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MissMurder
08-18-2013, 11:34 AM
I'm just wondering if there is ANY point at all in blocking a 100% Organic Cotton that is both machine washer and dryer friendly? I want to make a bra I found but the person says to block the cotton yarn. Is there any point in doing this since a bra is something that has to be washed?

Jan in CA
08-18-2013, 01:47 PM
A bra? As in something you wear under clothing like a regular bra? If that's the case I probably wouldn't block it unless you needed to smooth the fabric.

GrumpyGramma
08-18-2013, 01:57 PM
Can you link to the pattern? I'm with Jan on the blocking.

MissMurder
08-18-2013, 03:36 PM
A bra? As in something you wear under clothing like a regular bra? If that's the case I probably wouldn't block it unless you needed to smooth the fabric.

Yes ma'am that's correct... A bra. I'm very confused because it's cotton and a bra.. i'll try finding the direct link, i know i found it on Knitty.com and it's called 1930.

MissMurder
08-18-2013, 03:45 PM
Can you link to the pattern? I'm with Jan on the blocking.

knitty.com/ISSUEsummer04/PATT1930.html

GrumpyGramma
08-18-2013, 04:41 PM
1930 (http://knitty.com/ISSUEsummer04/PATT1930.html)
Now I see it I remember coming across it before. I see no point in blocking it if you are going to wear it since it will machine wash and dry. If you want a photo shoot to show it to best advantage, maybe.

justplaincharlotte
08-18-2013, 08:53 PM
Oh, now that is so cool!:cool:

I'd agree with GG & Jan, block only for a photo. If you're going to wear it, I'd recommend a different type of bias tape than satin, which may not wash well. But your mileage may vary!

salmonmac
08-19-2013, 05:53 AM
Gosh, I'm a big fan of blocking (a blockhead?). It helps line up the sts and tells them where you'd like them to be. If you're going to take the time to knit this very pretty set, then why not do the finishing step?

MissMurder
08-19-2013, 09:20 AM
Thank you for all who helped. I don't think I'll block it though since i've never blocked anything before, don't want to screw it up and the only person who will see it in it's entirety will be my husband... I still don't know where to find Bias tape of any kind, I searched Joann's but that was a no. Does anybody have any ideas where to get it? Oh and also does anyone know where to buy Underwires for a DD?

MissMurder
08-19-2013, 09:27 AM
Gosh, I'm a big fan of blocking (a blockhead?). It helps line up the sts and tells them where you'd like them to be. If you're going to take the time to knit this very pretty set, then why not do the finishing step?

Wouldn't it be pointless to block since it's washable? Having never blocked before, I would think it would loose the shape you put it in once you washed it and since I intend to wear it it seems doubly pointless, to me at least since i'll wash and re wash. I'm not saying blocking is pointless itself, just seems that was for this.

GrumpyGramma
08-19-2013, 11:32 AM
Thank you for all who helped. I don't think I'll block it though since i've never blocked anything before, don't want to screw it up and the only person who will see it in it's entirety will be my husband... I still don't know where to find Bias tape of any kind, I searched Joann's but that was a no. Does anybody have any ideas where to get it? Oh and also does anyone know where to buy Underwires for a DD?

Blocking a cotton knit isn't a permanent thing so if you blocked it and it wasn't just the way it should be, wet it and dry it again.

JoAnn should have bias tape. It's used for lots of things in sewing. Did you ask someone? If you're unfamiliar with the stuff you probably wouldn't know to look over in the section where they have threads, there should be a display with packages of the stuff.

http://www.joann.com/search/_bias%20tape/

MissMurder
08-19-2013, 01:28 PM
Blocking a cotton knit isn't a permanent thing so if you blocked it and it wasn't just the way it should be, wet it and dry it again.

JoAnn should have bias tape. It's used for lots of things in sewing. Did you ask someone? If you're unfamiliar with the stuff you probably wouldn't know to look over in the section where they have threads, there should be a display with packages of the stuff.

http://www.joann.com/search/_bias%20tape/

I am pretty familiar with sewing so I checked near threads and ribbons first, but couldn't find it. I have asked but the people there don't seem to know what bias tape is. Guess I'll have to find a Michael's or AC Moore..

