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larudden
08-02-2007, 10:32 AM
OK, so I'm making these AWESOME "Knitsticks," which are knitting needles made from drumsticks, for my Belizean Mission Project. I'm thinking of burning some scripture into some of the sticks before I seal them.

I'd love any scripture references you know of that have the word "knit" in it. Or other favorite references that pertain to knitting. Or scriptures having to do with drums. You get the drift, right?

I'm not a Bible scholar so I figured I'd put the shout out to my Christian friends.

Thanks for the help!

Jeremy
08-02-2007, 10:48 AM
I know the shout went out to your Christian friends but I hope I'll do.:)

A woman of valor who can find....
She seeks out wool and linen, and her hands work willingly..
(Proverbs)

larudden
08-02-2007, 12:45 PM
AWESOME Jeremy! Thanks so much!

I'm making a file....................:yay:

MamaMer
08-02-2007, 01:08 PM
Job 10:11-13
10 Did you not pour me out like milk
and curdle me like cheese, 11 clothe me with skin and flesh
and knit me together with bones and sinews?
12 You gave me life and showed me kindness,
and in your providence watched over my spirit.



Psalm 139:13

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.



And in Leviticus there are several verses with the word knitted, but most of those have to do with Jewish law and what is considered acceptable to wear, what is unclean or clean, how to make something clean, etc. So they might not be useful, but for reference, they are all in Leviticus 13 :)

larudden
08-02-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanks Meri! I appreciate your help!

Arielluria
08-03-2007, 09:52 AM
This is a great question, and one I intended on researching myself. I am fascinated by the fact that the Bible states God knits, He sews (Gen 3:7 - He sewed fig leaves for Adam & Eve, etc.), He gardens, He "planted a garden" in Gen. 2:8 ;)

The Proverbs 31 woman quote by Jeremy earlier is one of my favorites, a woman of valor works with her hands ;).........FYI, some think the woman of whom King Samuel ("Lemuel" was his mother's nickname for him) spoke of in Prov. 31 might have been his predecessor Ruth (for whom a short book of the Bible is named). Fascinating story.

But I digress.......:flirt:..........quelle surprise!

Depending on what version you search - best place to do that is www.blueletterbible.com (http://www.blueletterbible.com) to search different versions.....you find about 5 or 6 references each. For a more in-depth research, I highly recommend the free download E-Sword (http://www.e-sword.net), with which you can search the synonyms (i.e. sew, weave, hooks, etc.):

NASB:
1Sa 18:1 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=1Sa&c=18&v=1&version=NASB#1) Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself.

Job 10:11 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Job&c=10&v=11&version=NASB#11) Clothe me with skin and flesh, And knit me together with bones and sinews?

Job 40:17 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Job&c=40&v=17&version=NASB#17) "He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together.

Lam 1:14 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Lam&c=1&v=14&version=NASB#14) "The yoke of my transgressions is bound; By His hand they are knit together. They have come upon my neck; He has made my strength fail. The Lord has given me into the hands Of {those against whom} I am not able to stand.

Col 2:2 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Col&c=2&v=2&version=NASB#2) that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and {attaining} to all the wealth that comes from the full assurance of understanding, {resulting} in a true knowledge of God's mystery, {that is,} Christ {Himself,}

Additionally, KJV has:
Jdg 20:11 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Jdg&c=20&v=11&version=KJV#11) So all the men of Israel were gathered against the city, knit together as one man.

1Ch 12:17 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=1Ch&c=12&v=17&version=KJV#17) And David went out to meet them, and answered and said unto them, If ye be come peaceably unto me to help me, mine heart shall be knit unto you: but if [ye be come] to betray me to mine enemies, seeing [there is] no wrong in mine hands, the God of our fathers look [thereon], and rebuke [it].

Act 10:11 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Act&c=10&v=11&version=KJV#11) And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Col 2:19 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Col&c=2&v=19&version=KJV#19) And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.


I'm not known for getting to the point............so forgive me if this is TMI.....too much information.....:teehee:......believe it or not, this is all just the tip of the iceberg.
:whistle:

ishy
08-03-2007, 10:31 AM
This is from The Message Bible, which ordinarily isn't my favorite, but I think this is appropriate:

Proverbs 27:26 You can knit sweaters from lambs' wool, and sell your goats for a profit

tmsl
08-03-2007, 01:21 PM
I know the shout went out to your Christian friends but I hope I'll do.:)

A woman of valor who can find....
She seeks out wool and linen, and her hands work willingly..
(Proverbs)
What is the actual chapter and verse?

Thanks

tmsl
08-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I Found it!! Thanks

Jeremy
08-03-2007, 02:05 PM
The woman of valor is actually a very well known Bible verse for Jews. Its Hebrew title is Eyshet Chayil and its sung every friday night at the Sabbath table by the husband to his wife. Its also looked on as a metaphor for the Sabbath itself.
Here is a little clip I found on Youtube of a groom singing a little bit of it to his new bride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q-XOqjgofk

Arielluria
08-03-2007, 05:27 PM
That is SO romantic!!!! Thanks! How is it a metaphor for the Sabbath? Also, the fact he sings it on a Friday night......does that sort of "kick off" the Sabbath?

