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Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 02:29 PM
I'm getting ready to start a sweater in the round. Do I need to knit the gauge swatch in the round too? I already did one in the round before I got the pattern and it's not right so I have to do another one on bigger needles. There are just so many more stitches to knit if I do it in the round and I'm lazy.... and a slow knitter...... but I also want it to fit.
What would you do?

mojo11
01-18-2013, 02:38 PM
I'm getting ready to start a sweater in the round. Do I need to knit the gauge swatch in the round too? I already did one in the round before I got the pattern and it's not right so I have to do another one on bigger needles. There are just so many more stitches to knit if I do it in the round and I'm lazy.... and a slow knitter...... but I also want it to fit.
What would you do?

I wouldn't think it'd make any difference in the gauge if you knit it in the round... 4 inches is 4 inches. But it'd sure be easier to measure if it's flat. If I were doing it, I'd knit a 4x4 flat and say "color me done".

GrumpyGramma
01-18-2013, 02:42 PM
I wouldn't think it'd make any difference in the gauge if you knit it in the round... 4 inches is 4 inches. But it'd sure be easier to measure if it's flat. If I were doing it, I'd knit a 4x4 flat and say "color me done".

Flat and knitting in the round can produce different gauges. I'd knit a gauge swatch.

suzeeq
01-18-2013, 02:43 PM
The reason to knit a swatch in the round is because some people purl looser or tighter than they knit, so a flat swatch may not have the same gauge. You can fake an in the round swatch knitting flat though.

CO about 10 more sts than needed for the gauge, knit the first row, then slide the sts back to the beginning of the needle. Keeping the yarn loose across the back, knit another round. Repeat. That way you mimic knitting in the round, but can lay it flat to measure easier. The edge stitches will be very loose, so don't include them, just the stitches in the middle.

mojo11
01-18-2013, 02:46 PM
Flat and knitting in the round can produce different gauges. I'd knit a gauge swatch.

Really? I've never noticed a difference in them. But maybe that explains a few things. :mrgreen: But you been doing this a lot longer than I have, so I defer.

mojo11
01-18-2013, 02:48 PM
The reason to knit a swatch in the round is because some people purl looser or tighter than they knit, so a flat swatch may not have the same gauge. You can fake an in the round swatch knitting flat though.

CO about 10 more sts than needed for the gauge, knit the first row, then slide the sts back to the beginning of the needle. Keeping the yarn loose across the back, knit another round. Repeat. That way you mimic knitting in the round, but can lay it flat to measure easier. The edge stitches will be very loose, so don't include them, just the stitches in the middle.

Sounds kinda like I-cord without the join... or I guess without pulling the join tight.

And not on DPNs.

And not round.

Okay, maybe it doesn't sound so much like I-cord.

Clever little hack though!

GrumpyGramma
01-18-2013, 02:48 PM
How to Knit a Circular Gauge Swatch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivCho4KvB3g)

I have a really hard time locating these videos. Took a bit but I found it.

suzeeq
01-18-2013, 02:48 PM
They may produce different gauges for some people, but not other people. I can sometimes see a difference on a raglan cardigan where the yoke was knit flat, then I knit the sleeves in the round. Usually going up a needle size for the circular knitting will help. But most of the time it's not obvious to me, our individual gauge can change from day to day sometimes.

mojo11
01-18-2013, 02:54 PM
They may produce different gauges for some people, but not other people. I can sometimes see a difference on a raglan cardigan where the yoke was knit flat, then I knit the sleeves in the round. Usually going up a needle size for the circular knitting will help. But most of the time it's not obvious to me, our individual gauge can change from day to day sometimes.

Well it also helps if you don't get cross-eyed trying to count the stitches. Which can sometimes be a challenge for me. Which is (one reason) why I almost never knit on anything smaller than an 8 (the main reason being that I'd like to finish in this decade).

Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 03:04 PM
The reason to knit a swatch in the round is because some people purl looser or tighter than they knit, so a flat swatch may not have the same gauge. You can fake an in the round swatch knitting flat though.

CO about 10 more sts than needed for the gauge, knit the first row, then slide the sts back to the beginning of the needle. Keeping the yarn loose across the back, knit another round. Repeat. That way you mimic knitting in the round, but can lay it flat to measure easier. The edge stitches will be very loose, so don't include them, just the stitches in the middle.

That seems easier than going all the way around. That was shown in the video GrumpyGramma linked to. Thanks for that. I think that I do purl looser than I knit since I switched over to continental knitting and Norwegian purling.

Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 03:07 PM
I wouldn't think it'd make any difference in the gauge if you knit it in the round... 4 inches is 4 inches. But it'd sure be easier to measure if it's flat. If I were doing it, I'd knit a 4x4 flat and say "color me done".

That would have been my first choice.

You know, you can flatten a piece of circular knitting to measure it.....:p

suzeeq
01-18-2013, 03:11 PM
It's exactly like doing giant I cord without making the yarn tight to pull the edges together. There's also another tutorial (http://techknitting.blogspot.com/2011/02/circular-swatches-knit-flat-back-and.html) on the Techknitter site; she says 2 needles but you can use a circ.

Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 03:29 PM
I just watched the I-cord video. I had no idea what you were talking about before. Now I know what one is! I love this site!

mojo11
01-18-2013, 04:22 PM
I just watched the I-cord video. I had no idea what you were talking about before. Now I know what one is! I love this site!

Well I wouldn't recommend trying to make I-cord that large. Then again, I'd never have thought anyone would do a 62-stitch cable twist (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111773) either.

GrumpyGramma
01-18-2013, 05:01 PM
Another recommendation I've come across: Knit the sleeves first as gauge is less critical to fit there and if you work from the cuff you can measure the actual knitting as you go up. FWIW....or not. I've also seen: Knit the hat first.

Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 05:08 PM
Another recommendation I've come across: Knit the sleeves first as gauge is less critical to fit there and if you work from the cuff you can measure the actual knitting as you go up. FWIW....or not. I've also seen: Knit the hat first.

Ah the old "knit the hat first".
I've actually started the swatch using the bring the yarn along the back loosely method (I'm working from home today :D)
I can't do the sleeves first because it's a top down raglan, but that's a really good suggestion.

Lizars1735
01-18-2013, 05:09 PM
Well I wouldn't recommend trying to make I-cord that large. Then again, I'd never have thought anyone would do a 62-stitch cable twist (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111773) either.

I saw that post, and I'd like to see the cable that results from that.

GrumpyGramma
01-18-2013, 05:13 PM
Depending on the pattern, top-down raglan gauge might not be as critical since you can try it on and say, enough already, and go on to the next part. Or, I guess I should do a few more rows.

mojo11
01-18-2013, 05:20 PM
I saw that post, and I'd like to see the cable that results from that.

Me too!

Lizars1735
01-19-2013, 02:35 PM
Depending on the pattern, top-down raglan gauge might not be as critical since you can try it on and say, enough already, and go on to the next part. Or, I guess I should do a few more rows.

A good point, but when I get to the end I need to have the right number of stitches for the edging. That would mean knitting math if I make changes. Fortunately, after blocking my swatch I got almost the right gauge. The important one, number of stitches, was right on. It's just the rows that is different, and that won't matter much with this type of pattern since it can be tried on as I go.