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G J
07-16-2007, 11:15 PM
My neighbor is 7 months pregnant and I'd like to make a sweater (6 mos size) for the baby. (We live in Texas, she has big babies...)

I've never done cables but am intrigued to try them and thought this would be a perfect project to try them on. Problem is, I can't find a pattern with SIMPLE cables. I've found them with multiple braids of cables, but I want something I can actually DO successfully! Either cardigan or pullover is fine. Anyone have a link or a pattern? Oh-She's expecting a boy!

Thanks!!:hug:

Jan in CA
07-17-2007, 01:12 AM
:think: Well, here's one I found.
http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60604A.html

G J
07-17-2007, 10:10 AM
Thanks, Jan. I was hoping for something cuter with a simpler cable, but I haven't had luck finding anything.

I found some GREAT baby sweater patterns in Debbie Bliss' book, "Baby Knits for Beginners", but nothing with cables.

If I was confident with cables, I'd just add some to one of those patterns. I'm guessing that's possible to do? I just wouldn't know how!

Instructions or links anyone??

G J
07-17-2007, 10:46 AM
Hey, Jan--or anyone else,
Do you think I could do This (http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=b13&d_id=7&lang=en)one?
I'm not thrilled with it, but I can't find anything else. I'd still rather add a cable to one of the Debbie Bliss patterns...

dakatzmeow
07-17-2007, 11:44 AM
have you ever done cabling? it would be super simple to add one in the center front of a pullover. you won't really need a pattern at all.

dakatzmeow
07-17-2007, 11:44 AM
at least for the cable part, i mean.

G J
07-17-2007, 11:53 AM
I've never done cabling. That's why I want to try! HOw do I alter a simple pullover to add a cable?

Jan in CA
07-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Oh I love that pattern! :inlove:

Cables pull the fabric "in" (think ribbing) so if you did several of them you might have to adjust the pattern a bit. However, adding a single cable would be easy and wouldn't affect the pattern very much.

Just take any simple pattern (top down would be easiest of course) and do the neck stitches whatever they may be and then calculate where the center would be. An even number of stitches on the front would make it center better so add one if you need one right after the neck stitches. (or add a few more to make it even if you want a larger cable.)When you know where center is figure out how large you want the cable and then add to that a few stitches on either side done in purl stitches so the cable will stand out (it's done in knit stitches).

There are always rows between the twisting and the number of rows between makes a very different looking cable. If you put fewer rows it makes it more of a twisting spiral, a lot of rows and you have a flat area between the twists.

I suggest you do a few swatches since you have time and test the yarn and cables to see what you like best.

Amy has a video I think and here's another link that might help you get started. Cables are easy so have fun!
http://learntoknit.lionbrand.com/cgi-bin/faq-search.cgi?store=/stores/eyarn&faqKey=90

I haven't done this btw, but it seems pretty straight forward...and now you have me want to try it.:teehee:

heather_dw
07-17-2007, 01:54 PM
I made this one:
http://www.coatsandclark.com/Crafts/Knitting/Projects/BabyChild/LW1494+Knit+Jacket+and+Hat.htm

it turned out very cute and it's not as terrible as it looks. Cables in general are not as bad as they seem

G J
07-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Jan, you've got me all excited to try this!! I'm scared b/c I've NEVER done cables before, but I figure if my 10-year old neice can do it, so can I!:roflhard:
And swatching will be good practice. What a novel idea!:roflhard::roflhard:

Actually, I always swatch, but hadn't thought or practicing the cables during the swatch. Great plan. NOw to go back and find a simple top down sweater pattern!

Jan in CA
07-17-2007, 05:10 PM
You're welcome! Depending on the yarn you use try putting a different amount of rows between the twists and experiment with holding the extra cable stitches in front and back to see what it does. Can't wait to see what you come up with!

And just to note... you won't want to put the first twist at the neck so knit x number of rows then start the cable.

