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WynnieG
02-13-2006, 10:51 AM
A new Aspartame study (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/business/yourmoney/12sweet.html?pagewanted=1&incamp=article_popular) discussed in a recent Times article was a pretty disturbing read.

I know that at some point in my life I've consumed this stuff, and to know that it turns to formaldehyde in your system -- !!! Ugh. I'm never buying chewing gum or breath mints again. Thank goodness I was never a fan of diet soda.

The thing that gets me is that this additive is in soooo many items we don't even think about. Toothpaste. Chewing Gum. Muffin mixes. Kid's lunch box drinks.

I sometimes wonder if the FDA is getting paid off to let these chemicals into the food market, so that the pharmaceutical lobby will have a disease to treat (and charge us for a 'branded' medication) down the line. I wouldn't put it past them.

Jaxhil
02-13-2006, 03:14 PM
I quit drinking it 7 yrs ago, when I was pregnant with my second DS-my DMIL told me about the dangers and I haven't touched the stuff since!

It was nasty anyway, lol

Vendie
02-13-2006, 05:51 PM
I would rather give up pop all together than drink diet pops. yuck.

It's interesting to note tho that formaldehyde is one of the by-products of alcohol metabolism. But of course, you'd have to be a chronic heavy drinker to really deal with the effects of that.

Julie
02-13-2006, 06:29 PM
I can't stomach the taste of artificial sweeteners...good thing because they're so skeeeeery. :shock:

Darhain
02-13-2006, 07:21 PM
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I sometimes wonder if the FDA is getting paid off to let these chemicals into the food market, so that the pharmaceutical lobby will have a disease to treat (and charge us for a 'branded' medication) down the line. I wouldn't put it past them.

Well, perhaps not by the pharm companies (though I wouldn't doubt it), but by the chemical companies that are producing these things, yep. Lobbyists make big money, sister, and for a reason. :(

If it ain't natural, I don't want it. Hell, even if it is natural, sometimes I don't want it (sugar, anyone?) ... it's so sad that we've gotten so far away from the nutritious way in which we were intended to fortify our bodies.

knittingachiever
02-13-2006, 08:06 PM
There are so many things out there that are worse for our health than chemical additives. We'll all die from exposure to the chemicals spilling out our car exhausts long before NutraSweet could hurt us.

I don't trust government agencies further than I can throw them, but generally the science that the FDA and the USDA bases their decisions on is pretty sound.

Jan in CA
02-13-2006, 08:07 PM
Well, I happen to LIKE Diet Coke and I only drink maybe 3 a week, not the 5 twenty ouncers a day they did the test on so I think I"ll survive. I don't mind drinks with splenda though so if that was an option in my DC I'd go for it.

knittingachiever
02-13-2006, 08:08 PM
Well, I happen to LIKE Diet Coke and I only drink maybe 3 a week, not the 5 twenty ouncers a day they did the test on so I think I"ll survive. I don't mind drinks with splenda though so if that was an option in my DC I'd go for it.
http://photos11.flickr.com/12692670_3c0ef886f4_m.jpg

Jan in CA
02-13-2006, 08:12 PM
Well, I happen to LIKE Diet Coke and I only drink maybe 3 a week, not the 5 twenty ouncers a day they did the test on so I think I"ll survive. I don't mind drinks with splenda though so if that was an option in my DC I'd go for it.
http://photos11.flickr.com/12692670_3c0ef886f4_m.jpg

Well there you go! I wonder if I'm drinking it now and didn't know.. :thinking:

JENinIA
02-13-2006, 09:22 PM
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Well there you go! I wonder if I'm drinking it now and didn't know.. :thinking:[/quote]

I think the DC with Splenda is the DC Zero - it says Splenda on the can or whatever- or at least it did last time I looked. They also have the reg DC which is the aspartame.

Vendie
02-13-2006, 09:41 PM
I sometimes wonder if the FDA is getting paid off to let these chemicals into the food market, so that the pharmaceutical lobby will have a disease to treat (and charge us for a 'branded' medication) down the line. I wouldn't put it past them.