GrumpyGramma
08-19-2013, 01:35 PM
That's just bizarre IMO. Maybe they'd know what hem facing is.

nannaknits
08-19-2013, 05:18 PM
I shop in Joann's a lot. I have even shopped in Joann's in different states. They are all laid out similar and they carry the same notions. You will find bias tape sold in packages over by the thread and zippers. It's not with the lace and ribbons. If you ask someone at the cutting table they could point you in the right direction. Another employee in a different part of the store may not know the location of the bias tape.

MissMurder
08-19-2013, 08:52 PM
I shop in Joann's a lot. I have even shopped in Joann's in different states. They are all laid out similar and they carry the same notions. You will find bias tape sold in packages over by the thread and zippers. It's not with the lace and ribbons. If you ask someone at the cutting table they could point you in the right direction. Another employee in a different part of the store may not know the location of the bias tape.

I just came back from Joann's and I have looked in that section already. That's where I asked someone the first time was the cutting table and the woman seem absolutely confused as to what hem facing or bias tape is as if i made the names out of nowhere. Thank you Nana.

justplaincharlotte
08-19-2013, 10:40 PM
Thank you for all who helped. I don't think I'll block it though since i've never blocked anything before, don't want to screw it up and the only person who will see it in it's entirety will be my husband... I still don't know where to find Bias tape of any kind, I searched Joann's but that was a no. Does anybody have any ideas where to get it? Oh and also does anyone know where to buy Underwires for a DD?

I'd check your local fabric/sewing store for bias tape and underwires. The store chain I have down here in MS is Hancock Fabrics. They carry darn near everything.:p And I'd also recommend adding short rows to the cups. Being a DD myself, the pattern as shown in the photo might cover 1/4 of what I need it to cover. ;)

Happy knitting!

GrumpyGramma
08-19-2013, 11:46 PM
Ah, Charlotte, I sympathize. I looked at the pattern the first time I saw it, laughed and moved on. Translating to DDD wasn't gonna happen. It's a lovely set, I'd love to be able to wear something like that.

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 08:33 AM
I'd check your local fabric/sewing store for bias tape and underwires. The store chain I have down here in MS is Hancock Fabrics. They carry darn near everything.:p And I'd also recommend adding short rows to the cups. Being a DD myself, the pattern as shown in the photo might cover 1/4 of what I need it to cover. ;)

Happy knitting!

Oh no this bra wasn't going to be for me, I was going to make it for my sister and she's not nearly big in the chest like I am. I'll try Local thank you very much :)

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 08:39 AM
Ah, Charlotte, I sympathize. I looked at the pattern the first time I saw it, laughed and moved on. Translating to DDD wasn't gonna happen. It's a lovely set, I'd love to be able to wear something like that.

Ok so maybe you can answer me this GG, are a DD and E the same or no? I have been told I'm an E very recently and also a DD and both fit the same on me, so is there a difference?

GrumpyGramma
08-20-2013, 10:39 AM
Ok so maybe you can answer me this GG, are a DD and E the same or no? I have been told I'm an E very recently and also a DD and both fit the same on me, so is there a difference?
After a point IMO it's all super industrial strength support structure. I think that's how it works. E = DD, F = DDD and OMG do I feel sorry for anyone who might need larger than that comes next.

Since it's a gift, I think I might try blocking it just to give it that brand new gift look. Things always look so nice brand new and fresh out of the package.

justplaincharlotte
08-20-2013, 01:34 PM
Oh no this bra wasn't going to be for me, I was going to make it for my sister and she's not nearly big in the chest like I am. I'll try Local thank you very much :)

DH came up with an awesome idea for underwires if some aren't readily available locally - take them from an existing bra! Hmmm, maybe from a clearance special from WalMart, if this is a surprise gift for your sister. And how nice that DH is smart enoughg to think of that. I think he's a keeper! ;)

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 10:06 PM
After a point IMO it's all super industrial strength support structure. I think that's how it works. E = DD, F = DDD and OMG do I feel sorry for anyone who might need larger than that comes next.

Since it's a gift, I think I might try blocking it just to give it that brand new gift look. Things always look so nice brand new and fresh out of the package.

LOL!! Ok thank you. I would say it would be hell finding a bra to fit larger sizes but with fake chests I won't.

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 10:19 PM
DH came up with an awesome idea for underwires if some aren't readily available locally - take them from an existing bra! Hmmm, maybe from a clearance special from WalMart, if this is a surprise gift for your sister. And how nice that DH is smart enoughg to think of that. I think he's a keeper! ;)

Oh well that's a great idea, I certainly wouldn't have thought of that on my own. I feel soooo incredibly stupid for asking this, but who is DH?... I haven't been around that long and about the only people who have helped me are GG, salmonmac, Jan from CA, and you.

GrumpyGramma
08-20-2013, 10:28 PM
DH means Dear, Darling, or depending on you mood pick another d word, Husband. You'll see it a lot here. Change the H to another letter(s) and you have Daughter or Son, Granddaughter or Grandson, or......

ETA :rofl: I forgot why I came back to this thread just now. I looked up the yarn used in the pattern and it's machine wash/dry flat. In that case blocking would indeed be essential.

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 10:36 PM
DH means Dear, Darling, or depending on you mood pick another d word, Husband. You'll see it a lot here. Change the H to another letter(s) and you have Daughter or Son, Granddaughter or Grandson, or......

ETA :rofl: I forgot why I came back to this thread just now. I looked up the yarn used in the pattern and it's machine wash/dry flat. In that case blocking would indeed be essential.

Oh, ok thank you for both the explainations. As for the yarn I wasn't planning on using the same one... so in saying that, does it still matter? or only if it's a flat dry yarn?

MissMurder
08-20-2013, 10:51 PM
DH came up with an awesome idea for underwires if some aren't readily available locally - take them from an existing bra! Hmmm, maybe from a clearance special from WalMart, if this is a surprise gift for your sister. And how nice that DH is smart enoughg to think of that. I think he's a keeper! ;)

I have to ask her what her size is since she lives in Cali and I live in Maine I have no way to casually look in her drawer so see... so I don't think I can make it a surprise. I have another bra I want to make for myself but stupid me, I forgot to write where I found it!!

GrumpyGramma
08-21-2013, 12:22 AM
Oh, ok thank you for both the explainations. As for the yarn I wasn't planning on using the same one... so in saying that, does it still matter? or only if it's a flat dry yarn?

People who block their knitting routinely would block it, I think. As you said (I think) that your yarn will go in the dryer then I'd say it's a personal call. For presentation as a gift, blocking would probably give it a nice finishing touch. If you block the cups you must tell how you do it! :zombie: If I made one for me I'd have to line it with the carbon fiber they use for jets. :hmm:

MissMurder
08-21-2013, 10:16 AM
People who block their knitting routinely would block it, I think. As you said (I think) that your yarn will go in the dryer then I'd say it's a personal call. For presentation as a gift, blocking would probably give it a nice finishing touch. If you block the cups you must tell how you do it! :zombie: If I made one for me I'd have to line it with the carbon fiber they use for jets. :hmm:

Ok then I'll try blocking it when I'm done and tell how it turns out, cross your fingers I don't screw this up! You could always go and find that, it shouldn't be too difficult to find :P

justplaincharlotte
08-21-2013, 11:58 AM
If I made one for me I'd have to line it with the carbon fiber they use for jets. :hmm:

GG, that's a great one - I just snorted my coffee! :roflhard:

GrumpyGramma
08-21-2013, 01:49 PM
GG, that's a great one - I just snorted my coffee! :roflhard:

Yeah? Well, it's easy for you to laugh, it's only funny because it's true! I'm sorry you understand.

MissMurder
08-22-2013, 10:52 AM
Ok, could somebody PLEASE tell me what "work even" means?

justplaincharlotte
08-22-2013, 01:10 PM
Ok, could somebody PLEASE tell me what "work even" means?

It means keep working your pattern stitch ( here, I believe it's stockinette) over the number of stitches in your row, without any shaping. Typically it's for a certain length, but it's also seen as a number of rows. Examples:

Work even in stockinette for 4".
If you have 20 stitches in your row, work stockinette over 20 stitches until you have 4" of stockinette from where you started.
Work even in pattern stitch for 20 rows.
If you have 20 stitches across your row in your pattern stitch, work 20 rows of it.