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Friskums
03-07-2006, 01:16 PM
So, recently I've started convincing my bf that Oregon would be a nice place to live.
I've wanted to move and live there for years now, and while he hasn't been too keen on the idea in the past I must be wearing down on him cuz lately he hasn't just flat out told me No. :mrgreen:

I'm also interested in going to the vet college in Corvallis there (I've read/heard it's one of the best).
So, I've been looking online for info/statistics/yearly averages for Corvallis and Albany.

Last night as we were talking about it, he suggested we take a week-long trip to Oregon and see if it's a place we (mostly him) wouldn't mind.
I think a big lure for us is all the rain. We both love rain, thunderstorms, etc.

After he said we should visit (and I said we could go for my bday in August, or our anniversary in Sept) then he was wondering what we'd do for a week. And I said, hey, I'll ask you wonderful ladies (and guys) if you have any suggestions.

So, I'm looking for places to visit in Corvallis, Albany, or Salem (cuz I've always wanted to go there).
Anyone have any ideas on what we could do? We're really not like party animals or anything, and we do enjoy historical things. Oh, and anything free or cheap is good. ;)

Thanks. :D


Edited to add: I love animals, so anything with them is good too. ^_^

feministmama
03-07-2006, 02:40 PM
You are SO in trouble!!!!!! Portland has at least 15 or 20 LYS!!! I'm not sure about Salem/Corvallis/Eugene but I'm sure they have tons too. Corvallis has a big university there so it's a small town populated by students.. It's close to the ocean too. The ocean out here is breath taking. Big cliffs, sandy beaches, haystacks, curvy roads along the edge of the water. It's great. But wait you like the mountains you say? Well they're only an hour the other way! So we got it all. Mountains for skiing and hiking, valleys for cities and oceans for well oceans. Theres a higway, I5, that goes stright up and down connecting Eugene, Corvallis, Salem, Portland, up into Washington thru to Seattle.

I'm an east coast person so I'm not native but I've bene here over 10 years and I :heart: it here. People are friendly (not all grouchylike on the east coast. I swear the cold makes you grouchy) and the rain is som romantic. Makes it not so cold too. So you can jike and camp and alla that year round. We attract a lot of nature/tree huggun/granola types. A lot of hippies came here after the 60's I think. So we're a fairly progressive bunch. Mixed in with some conservatives that live in the boonies. I think Corvallis is more conservative. Salem is the capitol so lots of government buildings and stuff.

We do get floods sometimes. Maybe every 10 years or so. And then a few earthquakes but I think they're exciting. They don't do too much damage. Not like California and Mt St Helens will give us a little spurt now and then. On a clear day you can see both Mt Hood and Mt St Helens. And the rainbows!!! I've never seen so many rainbows in any one place in my whole life.

What else, oh yeah we got Powells in Portland. Salem has one of the coolest children's museums. I've heard Salem is a good place to raise kids (if ya'll are thinking about that). Portland is very kid friendly too. And dog friendly. If youwanna be a vet you will have PLENTY of clients.

OK I'm rambling now. But if you wanna know more let me know. I will happy to be your tour guide.

Friskums
03-07-2006, 03:01 PM
That's awesome! Just makes me want to move there all the more. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...now I'll just go and get my hopes up. ;)

Thanks for the comment, it really sparked a few ideas on what we can do. ^_^

Jan in CA
03-07-2006, 03:47 PM
Here's a cool site that lets you compare cities for all kinds of info. Just get a free membership. I love playing with it even though I'm not moving anywhere. ;)

http://www.bestplaces.net/

AidanM
03-08-2006, 12:49 AM
My only complaint as a native Oregonian against people from other states is this...
DON'T VOTE FOR A FRIGGING SALES TAX!!! :rollseyes:

Jeeeez...

Other than that, if you're a competent driver in bad conditions I'm sure you'll fit in just fine. :thumbsup:

Friskums
03-08-2006, 01:04 AM
:lol:
Well, I haven't voted yet, so I'm not too worried about it. ;)


Down here, it feels like I'm the -only- competent driver. :rollseyes:

AidanM
03-08-2006, 04:01 AM
My mother once had a conversation with a Californian that went something like this.

*standing in the checkout lane, it's raining cats, dogs, and assorted pygmy animals outside*
Californian: Wow...
My Mother: What?
Californian: Everybody's just...driving!!!
My Mother: . . . . *facepalm*

Seriously. To this guy, it was like a miracle that people could do the speed limit in the rain and not get in a 60 car pile up.

Debbie
03-08-2006, 06:19 AM
Jan, that was fun ... but I never did find the how important is the number of LYS question :)

knitncook
03-08-2006, 09:55 AM
What I found so odd about Oregon is that while it rained often, we rarely had thunder. Not like here in the deep south where we get thunder even without rain :) But it is gorgeous and you will be much closer to wine country! Oregon wines are the absolute best! I never liked red wines until I moved to Oregon and tasted a good Pinot Noir! Mmmmmmm. I want to move back ot Oregon SO badly. Cost of living has sky rocketed since we left. Who let all those Californians in? :D

AidanM
03-08-2006, 11:23 AM
Who let all those Californians in? :D
:mad: I don't know, but I guarantee you that should I find them I will have some unkind words and maybe a few pokes with my needles to share with them...

Friskums
03-08-2006, 11:48 AM
My last car didn't have windshield wipers. ..Well, it -did-, they just didn't work. And up north, during the summer, we'd have days upon days of rain. Sometimes it's light rain, but it usually it pours.

I was moving the rest of my stuff one day, and the whole 2 hour drive I had it was just gushing. And me, with no wipers. And I was going 55-65 the whole time (minus a few towns where I had to slow down to 30)

So...I think I could handle driving in the rain. ;)



And about the Californians? No offense to any here intended, but I can't wait for that damn state to fall into the ocean. :evil: (I've had too many bad experiences from people from there.)

twinmom
03-08-2006, 11:57 AM
Oregon is a great place to live, visit. Late summer early fall is the perfect time. Remember that Oregon rain is different than most of the world. It has been described as a soaking, gray drizzle. Most parts of the country has thunderstorms that move in and rain real hard then clear out. Oregon and particulary the valley (Portland south to Eugene) has long days of cloudy gray drizzle. My mom when she moved here from Iowa said the first winter in Oregon was the coldest she ever lived through. That said the sunny days are clear and you can see forever. Very green, lots of mountains, only an hour away or the coast again only an hour or less drive from the valley.
There is plenty of free or cheap things to do. Wine tasting is at the peak in Sept. , unlike many California winerys OR is often free tastings and you can take your own picnic basket and enjoy some beautiful views. Hiking and camping are plentiful, check out the Makenzie River outside of Eugene. Or hiking along the coast is beautiful. A longer drive to Crater Lake, or central Oregon (Bend area) gives you some high dessert area.
Enjoy.

knitncook
03-08-2006, 12:04 PM
Yes the rain is totally different! I rarely used a raincoat or umbrella. Rarely got rainy enough to bother. I only remember twice in the 8 year span that I lived there that it actually RAINED really hard and we had threats of flooding in some of the low valley areas. I lived in Newberg, which is set in this bowl. To go north, east or west you have to go UP! We rarely got snow down in our little town, but we would get iced in and couldn't get up to Portland. I had a great job that would let me take work home if I thought we were going to get iced in. I loved those days. I miss the wonderful four seasons that Oregon had. I haven't had as wonderful produce since moving from there either. The strawberries, watermelons, blueberries and corn were all so sweet and lucious! Oh and I can't forget the blackberries! They are everywhere!

AidanM
03-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Oregon's Seasons:
Rain, Road Construction, Hunting Season, and Freezing Rain

jhelanee
03-08-2006, 09:11 PM
Oregon's Seasons:
Rain, Road Construction, Hunting Season, and Freezing Rain


:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard:

Jan in CA
03-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Who let all those Californians in? :D
:mad: I don't know, but I guarantee you that should I find them I will have some unkind words and maybe a few pokes with my needles to share with them...

AHEM!!! :wall: I don't live there, but geez.. :??

AidanM
03-09-2006, 12:31 AM
I don't know what it is about otherwise intelligent Californians that makes them vote yes on budget cuts to education and a sales tax, but it irks me.
I've just had lots of bad experiences with cali people. Prove me wrong, Jan! Please!! :!:

Jan in CA
03-09-2006, 12:48 AM
Okay first of all... considering how populous this state is (2004 est. 35,893,799) how many have you actually encountered and had bad experiences with? 5? 10? Even 20?

As for the budget woes..don't get me started. Even when we do vote something the idiots in Sacramento or someone else puts a hold on it. :rollseyes:

I will admit we have problems here, but I don't think problems in Oregon can be blamed on us.

