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Denise in Michigan
05-24-2006, 04:14 PM
...have been posted! :cheering:

Ingrid
05-24-2006, 04:18 PM
Everyone in creation must be trying to look at those. I got that email too, and the site is soooooo slooooooow right now!

Jax3303
05-24-2006, 04:44 PM
they were really slow to load, and after all of that waiting, I'm dissapointed. IMHO, that skirt is yuck, the baby shirt could be cute, but it's not a style that I think is appropriate for babies, and the tea cozy is just not something I would make.

CateKnits
05-24-2006, 04:49 PM
The skirt belongs on You Knit What. The baby shirt is adorable, but I'd rather have one in my size. The tea cosy...I'm not even going to touch that.

Jan in CA
05-24-2006, 04:52 PM
Where are they?

mulene
05-24-2006, 04:57 PM
I think we all got the email at the same time.. they loaded eventually for me (Jan - knitty.com at the top where the patterns are listed at the top)

actually heres the snip from the mail:

- A crazy skirt from Pinpilan Wangsai that demands proper accessorization
[accessory notes are in the pattern]

- An adorable baby halter from Tisra Fadely, for babies in warmer climates

- And a real coup -- a special felted tea cosy pattern, designed especially for
Knitty by Kristin Nicholas...knitted and embroidered in an irresistable array of
colors.

IrishBaby
05-24-2006, 04:59 PM
Even with my cable internet, I can't get the pics to load! Maybe I'll try again later. ;)

Jan in CA
05-24-2006, 04:59 PM
Okay, I see them now. That baby shirt is really cute, but that skirt and tea cozy? http://bestsmileys.com/sick/9.gif

DotMom61
05-24-2006, 05:33 PM
I think what's "suprising" is that someone actually knit it. Ack!

knitqueen
05-24-2006, 06:08 PM
The shirt is cute, the skirt is ICK and I actually really like the tea cozy!!! I don't drink tea though so can't see myself ever knitting it.

tab
05-24-2006, 06:11 PM
The skirt belongs on You Knit What.
My thoughts exactly. To the word, the moment the picture loaded.
I don't really like the baby top either. Halter tops on babies are weird. One in my size would be cute, provided I wasn't as chesty as I am. I haven't been able to wear strapless things since the ninth grade. :rollseyes:
I thought that the idea of a felted tea cosy was neat, and I would consider making one based (loosely) on the design there. However, since I don't actually use teapots to let my tea steep, it's sort of a moot point. I thought the polka dots were... not cute.

Overall, I'm disappointed with this month's surprises. But I am going to knit a Nautie, since they're adorable. That would have made an awesome surprise.

feministmama
05-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Alright now poeple, I'll give you the skirt as a major :fingerwag: and the little shhirt on the baby is cute. But I like the tea cozy. Call me old fashion or whatever but I like tea cozies. I don't know if I would actually knit it but if Kelly made one and she invited me over for tea and had that czy I would tell her how lovely it is. :inlove:

mulene
05-24-2006, 06:58 PM
I quite like the tea cosy =P My mum might use that - she's the only person I know in the world who uses a tea cosy!

The top for the baby is cute too - I dunno it doesn't bother me that its a halter top for a baby.

The skirt.. well it's pretty err interesting? =P I know several people where I work who would love that and wear it but IMO they have the strangest taste in clothing. Whatever floats your fashion sense I guess =P

mintdee
05-24-2006, 07:48 PM
I love the halter top for a little one. The skirt and cozy on the other hand :doh: Not so much.

knittingachiever
05-24-2006, 08:18 PM
What a huge disappointment! That skirt is really awful, who could it possibly flatter? And an ELASTIC WAIST??! :shock: And I am sort of repulsed by that baby halter with the triangle bodice... the sex-objectification of children just keeps scooping to new lows. Yes, I'd wear it, but I am an adult woman with a choice of how I want to display my body. Shame on Knitty for publishing it!! :mad: The tea cozy is fine, I'd just never make it or use it.

Errm. Sorry to be so outspoken, but, well... I waited almost 2 months for THIS?? :wall:

Hildegard_von_Knittin
05-24-2006, 08:35 PM
I think the baby halter is really cute! I don't see that it's inappropriate... maybe I would feel differently if I had children...

CateKnits
05-24-2006, 09:32 PM
I guess I don't see a problem with the halter because, well, I've seen a lot of little girl babies running around with NO shirts on, so how is covering them worse? I really doubt the person writing the pattern thought, "hey, we should make girl babies sex objects!" or anything; I think it was more likely, "what can I knit for a baby that will be cool?" and, face it, backless cotton shirts are cool.
But I don't have children, so feel free to tell me I don't understand and am part of the problem.

knittingachiever
05-24-2006, 09:47 PM
I don't mean to sound so judgmental about it, I don't have kids either and I certainly don't think anyone here is part of any problem. :heart:

It is indeed totally okay for little girls to wear no shirts, but when they are dressed in clothing styles that look like adult styles, especially ones that would be deemed sexy and alluring if an adult were wearing them, I get skeeved by it. The backless triangle halter would be sending a clear message if I wore it, so what message is being sent by putting it on a baby? Ya see what I mean?

DoulaLyndsey
05-24-2006, 09:48 PM
I love the little halter, I might make one for my youngest.

The tea cozy I don't really like and the skirt is hideous! The shape of it looks like it would make your butt appear huge.

XbelovedXoneX
05-24-2006, 09:54 PM
i understand the feelings about the clothing these days for little girls are far too influenced by adult women's clothing.... but i love that little tank! I'd love to make it for my friend's baby. I think it is nice because is nice and loose. much more hippie-like than hooker-like. :rofling:

and GOOD GRIEF is that skirt atrocious!!!

Jan in CA
05-24-2006, 10:06 PM
Some of the reaction to the little halter have me scratching my head.. :?? It seems to cover the chest area fine and looks like it would nice and cool. I also don't see that much more is showing than in this toddler sunsuit.
:thinking:

Land's End sunsuit (http://www.landsend.com/cd/fp/prod/0,,1_2_52358_53307_142680_120787_5:view=4,00.html? CM_MERCH=PAGE_53307&sid=6436172188235150992)

Phretys
05-24-2006, 10:11 PM
I don't mind halter tops in kids, in general, but this particular style seems to draw attention to the breasts (or lack of them) on the baby. My two cents, anyway.

Debi

Jan in CA
05-24-2006, 10:17 PM
Huh. I'm just not seeing it that way. I think it's adorable.

knitqueen
05-24-2006, 10:34 PM
I was born in the 70s and we wore stuff like that when we were little girls (my sister and I, that is) so it's nothing new! :thinking:

brendajos
05-24-2006, 10:46 PM
yeah i think the halter is cute and i loved wearing them when i was a kid. let's talk about teenage girls wearing pants that say "Juicy" on the butt! :rollseyes:


aaaaaaaaaanywaysssssss....i love the tea cosy. if i had a reason for it i would certainly consider making one....maybe i could make it similarly in a hat! ;) :rofling:

mintdee
05-24-2006, 10:56 PM
Remember these? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/mintydee/tubetop.jpg
Don't know the kid so I covered her face. I had a tube top when I was little. That thing was falling a lot because of the lack of big girl boobage. The difference here (in my opinion ) is mindset. Bad people looking at kids the wrong way has everyone running scared and looking at everything in a different light. (not always a bad thing! just my opinion here) So a shirt like this will look cute on kids for some and look the other way for some people. Just a matter of perspective.

gimmesanity
05-24-2006, 11:36 PM
The skirt is hideous - I can't imagine it looking good on anyone. Seriously, find me a pic of someone who's able to rock this thing and not look like she's wearing a marshmallow.
Ick.

The halter top is cute...I can see where folks are put off by it, though. I don't hooch out my 1 year old. You won't see her in tube tops or anything with spaghetti-type straps. I just think little girls should dress like little girls. I'd let her wear this, though...just maybe with a pair of pants vice shorts so she's a bit more covered up. Does that make sense?

I'm not a tea cozy kinda gal, so no opinion there.

Katheros
05-25-2006, 01:46 AM
I think that baby top is adorable! I don't think my two boys would feel the same way, though. :rollseyes:

aylaanne
05-25-2006, 09:31 AM
Babies are different than toddlers. I'd make that top for my 6-month-old, but not my 6-year-old. There are sexual predators and they do look at little girls and little boys, but infants are not usually the victims of sex crimes, it's more preschoolers and early elementary. So I'd be way more careful with how I dress my older young children.

The top is definitely on the borderline.

And knitty seems to be down at the moment, or I would go re-read the skirt pattern for accessory notes. The skirt itself I thought was hideous. I've been looking for a cute knit skirt pattern--I guess I have to keep looking.

geekgolightly
05-25-2006, 09:46 AM
I don't mean to sound so judgmental about it, I don't have kids either and I certainly don't think anyone here is part of any problem. :heart:

It is indeed totally okay for little girls to wear no shirts, but when they are dressed in clothing styles that look like adult styles, especially ones that would be deemed sexy and alluring if an adult were wearing them, I get skeeved by it. The backless triangle halter would be sending a clear message if I wore it, so what message is being sent by putting it on a baby? Ya see what I mean?

I am in total agreement. It really startled me to see it. I don't think that anyone meant anything by it, but to put an infant in clothing that is meant to be alluring is bad juju.

geekgolightly
05-25-2006, 09:53 AM
yeah i think the halter is cute and i loved wearing them when i was a kid. let's talk about teenage girls wearing pants that say "Juicy" on the butt! :rollseyes:



that really bothers me as well. as do tube tops on anyone who isnt sexually mature.

i am not by any means a prude person, but children wearing suggestive or provocative clothing bothers me. i don;t know if its because i was molested that my alarm bells ring harder than others, but i think putting clothing on children that is meant to trigger sexual thought creeps me out. just my perspective.

Mienna
05-25-2006, 10:58 AM
The site is completely unavailable now. :( :(

brendajos
05-25-2006, 11:01 AM
that's whatcha all get for bein' mean about the skirt! :P

Celine
05-25-2006, 11:08 AM
I can't get on the site either so I can't share my opinion on either of the items. I'll try again later to see what all the talk is about. :XX:

kellyjo32
05-25-2006, 11:16 AM
The site is still down. Whew, knitty must have gotten word about this post! I can't wait to see these things that have caused such mixed reactions!

Hildegard_von_Knittin
05-25-2006, 01:09 PM
I wonder if the controversy is widespread enough for them to remove it? My feeling is that if something doesn't look "right" to me, I just won't knit it. Re: the "juicy pants".... I think that's ridiculous and asking for trouble, hence I will not let my (non-existant) children wear them... but if other people want to let their kids, hey whatever, not my issue.

brendajos
05-25-2006, 01:21 PM
something tells me that as slow as it was loading yesterday and as long as it has been down they have probably had a massive failure of some of their equipment. I don't know a LOT about webstuff but i have found that it usually doesn't take TOOO long to take something off a site so i would have to think it was some other issue. just my guess though. *shrug*

brendajos
05-25-2006, 02:05 PM
it's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

samm
05-25-2006, 05:12 PM
Argghghhh. The skirt looks like the bottom half of the bloomers we used to have to wear in gym. I don't know many woman who would want ballooning knitted fabric enhancing their thighs...... Kinda scary! samm

Jenelle
05-25-2006, 05:33 PM
I don't like that skirt..

Ohh but that tea pot cozy is just gorgeous :inlove:

Amber
05-25-2006, 05:36 PM
Um, yeah. Disappointing. I think the baby halter is cute, but not terribly practical. The tea-cosy is pretty, but not something I'd ever make. And, the skirt... oh my! That, to me, seems like something that might be flattering on a little girl, but not so much on a grown woman. JMHO.

hedgehog
05-25-2006, 06:22 PM
yeah i think the halter is cute and i loved wearing them when i was a kid. let's talk about teenage girls wearing pants that say "Juicy" on the butt! :rollseyes:



that really bothers me as well. as do tube tops on anyone who isnt sexually mature.

i am not by any means a prude person, but children wearing suggestive or provocative clothing bothers me. i don;t know if its because i was molested that my alarm bells ring harder than others, but i think putting clothing on children that is meant to trigger sexual thought creeps me out. just my perspective.

I have to agree. Little girls should dress as little girls.

In Britain a few years ago the "big thing" was wearing clothing from the "Porn Star" clothing line. Most of the time you'd see young women walking around with a t-shirt that looked like someone had dipped their hands in paint and squeezed their breasts. In the middle it had the words "Porn Star" emblazoned in metallic lettering. To me, that just asks for objectification. However, the wost thing was when i saw what must have been a 10-11 year old girl wearing such a shirt while shopping in town. Simply, simply awful.

Right.. digression over...

The baby halter walks a fine line - i can see the hippy aspect but also the adult aspect of it.

The skirt is absolutely hideous. Who wants to spend that much time knitting a skirt that looks that bad and needs to be worn over leggings?? Me thinky no.

And the tea cozy? Well, i can certainly see the functional aspect of it (being a consumate tea-drinker) but THAT particular cozy looks like a giant alien breast, complete with nippleage. Again, no.

-hh

iza
05-25-2006, 07:15 PM
This skirt is AWFUL! So awful I actually think it's hilarious! :rofling:

As for the baby halter, I think it's adorable. But I guess it's a matter of wearing the right thing at the right place and at the right age. For a baby that young, I think it's fine.

However it is scary to see clothes they sell to little girls nowadays. Some stores sell leopard thongs for 7 year old girls, for crying out loud!!!

Hildegard_von_Knittin
05-25-2006, 08:00 PM
One of my girlfriends has a three year old, and she said she liked it, and didn't feel that it was distasteful.

kellyjo32
05-26-2006, 06:06 AM
How come I still can't see it?! Argh! I'm still getting the "This site is temporarily unavailable" message.
Strange...

KellyK
05-26-2006, 08:20 AM
Call me old fashion or whatever but I like tea cozies. I don't know if I would actually knit it but if Kelly made one and she invited me over for tea and had that czy I would tell her how lovely it is. :inlove:

You are invited over ANY time, Femmy, but if I knit that it would more likely be keeping my soda cold.... Do I SEEM like a tea-maker-cozy-user?? :rofling:

And, re: the baby halter, I think its the neckline.... the sunsuit that Jan linked to doesnt give me the same feeling that the halter does. Yeah. If the halter didnt have a V neckline, I would think it was cute and much more appropriate.

Pixywhispers
05-26-2006, 11:02 AM
Wow. The skirt. I'm sure if I was in a foreign country where I did not speak the language I may have too much time on my hands and make such things. Its interesting, but I would never knit it.

The halter is a bit much. I dont mind the exposed shoulers on a baby, but the neckline is too much. I think a much higher neckline would be appropriate and still make it hip. Ten years ago I would have flipped at the sight of this, but if youve tried to buy age appropriate clothing for children in the last five years you know how hard it is. Push up bras for "training bras", slutty shoes for todlers, and nightgown that look like lingerie. I've had to buy my girls shorts and bluejeans in the boys sections so thier hips arent exposed. Keeping girls fashionable while keeping the modest is hard work these days.

No one would dare dress a boy in any equivalent (and what equivalent would that be?) But its ok to dress girls in a sexually provactive way?

Its a personal choice. I also worry that if my girls get used to dressing that way when they are young they will expect me to let them when they are older. Ok, end rant.

kellyjo32
05-26-2006, 12:41 PM
Finally I got to see them!! All this excitement and splat. I can see where the alien boob comment came from for the tea cozy, but it is kind of cute in a felted tea cozy sort of way...and along with everyone else, that skirt...yikes. :??
For the baby halter....I am rather modest, but I also feel like babies need their skin covered up to avoid too much sun exposure...not something I would ever put on my (non-existent) child.

Yvonne
05-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Holy cow, that.........skirt is just......ugh!!
At first I thought the leggings were tight ribbing on the bottom of it. then I saw the photo of it not being worn and all i could think of was a balloon valance or something. I hate the colors, the shape (or lack thereof), everything. It doesn't really look like it was even knit well, going by the look of the stitches on the back of it in that weird slanty picture.
I'm pretty surprised Knitty published that. Definitely one for You Knit What!

DotMom61
06-06-2006, 11:20 AM
OK ...Ultra Conservative Mom checking in here re: the baby halter top.

I have to be honest. The first time I saw it, I thought, "Hmmm ... interesting." And I immediately decided it was something I would never knit, nor did I have any desire to knit it. I definitely didn't go, "Ohhhhhh ... that's SO cute!" But I really didn't think anything negative of it initially until someone here suggested that it was too suggestive. I guess it just didn't strike me that way.

So, I just went back and looked @ the baby halter again. First of all, I think the back is too open & leaves too much skin exposed for sun reasons. Secondly, I think the neckline is *very* modest. Thirdly, I think it would be just as cute -- perhaps more cute -- if it were not knit w/ that neckline. Personally, I think a little tank top would be much nicer. In summary, I wouldn't put this on a child of mine -- existent or not -- but mainly because I don't particularly like it -- the top that is, not the existentially questionable child ... or would that be the questionably existential child? :thinking:

In addition, I'm sure that there's someone out there who could find a way that a baby could get in trouble with the ties around said baby's neck. Perhaps it should come with a few warning labels or something. Wait ... the warning labels should be on the skirt.

CarmenIbanez
06-06-2006, 12:12 PM
yeah i think the halter is cute and i loved wearing them when i was a kid. let's talk about teenage girls wearing pants that say "Juicy" on the butt! :rollseyes:



that really bothers me as well. as do tube tops on anyone who isnt sexually mature.

i am not by any means a prude person, but children wearing suggestive or provocative clothing bothers me. i don;t know if its because i was molested that my alarm bells ring harder than others, but i think putting clothing on children that is meant to trigger sexual thought creeps me out. just my perspective.

I went on a camping trip with 7th graders and it amazed me how much time they spent in the morning putting on makeup. Since our school doesn't allow makeup, I of course didn't think it should be allowed on a school trip.

I also can't believe how many of them have shirts or shorts that say "hottie" or "you want me". Seriously! 13 years old.

And I am definitely not a prude. The oversexualization of children in our society is shocking. And in my environment (the privileged private school) the number of moms who come to our school in inappropriate clothing (how about a workout bra and workout PANTIES) that basically was a bikini. Put a big shirt on over or something!

hedgehog
06-06-2006, 12:20 PM
(how about a workout bra and workout PANTIES)

Good lord... gross.

-hh :mad:

mulene
06-06-2006, 12:23 PM
(how about a workout bra and workout PANTIES)

Good lord... gross.

-hh :mad:

Yep gotta agree.

DotMom61
06-06-2006, 04:28 PM
And I am definitely not a prude. The oversexualization of children in our society is shocking. And in my environment (the privileged private school) the number of moms who come to our school in inappropriate clothing (how about a workout bra and workout PANTIES) that basically was a bikini. Put a big shirt on over or something!

I've got to 2nd this!! I've had a really hard time finding anything for my DD to wear here lately because it all looks like it belongs on a stripper. :rollingeyes: I don't get it -- nor do I want to! :lol:

CarmenIbanez
06-06-2006, 04:35 PM
I am so glad I have a son!

mintdee
06-06-2006, 04:40 PM
My 9 yr old is at the age that she LOVEs clothes and shopping to the extreme. Unfortunatly she is really into the short skirts, tiny shirts, pants with words on the bum the whole 9. Tim and I do not allow her to wear thoes type of clothes and refuse to purchase them for her. Even more unfortunatly though is that the sperm donor read: the man who plays daddy when he feels like it, Loves to shop and sees no problem with clothes like that on girls. Honestly some of the things that girl comes home with is just upsetting. We also do not allow her to leave the house with make up on. The SD puts make up on her and does her hair, what ever she wants. Really its like he is trying to be her friend instead of her dad. But that is a rant for a whole different time. Honestly the stuff that kids wear now a days is just terrible! I would not have been caught dead in skimpy stuff when I was that age (of course the stirrup pants and ginormous shirts are but coverage wise but not cute lol)
Anyway as I was saying the fact that clothing companies actually make stuff like that for kids to buy is terrible, the fact that some parents let their kids get out of the house with that stuff on is just plain sad really.

CarmenIbanez
06-06-2006, 04:46 PM
My mom had a rule that goes in my house as well: our home is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship, and I am the dictator. Therefore, children have no right to privacy (this changes as the child earns it) and have no personal property. That means that it doesn't matter if you buy it with your own money, because you don't really have your own money. Because, after all, it IS a dictatorship, and the dictator reserves the right to confiscate anything and everything that doesn't meet with approval.

Now for my SON, instead of worrying about skimply clothes we argue about whether certain video games are appropriate. I don't CARE that 13 is a teenager and should therefore mean that he can play games rated "T" for teen. I decide what he plays, which means, we go into best buy and try them out together. If they are shooting games that have too much blood that you can't turn off, then NOPE! Also, no gratuitous sex or bad imagery of men or women. Like Grand Theft Auto. Yikes!

brendajos
06-06-2006, 05:14 PM
i remember when i was a kid i had a t-shirt that was red and had sparkly writing. i LOVED it....i mean seriously...who wouldn't love a red t-shirt with sparkly writing. I had no idea what it said...couldn't say what it said and didn't have any idea what it meant....all i cared about was that it was red and sparkly and mom let me pick it out myself.

how was i to know that my t-shirt that said "Classy Chassis" was suggesting i had a good body. :rollseyes: i guess i did for a 10 year old.

Mom just thought it was funny because she knew i had no idea what it meant. if i had been 15 she never would have allowed it! :shock:

DotMom61
06-06-2006, 05:14 PM
My mom had a rule that goes in my house as well: our home is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship, and I am the dictator.

:roflhard:

We have an Electoral College here -- votes are determined by the number of birthdays you've had. ;-)

brendajos
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
My mom had a rule that goes in my house as well: our home is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship, and I am the dictator.

:roflhard:

We have an Electoral College here -- votes are determined by the number of birthdays you've had. ;-)

and that's why we will always be stuck in a two party system! d*mned electoral college! hmph!


:rofling:

CarmenIbanez
06-06-2006, 05:16 PM
My mom had a rule that goes in my house as well: our home is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship, and I am the dictator.

:roflhard:

We have an Electoral College here -- votes are determined by the number of birthdays you've had. ;-)

I LOVE that! And when they say it doesn't make sense, or it isn't fair, you can just say, DUH! it's based on the electoral college!

:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard:

DotMom61
06-06-2006, 05:37 PM
I LOVE that! And when they say it doesn't make sense, or it isn't fair, you can just say, DUH! it's based on the electoral college!

:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard:

ExACTly!! :thumbsup:

(See ... the E.C. is good for something!)

VickiIL
06-06-2006, 05:43 PM
In addition, I'm sure that there's someone out there who could find a way that a baby could get in trouble with the ties around said baby's neck. Perhaps it should come with a few warning labels or something. Wait ... the warning labels should be on the skirt.

That's my problem with it. As a mom to three children, I would never put an outfit on my child that tied around the neck like that. (Even my bibs all were velcro.) For a number of reasons. One, who wants to be constantly tying that up. And two, I am sure my kids would find a way to wrap that around the baby's neck. However I don't think it was immodest or inappropriate. I just don't particularly like it.

VickiIL
06-06-2006, 05:55 PM
My mom had a rule that goes in my house as well: our home is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship, and I am the dictator.

:roflhard:

We have an Electoral College here -- votes are determined by the number of birthdays you've had. ;-)

Ohh...I like that . We have always said we have a benevolent dictatorship in our house (and yes, even the 5 year old can give a basic definition of what that means). But I like this better.

DotMom61
06-06-2006, 06:15 PM
Ohh...I like that . We have always said we have a benevolent dictatorship in our house (and yes, even the 5 year old can give a basic definition of what that means). But I like this better.

Yes, and w/ the three kids, you *still* have no danger of them out-voting you! :lol:

:?? <-- tries to do the math to figure out when the kids will be collectively older than the two of you together. Can that happen??

Ellen Edwards
06-07-2006, 08:33 AM
I have to throw in my 2 cents worth, I guess!! This thread gives me a lot of hope, actually!! I notice what designers are trying to put our little girls in, much less women who are old enough to know better!! I wondered if I was in the minority about letting our little girls know what's proper dress and what is not!

Even with the Skirt of Horrors, the Inappropriate halter--and the iffy tea cozy---Knitty managed to give me a good look at what some of us think about where our kids are concerned.....that gave me a big smile today!! The news is filled with sexual predators on the internet, in the malls, next-door, etc. I don't think you can ever be too careful when it comes to little girls OR boys--these sick people are finding new ways to exploit and prey on our little ones everyday. Unfortunately, they are the ones who cannot protect themselves at all....so we MUST do it for them, IMHO!! :thinking:

CarmenIbanez
06-07-2006, 11:26 AM
Well as usual, we've all hijacked another thread. :roflhard:

My mom (who is a seriously raging liberal hippie) raised me to NEVER judge anyone by how they look or what they wear. But she constantly reminded me that everyone else would probably judge me that way.

What is funny is that I am obsessed with making it nearly impossible to judge what kind of person I am by how I dress. I tend to dress the exact opposite of my personality.

I don't know where I am going with this other than it amuses me that the most uptight, conservative moms at our school are the ones whose daughters are all tarted up! Every free dress day I have to go to the headmaster and turn in all the little girls (4th and 5th graders) who are wearing makeup. (not allowed at our school).

I am very sad that my boobs are saggin and I'm starting to get wrinkles, and my butt hangs down to my knees, but I am able to deal with it a lot better than some of my female friends whose only worth in life is what they look like. I just feel like we're sending a generation of women to slaughter.