PDA

View Full Version : FDA chicken


hellokitty165
10-24-2006, 01:54 PM
I heard that FDA is going to inject chicken with one type of chemical or virus inorder to prevent them from sick....anyone heard about this ???

boyforpele13
10-24-2006, 03:28 PM
if you do some research, you'll find they already are and have been for ages, I'm sorry to say. :( check out The Meatrix (http://themeatrix.com)

brendajos
10-24-2006, 04:22 PM
well i can't hear that video clip here so I don't really know what it is discussing, but they have been injecting chicken and other meats with all sorts of cwap for years. If you ever flip over a package of chicken look at the ingredients. it is almost always injected with some sort of broth which amps up the sodium content in it. There is obviously SOME sodium that occurs naturally in chicken but it isn't as much as you will find in there. If you consider how much that really is in your day it is a little disconcerting.

I am always amazed by people who say "yuck" to organic food like there is something wrong with it, when you are actually getting food as God intended you to have it...without all the pesticides and nasty additives.

gimmesanity
10-24-2006, 05:20 PM
It's not just chicken - they do it to pretty much all non-organic meats.

We try to buy organic whenever possible for this reason, even if it is sometimes a bit more spendy. I can totally tell the difference in taste, especially with chicken. Maybe it's because of the injected sodium stuff, I dunno, but organic chicken tastes more...chickeny, somehow. Organic milk tastes different, too.

I think we need to stress how organic is better for everyone - you, your family, and the environment.

brendajos
10-24-2006, 05:33 PM
It's not just chicken - they do it to pretty much all non-organic meats.


(yeah i know but i don't eat those meats or buy them so i can't speak for them no matter how much i want to and usually do! :teehee:)

boyforpele13
10-24-2006, 05:45 PM
my reply disappeared! brendajos, i'm sad that site doesn't work for you. here (http://http://themeatrix.com/news/index.html) is the main site, maybe that will help somehow and there's a help page (http://www.meatrix.com/help/movies.html), and i've heard also you can download their stuff free at itunes, but i haven't looked yet. there is now a Meatrix 2 - Revolting (http://www.themeatrix2.com/) and Store Wars (http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html) is fun.

Amber
10-24-2006, 06:34 PM
Yuck and double yuck!

That's why we buy almost all of our meat here: Paidom (http://www.paidom.com/).

brendajos
10-24-2006, 07:23 PM
my reply disappeared! brendajos, i'm sad that site doesn't work for you. here (http://http://themeatrix.com/news/index.html) is the main site, maybe that will help somehow and there's a help page (http://www.meatrix.com/help/movies.html), and i've heard also you can download their stuff free at itunes, but i haven't looked yet. there is now a Meatrix 2 - Revolting (http://www.themeatrix2.com/) and Store Wars (http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html) is fun.


Oh I didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with the site. I could watch the video just fine but I have no ears on my computer at the real job so i could only look at the pretty flashing pictures! ;)

VickiIL
10-24-2006, 07:51 PM
Sadly much of our food (meats and veggies)has been altered from it's natural state. We try to buy organic when ever possible. It can cost a bit more but we have joined produce co-ops and searched for local farms, butchers, etc that have better prices for organic foods. We have noticed a huge difference not only in the taste of the veggies and other organic foods (the taste is so much better) but also in how we feel.

cookworm
10-26-2006, 01:46 PM
I am always amazed by people who say "yuck" to organic food like there is something wrong with it, when you are actually getting food as God intended you to have it...without all the pesticides and nasty additives.

I don't turn my nose up organics--not only are you getting food the way it was intended to be eaten, but also, you're paying for 100% product. The problem with injecting the packaged chicken with broth for me isn't so much the sodium content is it is the added weight that you're paying for that you're not eating. You're pay whatever price per pound for "meat", but part of that is liquid. That bugs me. :grrr: Also, "broth" usually consists of MSG and other byproducts I don't necessary want to ingest (what exactly is "hydrolyzed yeast", anyway???), and I don't want someone else making a choice for me on what to put in my meat to flavor it, thank you very much, plus, those additives are just plain disgusting and unhealthy. :ick:

brendajos
10-26-2006, 02:24 PM
*nods*

I always wonder if people think my issues with things like sodium being added to food is because I have high blood pressure or something. Not that it matters if they do but I REEEEEALLY want them to know how much it bothers me about the cwap that is added to my food that I don't want. Unfortunately I can't run the family farm right now (and really wouldnt want to! :SHOCK:) so I can't have food that I absolutely know the source without paying lotsa money in shipping and such. That isn't to say I don't eat junk (as I shove cheetos in my mouth while trying to type this) it is the HIDDEN stuff i don't like.

and again....Organics just seem to taste better.

hellokitty165
10-26-2006, 03:17 PM
After chatting with my husband...we decided to go Organic...not that we want to live forever but down the road i think is a better choice and so that i can knit longer on this universe :teehee: those chemical in long run not a good thing to our bodies... i stop eating chips aldy... i used to be 100 in my overall cholestrol 5 yrs before i came here and now it double !!!! wow... and my weight was 127 pounds height 5'10... now

156 POUNDS>>>> the funny things is i am still fitting size 8-10 jeans and i think all the fat goes to my face... it look like a pizza...u know what i mean ??? gooesh... well i am on diet now and had felt better since and alot of pilates...and knitting of course !!!!

psammeadred
10-26-2006, 08:04 PM
As a scientist myself, I would have to say that I'd rather have a few antibiotics in my body than have food poisoning. (This is the voice of experience - my whole family getting food poisoning in a motel is pretty much the low point of my entire life.) There's a reason why our veggies and meat are being treated with chemicals!