AidanM
03-09-2006, 03:19 AM
Actually, there's been an inordinate influx of Californians into Oregon. Mostly idiotic yuppies who think "Won't it be nice to get out of the city?" and then bitch and moan when they have to drive 30 minutes to get to the grocery store. :rollseyes: Gee, Sherlock, maybe the city wasn't so bad since you can't just schedule your life better instead of running to the store on a whim?

knitncook
03-09-2006, 12:02 PM
When I moved to Oregon as a young bride in '88 the nice Victorian homes were going for $50-$75K. BIG houses - multi story with finished attics and basements. We dawdled too long trying to figure out which house we wanted to buy. By the time we left Oregon in '94 the prices had quadrupled. My MIL was a realtor and she said for several years that there was a policy of asking where buyers were from. If they were from California they were told one price (higher) on the house and if they were Oregonians or from anywhere else in the country they were told a different (lower) price. Well, they caught on so the prices instantly went up. In a single 9 month period the prices on homes tripled! Californias where used to paying half a million for a house so they were finding paying $250K for the same size house a steal in Oregon. They found the valley a really cool place to live. It was between the two silicone giants (Seattle and San Fransisco) in wine country, and affordable housing. We've wanted to move back to Oregon so badly and we just can't afford the difference in cost of living right now. My dh, a native Oregonian, is another one that wishes California would get zapped by aliens or fall into the ocean. He blames our not being able to move back to Oregon on the Californians migrating north.

twinmom
03-09-2006, 12:50 PM
As a native Oregonian, never lived outside the Portland area, I am tired of California bashing. Yes, housing prices are out of the reach of a lot of people, but, I don't think it can be blamed on CA.
Having said that, I am also tired of new people moving into the area and wanting to change some of our laws and way of life. Sales tax, gasoline pumping, salting roads, and the big one is property boundaries--taking out farms and green spaces for 'Mc Mansions' is not right.
My aunt has been in real estate for many years in the Lake Oswego area, she was never aware of the double standard for Californians moving in.
I must say that I am enjoying the surprise snowfall this morning, I love the way the city shuts down after a half inch to inch of snow.

Friskums
03-09-2006, 01:11 PM
I must say that I am enjoying the surprise snowfall this morning, I love the way the city shuts down after a half inch to inch of snow.

Geez, that'd be nice. Up north, I remember walking to school through snowbanks that were taller than me. Granted I was short, but...it still sucked. :lol:

Jan in CA
03-09-2006, 01:48 PM
:shock: Enuff said, but I wouldn't talk to Californians about immigration problems. :shock:

feministmama
03-09-2006, 04:37 PM
Poor Jan! I don't think any problems we have in Oregon are due to you. I :heart: Jan.

The folx I know from CA are usually from San Fran. Mostly grassroots organizer social jsutice worker types who are being priced out and feel that Portland/Eugene has the same respect for progressive politics as San Fran without the high prices. So does that mean my 5 or 10 friends from San Fran are raising ALL the prices of stuff in Oregon? Not so sure. I think the fault lies inthe people who have to pwer to conrol the prices of things. Like the Real Estate comapnies, gas sations, supermarkets, etc. I love that I can buy organic milk at Freddys for almost $2 less than Natures or Whole foods or New Seasons. My frineds from San Fran had nothing to do with the price of milk. The people are Natures do.

(that said I still lots of folks with California licence plates that drive really bad :rollseyes: )

Jan in CA
03-09-2006, 04:45 PM
Poor Jan! I don't think any problems we have in Oregon are due to you. I :heart: Jan.

(that said I still lots of folks with California licence plates that drive really bad :rollseyes: )

:heart: Thank you, Femmy!

Drivers... :roflhard: This much traffic breeds impatience unfortunately, but when we were in Seattle area in January we thought they were pretty bad. I guess you get used to what you have and don't think much about it anymore.

AidanM
03-10-2006, 03:39 AM
Two things that ALL the drivers I see are guilty of:
1. Not using their GOSH DANGED TURN SIGNALS
2. Pulling into the wrong lane.

Number Two REALLY ticks me off. Some MORON almost wrecked my car when she pulled into my lane at an intersection. *curses loudly* I still get irate when I think about the casual way she waved at me when I honked. *grumbles*

feministmama
03-10-2006, 12:30 PM
OK here's a west coast driver thing (that means Oregon, CA and Washington). So you're at an intersection and the car in frot of you is stopped waiting to take aleft. There is no one in the lane next to you and no one coming for miles. The other side has TONS of traffic so this person in front of you has a while. Now if you're from the east coast, you just go around them but west coast people, SIT THERE AND WAIT!!!. What is UP with that?!?!?!?

brendajos
03-10-2006, 12:41 PM
wow...i am not from nor have i been to either California or Oregon but sheeeesh~ :crying:

03-10-2006, 12:50 PM
WOW, reading this thread has been an eye opener for me. Hubby and I have been talking about making a move to WA or OR in the next few months, but now that you guys have opened my eyes to the price of housing out there it makes me wonder if we should just move back to the midwest.