Shalom!

Arielluria
08-03-2007, 05:39 PM
Oh, I forgot to post earlier..........don't forget ALL the Biblical references to craftsmanship and how the gifts of craftsmanship are from the Lord. Specifically I am thinking of the construction of the Tabernacle as explained in detail by God how it all should be done in the book of Exodus - every skill from working with gold, carpentry, spinning, etc.

Exo 35:31 "And He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding and in knowledge and in all craftsmanship;
Exo 35:32 to make designs for working in gold and in silver and in bronze,
Exo 35:33 and in the cutting of stones for settings and in the carving of wood, so as to perform in every inventive work.

Also:
Exo 35:35 " He has filled them with skill to perform every work of an engraver and of a designer and of an embroiderer, in blue and in purple {and} in scarlet {material,} and in fine linen, and of a weaver, as performers of every work and makers of designs.

Exo 35:26 All the women whose heart stirred with a skill spun the goats' {hair.}

Exodus chapters 35 & 36 are scattered with such verses.

Jeremy
08-03-2007, 06:20 PM
It is kind of romantic. Its one of the things that kick off the Shabbat at home.Traditionally, a Jewish woman lights at least two candles to bring in the Sabbath. A lot of the time men bring flowers home too. There is a nice meal on the table and sometimes we sing hymns about the Sabbath at the table. The traditional metaphor for the Sabbath is that of a queen or bride. In synagogue we sing a hymn called Lecha dodi, Come my beloved to greet the bride-the Sabbath presence, let us welcome. The last verse is

Enter in peace, O crown of her husband,
Even in gladness and good cheer
Among the faithful of the treasured nation
Enter O bride, Enter O bride.

When that verse is sung, all of the congregants get up and turn toward the rear of the synagogue as if an actual bride were coming down the aisle.

(Sorry for hijacking the post)

Arielluria
08-03-2007, 06:52 PM
Jeremy, this is a welcomed hijack (from my perspective) - but entirely my fault, I'm the one that led it down the hijacked path! ;)

I study Scripture from a Jewish perspective (Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum (http://www.ariel.org) & Dr. Chuck Missler (http://www.khouse.org) and others). This is enlightening in the point of view of the Church as the bride, and the Sabbath (rest) which we will have when Jesus comes for His bride. Thanks! I will discuss it with my Missler study online group.

And now back to our scheduled thread..............:happydance:

VickiIL
08-04-2007, 12:14 PM
I love the proverbs woman of valor. When my husband and i got engaged he gave me a rubies because proverbs says she is worth more than rubies.

Thanks for sharing how this verse is part of the Jewish Sabbath, Jeremy. I agree it is romantic.

Arielluria
08-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Vick, that is so sweet of your hubby!
:flirt:

sinistral_needler
08-10-2007, 04:15 PM
Just throwing something out there .. I have not read Song of Solomon lately but I do remember is about a husband and wife having a proverb duel so to speak about how wonderful the other is .. in some translations it may sound totally awkward .. in others it sounds practially like a porno .. but there may be something in there about how the woman does great things with hard work or something. Just a thought!!!

Arielluria
08-10-2007, 04:18 PM
LOL, we'll have to look that one up......I know there is very sexy language in Song of Solomon but don't recall this "duel". I do believe the happiest marriage is one where each spouse thinks he/she got better than they deserve. :heart:......I know I did! I won't speak for DH, but let's just say we've been married nearly 20 years and sometimes people still think we're newlyweds.

P.S. Congrats on your new blog. I will link to my lengthy list of knitting blogs on mine so I can check it out from time to time! ;)

sinistral_needler
08-10-2007, 04:29 PM
LOL, we'll have to look that one up......I know there is very sexy language in Song of Solomon but don't recall this "duel".

P.S. Congrats on your new blog. I will link to my lengthy list of knitting blogs on mine so I can check it out from time to time! ;)

Ok, duel may have been the wrong word but I was coming up with a loss at the moment when I typed it up.:eyes:

Thanks for the blog notice. It may not be fancy but it is meee!

sinistral_needler
08-10-2007, 04:46 PM
Ok, I just took a quick read through the book and there isn't anything there about how great the woman's work is, just the man talking about how great the woman's body is.



If only there would be someone like that for me .. maybe Fabio? I was always a sucker for an accent!!

Oh wait .. I'd have to have a great body first .. nevermind.

Arielluria
08-10-2007, 07:36 PM
Fabio never did it for me, I'd prefer Tom Selleck myself ;)

And hey, don't cut yourself short......it takes all kinds, types, colors, and sizes........just like knitting :happydance:