Left and right respective of how you are looking at it)

Then, every other row (alt rows) you decrease 1 at the beginning and 1 at the end of the row till your stitch count is 79.

HTH


ETA: Oops! I just saw your last post. You were talking about asymmetrical so I thought you were confused about dec. on each end. Sorry.

suzeeq
10-03-2012, 11:02 PM
Won't what make what assymetrical? What do you mean?

And the decs are normally done on RS rows - they're easier to do and you can see what they look like. Besides it's the RS...

After you do the decs every row for 5 rows the next instruction is to dec every other row. So since you ended the decs on the RS, work a plain purl row and begin them on the RS. That puts the last dec row 'every other row' from the next one.

DavidSydney63
10-04-2012, 12:44 AM
dear universal godesses - I thank you all for your wisdom! It's why I come here. I will now STFU and just follow the pattern.

salmonmac
10-04-2012, 03:31 AM
It is very adventurous to take on Kaffe Fassett and it sounds like you're doing marvelously. When dec on each end in alt rows winds up on purl rows, you can almost always switch it to knit rows. Dec on purl rows work but the dec seem easier on the knit rows.

DavidSydney63
10-13-2012, 07:28 PM
OK - so I'm begining to shape the shoulder but the pattern is very complex and I'd like some assistance trying to figure out what to do please. So, here's the pattern verbatim:

Dec one st at armhole edge in every row 5 times, then in every full atl row 3 times. AT SAME TIME dec one st at front edge in next row, then in every foll atl row 1 time, then in every foll 4th row until 24 sts rem.

I'm sorry - but I just don't understand this.

salmonmac
10-13-2012, 07:52 PM
I take these kind of directions and write them out or draw them out by rows. Call the next row, row 1, then decrease on the armhole edge on rows 1,2,3,4,5,7,9, and 11. Decrease at the front edge on rows 1,3,7,11, 15 etc until there are 24sts left on the needle.

suzeeq
10-13-2012, 07:55 PM
You have different decrease rates going on at each edge. The armhole edge decs a stitch every row for 5 rows, then every other row 3 times. While at the other edge you dec every other row for 2 dec rows (the next one and the 2nd one after) then it switches to every 4th row on that edge.

Dec one st at armhole edge in every row 5 times, then in every full atl row 3 times. AT SAME TIME dec one st at front edge in next row, then in every foll atl row 1 time, then in every foll 4th row until 24 sts rem.

DavidSydney63
10-13-2012, 11:21 PM
Thanks goddesses - exactly what I ended up doing. It was doing my head in.