Aaaack my eyes are hurting and I want to argue with you Wynnie, but I like you so I'm going to bite my tongue. But I have to warn you - I work for the pharma industry. :twisted: :D

ChroniclesofYarnia
02-13-2006, 10:51 PM
That diet coke with splenda doesn't taster like Diet Coke, it tastes like regular coke. blech.

I've switched mostly to carbonated water with juice in it or stuff I can grab at the whole foods store. That high fructose corn syrup in regular soft drinks stinks, too.

tea, anyone?

WynnieG
02-13-2006, 11:05 PM
I sometimes wonder if the FDA is getting paid off to let these chemicals into the food market, so that the pharmaceutical lobby will have a disease to treat (and charge us for a 'branded' medication) down the line. I wouldn't put it past them.


Aaaack my eyes are hurting and I want to argue with you Wynnie, but I like you so I'm going to bite my tongue. But I have to warn you - I work for the pharma industry. :twisted: :D

No worries, FG - it wasn't meant as a personal thing. I have a friend who works for the FDA, and we get into it too. :lol:

KristiMetz
02-13-2006, 11:09 PM
[quote="WynnieGI sometimes wonder if the FDA is getting paid off to let these chemicals into the food market, so that the pharmaceutical lobby will have a disease to treat (and charge us for a 'branded' medication) down the line. I wouldn't put it past them.[/quote]

Incompetence usually prevents complex conspiracies. :thumbsup:

Lana
02-14-2006, 12:11 AM
Incompetence usually prevents complex conspiracies. :thumbsup:

A-MEN!

Angelia
02-14-2006, 09:35 AM
:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard:

I drink lots of diet bevvies...diet Pepsi is my favorite.

I do have a question, though; what does "turning into formaldehyde in your system" mean? It sounds bad, yes, but what does that really mean from a physiological standpoint? :??

sogrammatical
02-14-2006, 09:38 AM
Personally, I stay away from Splenda too because I figure it's only a matter of time before they discover that it's as harmful as the other sugar substitutes.

Angelia
02-14-2006, 10:01 AM
I can't do large amounts of real sugar b/c it makes me woosy, and I really don't like my food super sweet. I get really irritated when I go shopping for things, see "Low Sugar," get all excited at the prospect of a less sweet food, and then discover that all the mfr has done is add fake sugar! Fruit-on-the-bottom yogurt is a particularly troublesome item to buy. I don't want all that sugar in the real-sugar kind, but I don't want the fake stuff either. Gah! :evil: Am I the only one who actually wants some foods to be less sweet?

MrsBear87
02-14-2006, 12:34 PM
Oh, Gawd! Something else to eliminate from our diets.

Let's see what not to eat -

Meat/chicken for too many reasons to go into
Fish full of mercury
Water (don't be fooled by bottled water, it's not what you think it is)
All sugar
Vegetables/Fruits (poisons in fertilizer, or migrant worker humanitarian issues)
Bread/ starches (Carbs are bad, we've been warned)
Fats

And this could easily reverse the next time the food pyramid is reorganized.

I think if I eat things in moderation, I'll be okay. We all die of something, right? Life without chocolate (sugared or sweetened) would be a sad life.

knittingachiever
02-14-2006, 07:31 PM
I do have a question, though; what does "turning into formaldehyde in your system" mean? It sounds bad, yes, but what does that really mean from a physiological standpoint? :??
Not much, actually. Most sugars and alcohols go through a step in their metabolism in which they are an aldehyde - usually acetaldehyde but sometimes formaldehyde - but those compounds are perfectly natural components in the metabolic cycle and are in turn processed into other compounds that are ultimately eliminated from the body via the kidneys. There's not a bucketful of formaldehyde circulating around your body pickling your organs no matter how much diet soda you drink. :thumbsup:

Angelia
02-14-2006, 07:48 PM
Thanks--that's what I suspected, but I wasn't sure. I didn't think I was being pickled! :rofling:

knittingachiever
02-14-2006, 07:52 PM
Glad to help out!

BTW, Angelia, I was just reading on another thread that you are a literature professor - so cool! That's just what I wanted to be when I grew up before I got sidetracked by med school. ;) What flavors of literature are your interests?

Angelia
02-14-2006, 10:48 PM
I wanted to be a bio-chemist at one point...but the math! Dear gods, the math! :rofling: I still dream of a biology degree and just might get one. If nothing else, I'd at least get street cred with my students! ;)

Medieval lit is my thing, though I have a soft spot for the Renaissance, as well (Shakespeare...Marlowe...yum! :heart: ). But really, any literature makes me pretty happy!

knittingdoula
02-15-2006, 02:25 PM
Glad to help out!

BTW, Angelia, I was just reading on another thread that you are a literature professor - so cool! That's just what I wanted to be when I grew up before I got sidetracked by med school. ;) What flavors of literature are your interests?

I used to think it would be so cool to be a doctor. Then I married a medical student!! It's like the seventh circle of hell, quite frankly, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. (Ok, well, maybe my worst ....) The sheer volume of reading is beyond belief, and I'm suprised anyone makes it through.

Plus, there are people who go through med school, like my DH, with FAMILIES. I know mothers with multiple kids who do it. Incredible.

I applaud anyone who can go to med school. And KNIT, no less!! :cheering:

Cheers,
Alison

knittingachiever
02-15-2006, 09:21 PM
Thankee, knittingdoula :blush: It is cool to be a doctor, but it is stressful too. I started in a surgical residency after med school but it was too brutal for me. Plus it took away too much knitting time! So I left that residency and I'm doing research in embryology right now. I'll be starting an internal medicine residency in June, which I'm very excited about. I'll keep y'all posted.

And Angelia - medieval lit, that is wicked cool. I never got further than the Canterbury Tales - does that count? :thinking:

Jan in CA
02-15-2006, 09:46 PM
Thankee, knittingdoula :blush: It is cool to be a doctor, but it is stressful too. I started in a surgical residency after med school but it was too brutal for me. Plus it took away too much knitting time! So I left that residency and I'm doing research in embryology right now. I'll be starting an internal medicine residency in June, which I'm very excited about. I'll keep y'all posted.



That's awesome! Do you have a blog? I've been long interested in what everyone's day job is..maybe should start a poll... :thinking:

Jenelle
02-15-2006, 09:56 PM
Bread/ starches (Carbs are bad, we've been warned)


Okay, I have to disagree with this. Eliminating carbs from your diet is BAD!

From what I learned, startches convert into sugar, which produces energy. You need that energy to burn, like running, walking, lifting, and other excersizes. You can have carbs, just as long as you eat them in moderation, and not blowing it out of porportion.

I could go on and on about how the whole cycle works, but I shall not :rollseyes:

brendajos
02-15-2006, 10:19 PM
i think the point was that breathing will kill you so trying to cut out everything that can kill you is crazy. I believe it was irony.

I am kind of excited about formaldehyde...isn't it a preservative? :rofling:



I tried the Diet Coke with Splenda...it doesn't taste right. I agree it tastes too much like regular coke which is toooo sweet for me.

Jenelle
02-15-2006, 10:22 PM
I tried the Diet Coke with Splenda...it doesn't taste right. I agree it tastes too much like regular coke which is toooo sweet for me.

I havn't tried that yet. I've tried a lot of diet sodas and my favorites are Diet Cherry Pepsi and Diet Cherry Vanilla Doctor Pepper. I like the flavors of them both :)

Angelia
02-15-2006, 11:12 PM
Simple carbs (refined sugars and all that) BAD. For me, within 30 minutes after a meal of simple carbs (like pancakes :heart: ), I must sleep--I have no choice--and I feel like crap for a few hours afterwards.

Complex carbs (whole grain goodness!) well, GOOD! Even energy, happy tummy, virtuous feeling...fabulous! :thumbsup: I loves my oatmeal!

I'm pretty excited about the preservatives, too. I figure if my body is exhumed 500 years from now, I'll look EXACTLY as I did the day I was buried! :thumbsup: Yay! ;) Too bad they aren't working on me right now... :thinking:

bjc1050
02-15-2006, 11:31 PM
I am kind of excited about formaldehyde...isn't it a preservative? :rofling:



Sugar is also a preservative. Think STRAWBERRY PRESERVES! Couldn't have them without sugar.