As far as the viruses go, they are a possible method for treating people with genetic diseases. It's a really neat idea, too - you take a virus, which is just protein wrapped around genes, replace the make-you-sick genes with a gene that that person needs, and give the person that virus. For example, people with cystic fibrosis could theoretically be cured by inserting a gene for the protein they need.

gimmesanity
10-26-2006, 08:17 PM
As a scientist myself, I would have to say that I'd rather have a few antibiotics in my body than have food poisoning. (This is the voice of experience - my whole family getting food poisoning in a motel is pretty much the low point of my entire life.) There's a reason why our veggies and meat are being treated with chemicals!

Mmm, this is where I'd have to disagree. If we prepared our food properly, we wouldn't have to worry about food poisoning. I really don't want any excess antibiotics floating around my body. If I was sick, that's one thing, but I don't see how it can be healthy to ingest antibiotics via our food when our bodies don't need it. You wouldn't give a healthy person a prescription for penicillin 'just because.' The same goes for hormones - you wouldn't give a toddler a daily dose of growth hormones just for the heck of it. Yet, our milk and beef have trace amounts of it (the non-organic stuff.)

Our veggies and meat get treated not necessarily to make it safer, but to make it last longer and to help our livestock give higher yields. It's not about safety, it's about the bottom dollar.

psammeadred
10-26-2006, 08:58 PM
If we prepared our food properly, we wouldn't have to worry about food poisoning. I really don't want any excess antibiotics floating around my body. If I was sick, that's one thing, but I don't see how it can be healthy to ingest antibiotics via our food when our bodies don't need it. You wouldn't give a healthy person a prescription for penicillin 'just because.' The same goes for hormones - you wouldn't give a toddler a daily dose of growth hormones just for the heck of it. Yet, our milk and beef have trace amounts of it (the non-organic stuff.)

Our veggies and meat get treated not necessarily to make it safer, but to make it last longer and to help our livestock give higher yields. It's not about safety, it's about the bottom dollar.

I agree, we wouldn't have to worry about food poisoning if all people who prepared food would, oh, let's say, WASH THEIR HANDS after going to the toilet. I work in a college of Pharmacy, and you wouldn't believe how many professors barely rinse their hands. It's disgusting. *end rant* But there will always be people who prepare food with abysmal hygiene. Antibiotics were originally used as a protection against instances like this.

Should antibiotics be added to food in the quantities they are now? Nope. But they do serve a (limited) purpose. We need to protect our food supply from bacterial contamination (and careless people who get others sick), and so far, antibiotics have been one of the only ways to accomplish this goal. Now, though, radiation sterilization may hopefully make antibiotics obsolete in food preparation.

But if you're worried about antibiotics in your meat, slow-cook it - most antibiotics are heat-labile, which means they're broken down when exposed to heat for any significant period. The ones we use in the lab for tissue culture experiments, penicillin and streptomycin, are inactivated if they're above room temperature too long.

Short version of a long-winded post: Better to have tiny amounts of antibiotics in your system than salmonella! :ick:


(sorry, that was probably way more geekage than anybody wanted! I'd better shut up now, before I wax semi-elegant on overprescription of antibiotics and antibiotic-resistant bacteria!)

hellokitty165
10-27-2006, 12:11 AM
As a scientist myself, I would have to say that I'd rather have a few antibiotics in my body than have food poisoning. (This is the voice of experience - my whole family getting food poisoning in a motel is pretty much the low point of my entire life.) There's a reason why our veggies and meat are being treated with chemicals!

Mmm, this is where I'd have to disagree. If we prepared our food properly, we wouldn't have to worry about food poisoning. I really don't want any excess antibiotics floating around my body. If I was sick, that's one thing, but I don't see how it can be healthy to ingest antibiotics via our food when our bodies don't need it. You wouldn't give a healthy person a prescription for penicillin 'just because.' The same goes for hormones - you wouldn't give a toddler a daily dose of growth hormones just for the heck of it. Yet, our milk and beef have trace amounts of it (the non-organic stuff.)

Our veggies and meat get treated not necessarily to make it safer, but to make it last longer and to help our livestock give higher yields. It's not about safety, it's about the bottom dollar.

I agree with you ... alway wash your veggie and meat before cooking ... even those prewash salad is not safe...dun forget antibiotic kill the good bodies too...not just getting rid of germs...