G J
07-17-2007, 06:44 PM
I made this one:
http://www.coatsandclark.com/Crafts/Knitting/Projects/BabyChild/LW1494+Knit+Jacket+and+Hat.htm

it turned out very cute and it's not as terrible as it looks. Cables in general are not as bad as they seem

It IS cute, but we live in Texas and I want something lighter. THanks, though!

G J
07-17-2007, 06:45 PM
You're welcome! Depending on the yarn you use try putting a different amount of rows between the twists and experiment with holding the extra cable stitches in front and back to see what it does. Can't wait to see what you come up with!

And just to note... you won't want to put the first twist at the neck so knit x number of rows then start the cable.

Do you happen to have an easy top-down baby sweater pattern I could try this with?

Jan in CA
07-17-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm having trouble finding one for a baby. :??There are baby patterns, but free ones seem hard to come by for some reason. Here's a few to check out anyway.

http://www.mindseyeyarns.com/resources/patterns/baby_raglan.htm
http://www.woolworks.org/patterns/raglan.html

I love KPC patterns and there is a baby raglan here...#214
http://www.knittingpureandsimple.com/kids.html

G J
07-17-2007, 10:36 PM
Jan,
Thank you SO MUCH. I hadn't found any of these in my search.
Do you think this would work in a cardigan (making one cable on each side) or should I try to find a pullover? The only thing I'm thinking with a pullover for 6-9 months is getting it over a baby's head. What do you think?

dakatzmeow
07-17-2007, 10:40 PM
i was thinking a cardigan would be easier to get baby INTO. no pulling it over the head, kwim?

G J
07-17-2007, 10:50 PM
So do you think a cable on each side of the front would work for a never-cabled-before knitter?

G J
07-17-2007, 10:57 PM
I found this (http://www.yarnfwd.com/hailey.html)one on this site. I think it would work great in solid light blue for the body, and a darker blue for the CC. Cable down the middle. What do y'all think?

EDIT: Not sure this would be the best. IT's done in pieces, not top down. I'd prefer top down...

And WHAT KIND OF CABLE??? I have a stitch calendar that has several. What am I most likely to be able to DO successfully?

Jan in CA
07-18-2007, 02:37 AM
That's a cute one and for an infant something with buttons on the shoulder would be good. I'm not sure how a cardigan would work with cables down the front like that, but I've never tried it. :think:

Jints
07-18-2007, 08:19 PM
top down basic baby cardigan
http://www.bevscountrycottage.com/aunt-bs-basic-sweater.html

also check out other pattern links on this site.

G J
07-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Thanks Jints. It even calls for the yarn I already bought for the sweater.:hug:

I'm not sure how I'd add a cable, though! Any ideas?

Jan in CA
07-18-2007, 09:24 PM
I think the only place that would work for cables would be right next to the button band because that area goes up to the neck stitches. Not sure though.. :think:

Jints
07-18-2007, 10:02 PM
you can put cables either side of centre front, or down centre of sleeves or both. you add the button bands last so you can just do cable stitches each end.
I favour just going down the sleeves but ........you choose.
the pattern starts you at neck with ribbing, then haves you adding markers to define, front, sleeve, back, sleeve and front. you start to add the cable in here,
for centre front,before the first marker, and after the last one.
or for sleeve, after first marker and before last one.
i.e if using the 6x6 cable below (10 st total), you replace the 10 stitches of st st with the 10 st of cable. if it doesn't fit, just include the rest of it when you have increased for the shaping.
http://www.knittingonthenet.com/stitches/66cable.htm

also when reaching divide for body, check size, as cables pull in a bit, you could then add a few more increases before dividing, if needed.

dakatzmeow
07-18-2007, 10:34 PM
i would write a simple cable this way. based on an 8 row repeat. going R to L on RS, L to R on WS:

(RS)rows 1,3: purl 2. knit 8. purl 2.
(WS)rows 2,4: knit 2. purl 8. knit 2.
row 5: purl 2, hold 4 stitches on cable needle in front (or back), knit 4, knit 4 from cable needle, purl 2.
row 6,8: purl 2. knit 8. purl 2.
row 7: knit2. purl 8. knit 2.

on row 5, you are basically holding half of your cable stitches out of the way, knitting the last four stitches first. by purling before and after your cable, you are visually setting it apart.

did i make that clear as mud? i hope i didn't confuse the issue.

G J
07-18-2007, 11:10 PM
WOW! Y'all are making me SO EXCITED to make this sweater. I'm starting my gauge swatch tonight and I'll try your cable instructions with the swatch. I'm still debating between the patterns, so I'll see how the swatch goes. Would it work to do the cable PART way down the sweater? Like start below the sleeve shaping on the front?

Jints
07-19-2007, 12:20 AM
Yes you could start there, but IMO a full length cable would look better.

Jan in CA
07-19-2007, 12:22 AM
I think the sleeve cable would be awesome!

Mazie
07-19-2007, 12:55 AM
A favourite of mine is Trellis from Knitty.
It's a Baby sweater done in cotton and you could change the center cable to just straight seed stitch if you like. But it does have the cables you are looking for.

G J
07-19-2007, 10:18 AM
A favourite of mine is Trellis from Knitty.
It's a Baby sweater done in cotton and you could change the center cable to just straight seed stitch if you like. But it does have the cables you are looking for.
That IS a beautiful sweater, but since this is my first cable experience, I want something EASY! That looks too complicated for my first attempt.
Thanks, tho!

G J
07-19-2007, 10:58 AM
i would write a simple cable this way. based on an 8 row repeat. going R to L on RS, L to R on WS:

(RS)rows 1,3: purl 2. knit 8. purl 2.
(WS)rows 2,4: knit 2. purl 8. knit 2.
row 5: purl 2, hold 4 stitches on cable needle in front (or back), knit 4, knit 4 from cable needle, purl 2.
row 6,8: purl 2. knit 8. purl 2.
row 7: knit2. purl 8. knit 2.

on row 5, you are basically holding half of your cable stitches out of the way, knitting the last four stitches first. by purling before and after your cable, you are visually setting it apart.

did i make that clear as mud? i hope i didn't confuse the issue.
Your instructions and Amy's video help a LOT. Thanks!:hug:
However, it looks better to switch rows 6&8 with row 7. To K the cable section 2 rows in succession makes bumps on the RS.

dakatzmeow
07-19-2007, 11:26 AM
whoops. i must've written that backwards.:shock:

G J
07-19-2007, 04:07 PM
Whoohoo! :woot: I swatched my first cable and even made my own cable holder thingy. YAY!!!

Now here's my question: I made my swatch 20 stitches wide. BEFORE I started with the cables, it was OVER 4" wide (about 4 1/4"). After knitting the cables, it's about 3 1/4" wide. The Hailey pattern (http://www.yarnfwd.com/hailey.html) (which I'm gravitating towards) calls for 18 sts and 24 rows to 4 inches. Now, I'm planning on knitting it in the round and ONLY putting 1 cable on the front. When I counted my flat gauge, I thought I'd go ahead and make the 6 month size, and if it's a little big, no problem. Now I'm not so sure! Any advice?

Jan in CA
07-19-2007, 04:54 PM
That looks great! You could also put a few more rows between twists so it looks more cabley and I think it might lay flatter. It looks good that way too though. ;-)

Now that you know it shrinks up in width I think you can just add a few more stitches in the front (even number) to make up for it. Maybe add 6 stitches or so? :think:

G J
07-19-2007, 05:09 PM
That sounds like a good idea. I'm trying to re-write the pattern for circular knitting. I have a bunch of it done, but Here's (http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/showthread.php?p=910498#post910498)my request for additional help. THANKS SOOOOO MUCH!:hug::heart::hug: