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Cristy
01-13-2007, 08:29 PM
Are they trying to change their image??? I suddenly started getting a "catalog" (just got it yesterday) with knitting patterns in it that are for purchase....I noticed they've got 100% wool out now (anyone tried it???) and cotton ease is back?

Think they've noticed there are a lot of fiber enthusiasts out there (re: the cotton ease and wool)? I think I've even noticed a change in the labels on some of the yarns when I'm at Michaels...

I went to Michaels to buy some baby pink 100% wool--thinking I'd try the new lion brand stuff but it doesn't come in that color (at least not at my michaels...only a fushia color)

hunterjenn
01-13-2007, 08:46 PM
Yeah, I noticed the new labels on 100% wool at my Michael's, too...weird!

cookworm
01-14-2007, 10:07 AM
I think they're trying to change their image to give themselves more of an "upscale" look, in their catalogs, on their skein labels, and on their website. If you go to their website, you'll also see that they have hand-painted yarns at OUTRAGEOUS prices. :noway:

I haven't used their 100% wool because Paton's Classic Merino is 100% merino wool (which is very wearable to me; not all wool is for me), it's cheaper per skein than the Lion Wool, and you get more yardage per skein.

of troy
01-14-2007, 02:45 PM
things might change again..

Nancy Thomas (former editor of Vogue) was at Lion Brand (these past 5 years or so.. and developing a new line of yarn, and patterns takes a few years) has left.. i think alot of these yarns are her influence..

now that she is gone...there will be new influences.. they may be good or bad, (depending on what you like!)

CarmenIbanez
01-14-2007, 04:58 PM
I have noticed that they've brought out some nice yarns. But the newer, nicer fiber yarns have also resulted in them raising their prices on there old, still cheap fiber products as well.

I am excited about cotton ease being back, though!

jodstr2
01-14-2007, 05:01 PM
yeah, the print catalog is a LOT nicer than like 3 years ago.

I haven't been to Michaels in a while tho. I should go check out the Lion stuff.

suzeeq
01-14-2007, 05:04 PM
On a related note.... Family Dollar has Lion Boucle for $1. Along with Paton's VooDoo and some other stuff...

sue

CarmenIbanez
01-14-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm pretty sure I have enough "VOODOO" yarn as it is! :roflhard:

Stiney
01-14-2007, 05:54 PM
I was just at the Lion's Brand website, and they have organic cotton yarn.

Yvonne
01-15-2007, 05:35 PM
Our local Dollar General has the Lion Boucle for $1.00 too. I got each of my daughters some for stocking stuffers for Christmas, and each of the skeins was defective. They were knitting along and all of a sudden the yarn was broken, several times in each skein. Probably why they wound up at Dollar General. Sort of like skeins with knots, but the opposite. :rofl:

suzeeq
01-15-2007, 05:56 PM
Maybe Lion dumped them. A few months ago I got some Bernat Galaxy for $1 and it was fine. No knots at all.

sue

madametj
01-15-2007, 06:00 PM
I think they're trying to change their image to give themselves more of an "upscale" look, in their catalogs, on their skein labels, and on their website. If you go to their website, you'll also see that they have hand-painted yarns at OUTRAGEOUS prices. :noway:

I haven't used their 100% wool because Paton's Classic Merino is 100% merino wool (which is very wearable to me; not all wool is for me), it's cheaper per skein than the Lion Wool, and you get more yardage per skein.

yeah, i noticed some handpainted yarn (i think it was called Serenade? :?? ) and it was $20/skein. now i havent know lionbrand for long, but that doesnt seem like them.

meg9
01-15-2007, 06:37 PM
I was just at the Lion's Brand website, and they have organic cotton yarn.

Blue Sky organic cotton is actually cheaper and has much more yardage.

I believe the LB organic cotton is 84 yds per skein.


They also have their 3 gourmet yarns that ar 40 dollars per 100 yard +/- skein. 100 % Cashmere, and mohair/silk blend

Strangely enough, their mohair silk that is fingering weight is actually TWICE as much as Kidsilk Haze, which would be it's main competition.

