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03-06-2006, 05:14 PM
so i decided to break the Babe out for a spin for the first time and i CAN"T DO IT!
i can't get the fiber to wind so its just twisitng and twisting and not winding and i don't know what i am doing wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok just venting off to try again!
03-07-2006, 04:55 AM
Deep breaths! From: http://schachtspindle.com/help/help_sw_troubleshooting.htm :
"Yarn has too much twist.
This is a common problem for new spinners. Generally, when the yarn overtwists it kinks up and results in yarn breakage. Usually overtwisting is caused by holding the yarn too long before allowing it to take up onto the flyer. Try slowing down your treadling and drawing out the fibers faster so that they can be taken up more quickly. Also, you can try tightening the tension so that the yarn takes up faster."
Does this help?
03-07-2006, 09:36 AM
those were the things I was going to suggest. Also, check the strength of your group of the fiber. You should be holding it with just a little pressure. The biggest thing I struggle with is my death grip. I just keep thinking that the yarn is just going to fly out of my hands.
03-07-2006, 10:42 AM
yes, thank you. the tension isas tight as i can make ti and still nothing.
i sent an email to the creator and ASKED what else could be my problem... do you know he had the nerve to talk to me like i was stupid. so naturally i had to go orr. first the booklet they sent didn't go with my wheel and then the pictures were not copied very well and i could see what was what anyway. i had to look at the picture on the web page just to see if i had it together correctly...which i'm still not sure of! so i got issues...
03-07-2006, 11:16 AM
I was considering a babe. But I think now I will go with something else.
No new spinner should be without support.
Can you take your babe into your lys? There might be someone there who can help you make sure it is assembled correctly.
You might also try posting your question here http://www.knittersreview.com/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=8
There are a number of babe owners who may be of help.
03-07-2006, 12:10 PM
I just finished a spinning class and another woman in the class had a babe. The tension adjustment is a cable/cord thing that goes up over the bobbin and is then velcroed to the frame part of the wheel. From what I understand, it's a little touchy, so even a very small adjustment can make a big difference.
If you're unsure that the wheel is put together properly, take it up to Myer's House Weaving Department in Florissant (that is where I took the spinning class). I'm sure Nancy or someone else there would be able to help you figure out the wheel.
ETA: According to the information here (http://www.babesfibergarden.com/BFG92001/function.htm), maybe you need to loosen the brake?
As the yarn is spun, it is loaded onto the bobbin by the brake tension and pull on the spun yarn, which slows down the flyer so the bobbin spins faster and it pulls the yarn onto itself until the tension is pulled back and the flyer resumes revolving. The machine does not work like scotch tension. You can spin without the brake being on and the bobbin will pull the yarn in. The leather brake helps to keep the flyer in place and when you need some extra pull in. If you pull the brake too tight the bobbin and flyer becomes like a single unit and all it does is twist the yarn. Start with brake loose and tighten a little at time until it pulls in like you want.
Also, assembly instructions are online here (http://www.babesfibergarden.com/BFG92001/bfsprod3.htm)
Hope this helps! I can only imagine how frustrating it would be to have a brand new wheel and not be able to do anything with it!
03-07-2006, 03:47 PM
thanks ya'll. i thought of taking it to Myer House. but the guy emailed me back and was nicer. he explained the brake thingy to me again. so i'll just have to play with it to get it where it will work for me .
03-12-2006, 11:08 PM
Did you try oiling it? That sometimes helps with my Ashford.
03-14-2006, 05:30 PM
Hey koolbreeze - did you get your Babe working?
03-15-2006, 12:35 AM
NO...and i'mma tell you like i told my husband...LEAVE ME ALONE!!! naw just playing.he laughs at me cause i can't get this thing to work. i searched many sites and i finally ran acorss someone who had the same problem and emailed her. well she told me how she fixed but i don't get it so i will tincer with when i feel like it again. i'm just so frustrated with and i keep looking at sites with beautiful handspun yarn and get inspired but then get pissed cause i suck and i can't get my tension right. the guy at babes was NO HELP at all. i wanna call him and go off. :wall: hey but thanks for askin!!! :D
Is this the kind of wheel that the drive band connects the big drive wheel to the bobbin itself? (Not a whorl next to the bobbin, but the bobbin itself, just one drive band loop going around this.) Then there's a little black strap that slows down the flyer (the U-shaped part with hooks on it)? If you turn the wheel, then the bobbin goes around, and the flyer stands still. If this is your wheel....
This is called a "single drive bobbin lead" wheel. The black strap that slows down the flyer is what will control the pick-up, where the yarn is pulled into the bobbin. It should be "just loose enough that the flyer turns easily, and that you can easily hold the yarn out," according to a video I have on spinning. But it needs to be tight enough that the yarn feeds into the unit when you release it, and it sounds like this is the issue. Try tightening that strap! Do it just a tiny bit at a time, until the yarn feeds in readily. ;)
Hope that helps!
Also, with this kind of wheel, use the larger side of the bobbin on the side where the drive band attaches, this will give you a slower speed and less twists, which is easier for beginners. In general that's the side used for thicker yarns or for beginners, and the smaller side is used for thinner yarns.
03-15-2006, 08:04 PM
yes that is it!!! thank you so much for the info Amy... you have sparked a new hope in me!! :heart:
Great! Good luck koolbreeze!!
BTW, this is supposedly the wheel type that requires the fewest adjustments of any wheel! Once you figure out that one adjustment, the rest should all come together. :thumbsup: