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skNYC
06-25-2006, 02:46 PM
I am working on a hat and using this pattern with a RT. When I looked up RT instructions, it looks like just a cable twise without a cable needle. Am I correct? If the same, why don't they just call it cable?

Ingrid
06-25-2006, 03:35 PM
I think that cables generally have an even number of stitches that cross each other.

A twist has a 'travelling' cable where you may have two stitches that cross in front of one stitch. Sometimes the twist involves a knit cable and a purl background.

Also, when you're doing a 'small cable' you do it without the cable needle for ease.

Bottom line, knitting terms are not universal and are sometimes ambiguous. :rollseyes:

skNYC
06-25-2006, 04:43 PM
Whoaaaa !!!!!
I am working on this (http://www.needlebeetle.com/fionasfriends/free/lphat.html) hat, then I looked up this (http://wendyknits.net/knit/rightcable.htm) explanation about RT, and I knitted about 1.5 inches, and it looked nothing like the pattern !
Please help me understand this specific pattern (see link above). It says: "RT-right twist. Knit next 2 stitches together. Leave on left needle. Knit to first stitch. Drop both from needle".

I am totally lost ! :crying:

Ingrid
06-25-2006, 06:36 PM
Aha! The pattern calls for a Right Twist. The directions you posted are for a right cable.

They should have named the cable directions something different--a right leaning cable, or a front cable. The cable does twist, but isn't a twistin knitting terms.

Do the directions that the pattern calls for:

RT-right twist. Knit next 2 stitches together. Leave on left needle. Knit into first stitch. Drop both from needle.

You knit the two stitches as if you are going to knit them both together. Don't slide them off, but instead reinsert your needle between them and knit the first stitch closest to the point again. Them slide them off.

skNYC
06-25-2006, 07:16 PM
I am not sure how to picture that instruction. I so found this site with graphics:
http://www.thedietdiary.com/blog/lucia/336
then this site with just plain words:
http://www.knittingfool.com/pages/abbrev.cfm?StartRow=161&PageNum=9
Compared the above with the pattern I am using, they sound like 3 different stitches to me.

Please help ! I am going insaint.

Ingrid
06-25-2006, 07:22 PM
There are other ways to do a right twist, but I didn't want to mention them to save confusion.

I'm not sure what the difference is, to be honest.

Try it the way your pattern calls for--don't try to envision it, just try doing it and it will be a lot clearer. Since that's the twist used for the hat, that's the one I'd go with.

There's no "right" way. All of them twist the two stitches with the second one in the front of the twist, but each has it's own way of doing it, and likely it's own subtle difference.