Living out east for the past 4 yrs has been just aweful. Dumbest thing we ever did. We've been stuck in a contract through my hubby's work so this June we'll be free to leave whenever!!! :cheering:

You talk about horrible drivers out west, spend 20 minutes on the roads out here and you'll feel like you're back home!! The people out here are absolutely INSANE. Coming from the midwest to out here, well if you have some sort of death wish then by all means make the move, but if you want to keep your sanity - STAY WHERE YOU ARE.

The idea of no more 18" snowfalls is what got us talking about moving out west. I am soooo sick of shoveling snow. I don't mind rain at all, I actually can't stand sunshine!! I should clarify - I'm a more partly sunny kinda girl. I'd rather have big puffy clouds fill the sky than straight sunshine. (I get migraines very easily from bright light)

Sigh, once I tell hubby about this post we may be picking another destination. :(

Is the Seattle area just as bad home price wise??

brendajos
03-10-2006, 12:59 PM
awww i LOVE LOVE LOVE Connecticut and miss it every day. And I am a midwestern girl...grew up here in small town Iowa. I am always trying to decide when I am going to move back to CT though...It makes me sad that you don't like it there. Most of my family probably wouldn't have either but i think i left a little piece of my soul there when i moved back home! :crying:

Jan in CA
03-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Doglover and anyone else thinking about moving out west, please don't make an important decision based on the few comments in this thread. We are only a few people and some of the vents are based on one or two peoples views.

Anyone serious should check out various places on the internet like
Sperlings Best Places (http://www.bestplaces.net/Default.aspx) where you can compare housing, cost of living, crime, etc. I just checked my city and it seems to be pretty up to date to me. There are other places to check as well.

03-10-2006, 02:01 PM
awww i LOVE LOVE LOVE Connecticut and miss it every day. And I am a midwestern girl...grew up here in small town Iowa. I am always trying to decide when I am going to move back to CT though...It makes me sad that you don't like it there. Most of my family probably wouldn't have either but i think i left a little piece of my soul there when i moved back home! :crying:

Ugh, are you kidding me? Were you drugged against your will while you lived here?? ;)

Its aweful, the people are horribly rude and not too mention just plain stupid. They are completely out to get you on the roads which is why I only go to the yarn stores and the doctor! j/k

Where did you live?? That will probably make a difference, if you live in the 'hills' then yeah, it's probably a lot nicer up there - where practically no one lives. :lol:

Well, I guess some people have to like it otherwise no one would stay here. Come to mention it, every week now some business is closing because its too much for them with the taxes out here.

Sigh...I just can't wait to leave, every week I seem to see a Penske moving truck with our name on it. :rofling: :rofling: I am sooo counting the days...

brendajos
03-10-2006, 02:12 PM
I lived in Fairfield County. Loved the hills too though. With the exception of one city, maybe two, i thought the entire place was beautiful and that the people were lovely. *shrug* just different experiences I guess. The one city was just too industrial looking for me who had gotten use to tree lined windy streets! And the other I just spent time on their wonderful college campus but had been told that wandering off the campus was dangerous....didn't have need to wander off it though.

ooooooooh there is another town that i found to be kinda scary right there in Fairfield County but i rarely had need to travel through there so that was okay! :shock:

03-10-2006, 02:16 PM
Doglover and anyone else thinking about moving out west, please don't make an important decision based on the few comments in this thread.

Oh my dearest Jan, I would never make a life changing decision based on a few opinions. It was just good for me to read those posts about the financial aspect. We really want to move out there so maybe it'll work out and maybe it won't. This way we'll look into the home buying aspect a little further.

Wish us luck!!

03-10-2006, 02:20 PM
Loved the hills too though. place was beautiful

I totally agree that this is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, all the trees - wow - Its just gorgeous in the fall, but the rest of it, eh, not so much.

Just a nice place to visit not to live. IMO.

AidanM
03-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Oregon. I love being an Oregonian. It's just sometimes I see things that make me think "D'OH! That's not the way it's supposed to go!!" - I would think the same way if I lived anywhere and saw stuff like that. Oregon, as our new marketing campaign will tell you, Is For Dreamers. :thumbsup: