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OHmama
03-15-2013, 08:36 PM
I'd never heard of this and came across it at the wool shop I was at today. I may have some in my stash,not sure. Anyway,do I need to be concerned about picking this up and/or using it while pregnant?What is it treated with?I touched it at the wool shop..would I need to wash the baby hat I made that was in the box with my yarns??I'm just worried because it's obviously a pesticide if it's mothproof...any thoughts?I'm thinking of getting rid of one yarn that I can't remember what it is..since I don't know if it's mothproof(even though it's pretty).

Antares
03-15-2013, 08:44 PM
Before you start either avoiding and/or getting rid of yarn left and right, it would be helpful to know more about it. Like, what is the name of the yarn? Who makes it? And exactly how is it made "mothproof"?

The assumption that it has pesticide all over it may or may not be valid (unless you specifically saw that on the label). But we can't help you much (or even research it) without knowing some basic information.

GrumpyGramma
03-15-2013, 08:50 PM
I found this link (http://knitting.about.com/od/yarn/f/mothproof.htm). Since babies put everything in their mouths, I think I'd be concerned also. All I can suggest is to learn all you can and make an informed decision, or do what you can to avoid the mothproofed yarn. Lead paint was outlawed because babies and young children ingest it; maybe someday Mitin FF will be too.

From that site:



But if the chemical kills moths, what can it do to humans? Wells said Mitin FF is relatively harmless if not ingested, and the federal government agrees. Mitin FF has been used as a pesticide in the United States since 1948 and is used exclusively by the textile industry for mothproofing wool. Laboratory tests have found the chemical to be "low to moderately toxic" and to have "low mammalian toxicity."

OHmama
03-15-2013, 09:12 PM
That's the info I found too.I contacted Brown Sheep and they said it's safe.It would just be one yarn(that I don't like)and one that I think is really pretty but haven't used it in 4-5 years.I don't think I have any mothproof yarn but anything I make the baby,I will probably wash anyway...all cotton so far though..in case it has touched the other yarn which probably isn't even mothproof lol

I asked originally because I'd never even heard of this and the lady at the wool shop didn't really know anything about it either.

GrumpyGramma
03-15-2013, 09:40 PM
I think what bothers me most about things like mothproof yarn is that in general the decision was made that we don't even need to know about these things. I was talking to my sister the other day about stuff in food. Soy was the item under discussion, I said I use soy but I like to do it on purpose. I see no reason for soy in breads, pancake mix, etc. We want to know what's in the things we use and not have to get magnifying glasses to read the fine print or go on quests to discover hidden secrets. We wisely avoided bringing GMOs into the conversation. I'm wondering if mothproof yarn has to be marked as such or is most wool yarn mothproof anyhow?

OHmama
03-15-2013, 09:54 PM
I think what bothers me most about things like mothproof yarn is that in general the decision was made that we don't even need to know about these things. I was talking to my sister the other day about stuff in food. Soy was the item under discussion, I said I use soy but I like to do it on purpose. I see no reason for soy in breads, pancake mix, etc. We want to know what's in the things we use and not have to get magnifying glasses to read the fine print or go on quests to discover hidden secrets. We wisely avoided bringing GMOs into the conversation. I'm wondering if mothproof yarn has to be marked as such or is most wool yarn mothproof anyhow?

Good question...I hear ya on labeling!A big one I've been finding in things is artificial sweeteners and I'm like 'why!?' why would it be in the bread I bought?Or whatever it was I found it in the other day...

I'm thinking that since I probably don't even have any mothproof yarn,washing the baby items I've made will be sufficient.:thumbsup:

GrumpyGramma
03-15-2013, 10:31 PM
Yeah, and you'd wash them anyhow, I'm sure. I bought frozen Chinese stuff and tasted it and had to read the label: sucralose. Sucralose tastes nasty and does horrid things to my digestive system. I read labels much more carefully anymore but some are almost impossible for me to read at all.

Jan in CA
03-16-2013, 01:08 AM
I looked it up and personally I'd stay away from it now. Definitely I would want to stay away if i was pregnant. This is just one link of many.
http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/3097fact.pdf

Sucralose (splenda) doesn't bother me and I use it but everyone has different tolerances and tastes.

OHmama
03-16-2013, 12:55 PM
I'm not going to worry about touching it yesterday,I didn't hold it for hours or anything lol but I will wash anything I make that may have come in contact with my questionable yarn(I cannot remember what it is).I'll try not to throw everything in that tote away...

Jan in CA
03-16-2013, 01:39 PM
It should day on it if it's mothproof so you'll know. I'm sure just touching it isn't going to be a problem since you wash your hands and I doubt the yarns touching it for a little while is a problem. I would be worried about the actual yarn.

OHmama
03-16-2013, 02:14 PM
That's the thing,there's one in my tote of yarns that I don't know what it is..I bought it several years ago and no longer have the label.Oh well,if I can't figure out what it is,I'll just get rid of it!I think it's silly to put pesticides on yarn!

Jan in CA
03-16-2013, 06:37 PM
Agreed. :thumbsup:

fatoldladyinpjs
03-18-2013, 09:41 AM
Lamb's Pride Bulky is the one I used that is mothproofed. When you think about it though, children's sleepwear is required to be treated with a flame retardant chemical. No one really thinks about that.

Soy is in everything these days, which is why I stopped using margarine. Read the labels. I don't want to be dictated to by someone who thinks they know what I should and shouldn't eat. With the food and the moth proofed yarn, it would have been nice to be consulted first or given an alternative.

OHmama
03-18-2013, 04:19 PM
I'm wondering too,like Jan said,if most wools are mothproofed and we just aren't told about it. Brown Sheep said that both their LP and Superwash are mothproof and I do own both of these.I still have the label for the superwash and don't remember seeing anything about it...I really just want to throw everything away..newly knit baby hat and all :(

As for the flame retardant pj's,I just buy the ones without..that say they need to be snug fitting..but I guess flame retardants are on lots of things..couches,car seats,a lot of things.

fatoldladyinpjs
03-18-2013, 09:52 PM
And think about it. Moths come out in the spring/summer. Sweaters are put away then. What is the chance of a moth eating your sweater? Pretty slim. This is why girls 50 years ago had hope chests to store things like lace tablecloths before they got married. They were made of cedar, which is a natural moth repellent. Lane hope chests used to be advertised in all the bridal magazines in the 1970's, but they're not in fashion anymore.

OHmama
03-19-2013, 12:16 PM
OK Brown sheep said that even if it wasn't on their label in 2008,it was still mothproofed. Here is the exact message" The current labels do say "Permanently mothproofed," but that may not have been on the label back in 2008. I'll ask the mill about that, too! However, even if the label does not say they are, they have been mothproofed. Otherwise, our mill would be a mass of moths from all the wool we have working all the time!"

GrumpyGramma
03-19-2013, 01:23 PM
Otherwise, our mill would be a mass of moths from all the wool we have working all the time!"

That's why I wondered if all wool has been mothproofed.

Jan in CA
03-19-2013, 01:29 PM
This all makes more sense now. I'm hiking as long as a garment is washed it's probably fine. Still a little freaky though.