So I can't imagine who they are targeting for this stuff. New knitters at michaels would never spend 80 dollars to make a cashmere hat, and experienced knitters who like fancier yarn brands are very careful to look at yardage when they compare prices, if they were cheaper than the Rowans out there, that would be one thing. But why pay 40 dollars for a skein of mohair silk fingering weight that you have to wind when you can spend 14 for the same yardage of kidsilk haze, and its already in a ball.

So weird.

Stiney
01-15-2007, 06:41 PM
I'm pretty sure I have no idea what the appeal is behind organic cotton. I mean, the biggest thing on organic food is no pesticides/chemicals added. But for fabric? :shrug:

Unless there's some other reason that makes the cotton organic, and therefore better? (The no pesticides would be a plus, but there must be something more...?)

brendajos
01-15-2007, 06:44 PM
well i have issues with my perceived snobbery too. (okay my yarn snobbery is real...)

I would have a really hard time buying high end yarn from Lion because I don't think of them that way. I have gotten yarn from them that i have been very happy with but if i am looking for something high end i head down other avenues.

it would be like buying cashmere from Red Heart....just doesn't feel right.

is there any reason for me to feel like their high end yarns aren't good enough? nope...perceived snobbery! :teehee:

brendajos
01-15-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm pretty sure I have no idea what the appeal is behind organic cotton. I mean, the biggest thing on organic food is no pesticides/chemicals added. But for fabric? :shrug:

Unless there's some other reason that makes the cotton organic, and therefore better? (The no pesticides would be a plus, but there must be something more...?)

well theoretically it shouldn't react to the skin i would suppose. and of course there is the idea of not contributing to the chemicals added to the earth. (spoken like a true farmer's daughter :shifty:)

madametj
01-15-2007, 07:01 PM
well i have issues with my perceived snobbery too. (okay my yarn snobbery is real...)

I would have a really hard time buying high end yarn from Lion because I don't think of them that way. I have gotten yarn from them that i have been very happy with but if i am looking for something high end i head down other avenues.

it would be like buying cashmere from Red Heart....just doesn't feel right.

is there any reason for me to feel like their high end yarns aren't good enough? nope...perceived snobbery! :teehee:

I know. Its like buying Louis Vuitton from Walmart and then heading down to McDonalds for a fillet mignon. :teehee:

nadja la claire
01-15-2007, 07:22 PM
well i have issues with my perceived snobbery too. (okay my yarn snobbery is real...)

I would have a really hard time buying high end yarn from Lion because I don't think of them that way. I have gotten yarn from them that i have been very happy with but if i am looking for something high end i head down other avenues.

it would be like buying cashmere from Red Heart....just doesn't feel right.

is there any reason for me to feel like their high end yarns aren't good enough? nope...perceived snobbery! :teehee:

I know. Its like buying Louis Vuitton from Walmart and then heading down to McDonalds for a fillet mignon. :teehee:

Absolutely!!!!! Besides Paton's Merino is by far a better deal. For that matter so is MMMMMMMMMMMalabrigo and Manos, if you're talking about quality and yardage. Their "high end yarns" just aren't worth the cost.

:muah: :hug:

Nadja xxx

brendajos
01-15-2007, 07:47 PM
I think you might want to consider taking cover on the day that I buy anything from walmart...LV or not! Something BAAAAAAAAAD is about to happen if I am giving the Waltons' my money! :shock:


:teehee:

CarmenIbanez
01-16-2007, 03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I have no idea what the appeal is behind organic cotton. I mean, the biggest thing on organic food is no pesticides/chemicals added. But for fabric? :shrug:

Unless there's some other reason that makes the cotton organic, and therefore better? (The no pesticides would be a plus, but there must be something more...?)

well theoretically it shouldn't react to the skin i would suppose. and of course there is the idea of not contributing to the chemicals added to the earth. (spoken like a true farmer's daughter :shifty:)

My VERY uneducated understanding of the organic cotton/fabric issue is that the bleaching/processing part of preparing yarns and fabrics for commercial use is quite environmentally unfriendly. I don't remember all the details, but it is very much similar to how paper is made. You know brown paper coffee filters vs. white paper coffee filters. What is the point of endangering the environment over coffee filters? BUT I don't know that much about the whole thing.