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IslandTime
10-27-2012, 08:08 PM
What's the best cast-on method to use if you're going to be picking up and knitting from that edge?

Whatever it is, I didn't use it :grrr:

I'm just (finally!) finishing the Christmas outfit I'm making for my vintage doll, and I always try to do something new each time - this time it was to pick up and knit, for the trim. It never occurred to me of course, that I should check out the method first - who knew the edge would matter ha ha.

Just to top it off, my trim is boa - which I find impossible to see at the best of times lol, and today has been a constant downpour, dark grey all day, complete with a perfect Sherlock Holmes fog.

So - for next time - cast on...how? (think I should make a note of it :)

Thanks!

suzeeq
10-27-2012, 08:12 PM
I like the knit CO for an edge to pick up in - it's easy because it's a little loose, but once you pick up it tightens up. Backward loop would be the next one, but it's tricky to knit into if it's more than just a few stitches, or only CO about 2/3 what you need and use the extra yarn between stitches to make up the ones you need.

GrumpyGramma
10-27-2012, 08:31 PM
I've used a provisional cast on when I know I'm going to want those stitches live, later, but for doll clothes that might be more trouble than it's worth for a few stitches. I've also knitted a couple rows with waste yarn as is done for the thumb of a mitten. I'm not sure either of these would suit your needs, but just in case.

I look forward to seeing the new outfit!

Jan in CA
10-27-2012, 09:24 PM
I always use a provisional cast on. I use this method.
http://www.knittinghelp.com/video/play/provisional-crochet-cast-on

salmonmac
10-28-2012, 05:24 AM
It also depends a bit on the look that you want for the trim. If you want a seamless transition to the trim, the provisioal cast on is the way to go. If you want more of a distinction between the knit piece and the edging, then picking up sts from a more conventional cast on, like the knit cast on works better.

IslandTime
10-28-2012, 12:01 PM
I've used a provisional cast on when I know I'm going to want those stitches live, later, but for doll clothes that might be more trouble than it's worth for a few stitches. I've also knitted a couple rows with waste yarn as is done for the thumb of a mitten. I'm not sure either of these would suit your needs, but just in case.

I look forward to seeing the new outfit!


:whoosh: the waste yarn and mitten thumbs ??? :?? - well that's just one more thing for me to check out in my knitting adventures, isn't it!

Thanks, I'm hoping to finish it and post the pic's today :woot: .

IslandTime
10-28-2012, 12:03 PM
It also depends a bit on the look that you want for the trim. If you want a seamless transition to the trim, the provisioal cast on is the way to go. If you want more of a distinction between the knit piece and the edging, then picking up sts from a more conventional cast on, like the knit cast on works better.


I think the one I do is the knit cast on. Thanks for this tip, it's an important one for sure!

IslandTime
10-28-2012, 12:12 PM
After I finish this outfit, my next project will be to check out the cast-ons you all have suggested. I'm going to start making samples of some of the things I keep having to look up - I'm always wasting time trying to remember where I either stashed them or found the best tips and videos - and I think I'll even video them myself, so I'd have everything in one place. How good would that be! haha can I ever be THAT organized???!!!

Thanks, everyone, for your help. :hug:

Daylilydayzed
10-28-2012, 01:53 PM
I've used a provisional cast on when I know I'm going to want those stitches live, later, but for doll clothes that might be more trouble than it's worth for a few stitches. I've also knitted a couple rows with waste yarn as is done for the thumb of a mitten. I'm not sure either of these would suit your needs, but just in case.

I look forward to seeing the new outfit!
GrumpyGramma
How do you use the waste yarn for the mitten thumb? Do you use a gusseted thumb when knitting mittens? I have been knitting some mittens and I don't like the holes I am getting around the thumb once I resume knitting after separating the thumb stitches onto a holder for later finishing.

GrumpyGramma
10-28-2012, 02:18 PM
GrumpyGramma
How do you use the waste yarn for the mitten thumb? Do you use a gusseted thumb when knitting mittens? I have been knitting some mittens and I don't like the holes I am getting around the thumb once I resume knitting after separating the thumb stitches onto a holder for later finishing.

I do things upside down and backwards sometimes. The mittens I just finished I worked from the fingers up, using a cast on used for a sock toe so there was no Kitchener stitching to do. When I got to the gusseted thumb, I did cast on (I used the provisional cast on Jan linked to) and work a row back to my mitten yarn with waste yarn, the number of stitches I needed for the thumb and then decreased. Upside down and backwards to the norm. Those stitches were then live for working the thumb much as anyone would. I find that going from fingers up seems to help lessen the holes. It doesn't do away with the holes completely. Two rows of stockinette is of course used for the afterthought thumb or for convertible mittens as a holder for stitches. Have you seen Kelley's Mitten Class videos? They have some really helpful hints IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ghFRvbOIw&feature=relmfu

This last time I twisted a number of sts when I worked them because it allowed me to work the extra yarn from some of the larger, looser sts into the tighter ones. I don't know if that makes sense or not. I'm forever on the lookout for ways to improve the thumb on mittens.

suzeeq
10-28-2012, 02:29 PM
If your pattern has you CO sts to close the gap where you put the thumb sts on hold, then you pick up in the CO sts, you can pick up an extra stitch before and after then dec them on the next round to help close up the holes. If there's still a little bit of gap, use the tail to close it up.