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11-05-2006, 03:32 PM
It's me again with my Mesa Sweater. Here's the pattern Im stuck on: http://www.nyyarns.com/free_patterns/mesa2.pdf

I just finished the front side and have my armhole at 4 inches. My question is do I go back to the directions for the back where it says to put stitches on holders or do I go on to the "shape neck" part?

11-05-2006, 04:01 PM
No, you complete the front first, the back's done except for joining the back and front and later on it tells you how to do that. Work on the Shape Neck and note that you'll also be decreasing on the armhole edge at the same time you're decreasing for the neck edge. Just follow everything step by step and it'll all come together.


11-05-2006, 05:35 PM

One more question, after my front armholes are 4 inches, it says to knit 16 and then attach a new ball. May seem like a dumb question but why attach a new ball when the one I have has plenty of yarn on it?

11-05-2006, 05:37 PM
You're attaching a new ball because you're going to bind off the center stitches and need a strand for each side. Attaching the ball and doing the bind off with the new ball is nice because the end is quite secure in the bind off.

11-05-2006, 10:36 PM
Thanks. that helped. Now I'm a stuck again :oops: I'm on the "shape neck" part. After I add the new ball, bind off 5 and knit to the end, then I need to turn around and purl back to the bind off stitches right? Then before I get to the bind off stitches, I bind off two more stitches at the neck. Right?
Then I pick up the dropped strand and work it's side. Is that correct or am I being confusing?

11-05-2006, 10:44 PM
You can't bind off at the end of a row, you have to do the next 2-stitch bind-offs when you're starting at the neck edge.

So you'll bind off and finish the row, turn the work.

Purl all the way across the first shoulder, hop over the bound off stitches to the other strand of yarn, bind off two and work to the end.

Turn your work, knit across the shoulder that you're on, hop over the center stitches, and bind off the first two stitches on the other side and knit to the end.

On the next row, purl across each side without any decreases.

At this point you can decrease at the neck edges either at the beginning or end of the rows since it's only one stitch and you can just k2tog at each neck edge for as many rows as you need to.

11-05-2006, 10:58 PM
Wow! You should write "knitting sweaters for dummies" because you are amazing. I completely understood your directions. Yah!!! :cheering:

11-05-2006, 10:59 PM
:cheering: :cheering:

11-06-2006, 12:28 AM
Do you sew the side seams before or after sewing on the sleeves? Does it matter?

11-06-2006, 08:44 AM
If the sweater is knit flat, I do it in this order--connect the shoulders either with three-needle bind off or mattress stitch, then lay it out flat, face up. Attach the sleeves with mattress stitch to the armholes, then sew the side and arm seams. I usually start from the bottom up to the armpit on both the sides and the sleeves, so that if they don't turn out perfect, any glitches are hidden in the armhole.

11-06-2006, 11:44 AM
Naturally, I'm now confused about the sleeves :) It says cast on 26 and by the time I'm done increasing, I end up with 48 stitches. I'm kind of lost on all of the increases on all of the rows. Can I increase gradually until the piece measures what it should as long as I end up w/48 stitches?

11-06-2006, 01:23 PM
That's what the pattern wants you to do. Look at it and figure out if it wants you to inc every inch or two inches or whatever, then you do it similarly. Then make sure you do it the same on the other sleeve.


11-06-2006, 01:44 PM
Cast on 26 / 32 sts. Work even in stockinette stitch for 6
rows, then inc 1 st each side of next row, every 4 (4, 4, 5) /
4 (4, 4, 4, 2) rows 8 (7, 7, 8 ) / 7 (11, 11, 15, 4) times, every
8 (6, 7, 4) / 6 (6, 6, 6, 4) rows 2 (4, 4, 5) / 6 (4, 4, 2, 16)
times. Work even on 48 (50, 50, 54) / 60 (64, 64, 68, 74)
sts until piece measures 13 1/2 (14 1/2, 15 1/2, 16 1/2) / 17
1/2 (18 1/2, 18 1/2, 19 1/2, 19 1/2) from beginning. Bind off
all sts.

I've bolded all the numbers that apply to the size you're making. We'll help you figure this out so you're not left just guessing where to put the increases.

So you're starting off by casting on 26 and working even for 6 rows. So rows 1-6 will be knit one row, purl one row, etc., row 6 itself will be a purl row so you will be ready with a RS row to start your increases.

Now, you are going to increase 1 stitch on each side on the next row and then every 4 rows, 8 times...followed by every 8 rows, 2 times. You will then have arrived at 48 stitches and can continue to work even until you reach the proper measurement.

So if row 7 is our first increase row and then you are going to increase every 4 rows 8 times, you will also be increasing on: 11, 15, 19, 23, 27, 31, 35, 39. So that set of instructions has 9 increase rows in total, for a total increase of 18sts (2sts increased in each increase row). So your original 26sts+18sts = 44sts at this point.

Now, you will increase every 8 rows 2 times. So going from row 39 where you left off before, your next increase row will be on row 47 and then row 55. This is two additional increase rows, 4sts total increased. This will bring your grand total to 48 stitches and you can now just work even with no more increases until you reach 13.5" from the beginning.

11-06-2006, 11:16 PM
I did it! Woo Hoo!! I finished one sleeve. Thank you so much! On to sleeve number two

11-06-2006, 11:32 PM
:cheering: :cheering: :cheering:

That was quick!!!!