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Cherinec5
04-03-2007, 02:43 PM
I seen this pattern yesterday and fell in love with it!
http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=94&d_id=24&lang=en

but it is a very confusing pattern. i have a question about the charts. do i start from the bottom up and from right to left or left to right???
has anyone made this before?? can anyone help me clarrify all of the directions?
any help is appreciated!

knitqueen
04-03-2007, 03:31 PM
This is not knitted in the round, so the chart rows will be read right to left on RS rows, and left to right on WS rows - you will start reading the chart from the lower right corner.

As for the rest of the instructions, which part specifically do you need clarified cause there a LOT of pattern there!

efsaturn
04-03-2007, 07:22 PM
thanks for the link. It is beautiful. Please post when you are done (or close to done....or halfway done.....or can just see the pattern)

Cherinec5
04-04-2007, 10:18 AM
hi guys thanks for the help with the charts i just wanted to be sure. i haven't read through the whole pattern yet but i will try to this weekend and try to write it all out so it wont seem so confusing i guess. i'm not exactly sure when i'm going to start on it as i have some other projects i'd like to finish but hopefully soon after i get all the pattern clarified.

knitqueen
04-04-2007, 10:25 AM
The thing I find most confusing about their patterns is that it's just written line after line, as though it was a run on sentence. No paragraph breaks. It would help a lot to rewrite it, with only your own size's numbers, and divide up the instructions into manageable chunks.

Cherinec5
04-04-2007, 02:14 PM
ok i just started trying to write out this pattern but i have a quick question. when i'm working on the ribbing which is k2/p3 do i do p3/k2 on the next row and so on since its not worked in the round?

also, what do they mean here?

After 2 rows dec. all P4s to P3 = 122-132-142-152-172 sts, and continue the rib K2/P3 (seen from the right side)

then over here do i have to decrease to this # of stitches?


When the piece measures 10 cm K1 row from the right side, at the same time adjusting number of sts evenly on row to 102-110-120-130-142.

then here: what do they mean by stocking sts???

Knit the next row from the wrong side as follows: 1 seam st, 2-2-3-0-2 stocking sts, M.1 over the next 96-104-112-128-136 sts, 2-2-3-0-2 sts of stocking sts and 1 seam st.

then here: what is NB? and would these be 19 rows because M1 consists of 19 rows and 8 st repeats?

Knit 1 repeat NB: On the rows where the pattern says P from the right side, P over all sts including the 2-2-3-0-2 stocking sts at each side of M.1. At the same time, on the second but last row in M.1 adjust the number of sts to 99-107-123-131-139.

i think i'll stop here for now and wait for some help before trying to continue!!!! this is very confusing.

mwedzi
04-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Hi. As with all ribbing, in the round or flat, you knit stitches as they lie. Which is to say you knit the knit stitches and purl the purl stitches. If the next stitch looks like a knit stitch, then you knit it, and so forth.

For the decreasing P4 to P3, you have to get the sections that are 4 purls down to 3 purls. You can purl 2 together in each section (on the side where these are purl stitches) or knit 2 together in each section (on the side where these are knit stitches). Basically, you just have to do a decrease in the purl section of the ribbing.

When they tell you to adjust a number to a number of stitches, it only means to increase or decrease evenly across so that you have that number of stitches. for example, if you have 100 stitches and you have to adjust to 110, it means you have to increase 10 stitches in that row evenly across.

As for the NB, I don't know what that stands for. Looks like it's just something that means "take note of what I'm about to tell you".

ok i just started trying to write out this pattern but i have a quick question. when i'm working on the ribbing which is k2/p3 do i do p3/k2 on the next row and so on since its not worked in the round?

also, what do they mean here?

After 2 rows dec. all P4s to P3 = 122-132-142-152-172 sts, and continue the rib K2/P3 (seen from the right side)

then over here do i have to decrease to this # of stitches?


When the piece measures 10 cm K1 row from the right side, at the same time adjusting number of sts evenly on row to 102-110-120-130-142.

then here: what do they mean by stocking sts???

Knit the next row from the wrong side as follows: 1 seam st, 2-2-3-0-2 stocking sts, M.1 over the next 96-104-112-128-136 sts, 2-2-3-0-2 sts of stocking sts and 1 seam st.

then here: what is NB? and would these be 19 rows because M1 consists of 19 rows and 8 st repeats?

Knit 1 repeat NB: On the rows where the pattern says P from the right side, P over all sts including the 2-2-3-0-2 stocking sts at each side of M.1. At the same time, on the second but last row in M.1 adjust the number of sts to 99-107-123-131-139.

i think i'll stop here for now and wait for some help before trying to continue!!!! this is very confusing.

Cherinec5
04-05-2007, 10:34 AM
thanks thats what i thought about the ribbing but i just wanted to be sure!

i'm still wondering what are stocking sts? anyone?

wiredqs
04-07-2007, 03:36 AM
stocking stitches=stockinette. Knit on the right side, purl on the wrong.
That drops site sure has some lovely stuff, but those patterns are pretty confusing.
Here is a link that may help with translation..http://www.knittingfool.com/pages/LanguageDictionary.cfm?alpha=a

momwolf
04-07-2007, 07:46 AM
the pattern says
Front piece: Please read the entire pattern before starting Work forward and backward on circular needle.
So is this knit in the round?
I think it's just knit on circulars because of size,and you knit like you would on straight needles back and forth :shrug:

suzeeq
04-07-2007, 10:35 AM
the pattern says
Front piece: Please read the entire pattern before starting Work forward and backward on circular needle.
So is this knit in the round?
I think it's just knit on circulars because of size,and you knit like you would on straight needles back and forth :shrug:

Patterns written in English would say it `work back and forth'. The back and front are knit flat. After you get them and the sleeves made, you join them to work in the round for a yoke, making raglan decreases. If you felt adventurous enough, you could make back and front at the same time, joining them together, but you'd have to reverse the instructions for every other row for knitting in the round. Big PITA. Probably why they're knit separately.

sue

Cherinec5
05-10-2007, 04:53 PM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYY I finally just received my yarn for this!!!! I am so excited to start this sweater. I'm still so nervous though :(. can anyone help me write out the charts? im still pretty new to charts and it looks overwhelming!

Cherinec5
05-10-2007, 05:18 PM
NEW QUESTION:

for the charts, it says

= K from the right side, P from the wrong side
= P from the right side , K from the wrong side

which one do i do? the knit or the purl?

quiltbugj
05-10-2007, 06:29 PM
those are the english translations for the symbols.
So, when you see a blank box you will knit on rights side rows and pearl on wrong side rows .

When you see a box with an x in it, you will pearl from the right side and knit on the wrong side.

A box with an oval in it means to make a yarn over.

A box with an upside down triangle: knit two stitches in this stitch (K1,P1)

two boxes with a slant going from lower left to upper right: K2 together

two boxes with a slant going from upper left to lower right: Slip one as if to knit , K1, psso

three boxes with an upside down v: slip one as if to knit, K2 together, psso

I'm working on my second drops pattern and they are pretty confusing!

Cherinec5
05-18-2007, 02:17 PM
i am still working on the ribbing but i just realized that i am working on the ribbing throughout the whole row. should i have knit 1 stitch at each end for the seam stitches and then started the ribbing???

suzeeq
05-18-2007, 02:32 PM
i am still working on the ribbing but i just realized that i am working on the ribbing throughout the whole row. should i have knit 1 stitch at each end for the seam stitches and then started the ribbing???

No, a pattern will tell you to add an extra stitch at each end for the selvedge sts. If you go adding extra stitches it will likely mess you up when you get to the charted part. Just knit the ribbing as is.

sue

Cherinec5
05-18-2007, 02:41 PM
the pattern says co and that those are inclusive of 1 seam st and each end. so i guess i have to frog it?

suzeeq
05-18-2007, 03:00 PM
You already added the extra stitches? No, just decrease them on the row between the ribbing and the first row of the chart.

Cherinec5
05-20-2007, 12:59 PM
well i done with the ribbing and the first repeat of the m1 chart. i think i'll do 2 more repeats instead of 1 to make it a tad longer. and it will give me more time to figure out the other charts. i'm confused about chart m2 a and b. as far as i can see some of the stitches overlap? how will i do that?

Cherinec5
05-22-2007, 11:00 AM
ok i have finished writing out charts M2 A and B and M3. now i'm looking at the M 5 charts and this is whats confusing me:

i dont know if it is a mistake in the chart or what. but for the first row which should be rs which i would knit while working the pattern. row 2 would be purl. now it shoulds that row 3 is knit the whole row and then on row 4 which is the WS i would work the pattern. is this correct? or did they accidently put an extra row in between row 2 and 3????
did that make sense?

should i just do row 1 rs, row 2 purl, then omit the row 3 and just do the next row up with the lace pattern?

suzeeq
05-22-2007, 11:31 AM
I dunno for sure, I can't figure out charts well in English, let alone Swedish, but in the written instructions, after the CO it reads "P 1st row from the wrong side" which seems like R1 is purled and it's the WS row.

sue

Cherinec5
05-22-2007, 11:59 AM
hi sue, i already got all that part done. i'm just confused about the fact that they said that the pattern is worked (seen) on the right side, and it is giving me an extra row in chart 5 which would make the pattern repeat on the ws.

Arielluria
05-22-2007, 01:17 PM
I seen this pattern yesterday and fell in love with it!
http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=94&d_id=24&lang=en


Oooh! Love that! I might have to add it to my very long GOTTA KNIT list! :D

Cherinec5
05-22-2007, 02:25 PM
it is a beautiful pattern! I will post pics today when i get home of the progress i have so far.

Cherinec5
05-23-2007, 10:23 AM
ok i am looking at the pattern again and this part is confusing me:

After M.1 knit the next row as follows from the right side:
1 seam st, 2-1-2-0-3 sts of stocking sts, M.4A over the next 80-88-96-112-120 sts, M.4B (= 9 sts), 2-1-2-0-3 sts of stocking sts and 1 seam st. Knit 1 repeat of M.4 and continue in M.5 the same way until finished measurements. At the same time when the piece measures 55-56-57-58-59 cm bind off 7-7-7-9-9 sts each side = 81-87-97-105-119 sts left. Put the sts on a thread and knit the back piece.

first of all the chart for M5 is not making any sense, because the pattern is supposed to be knit on the right side.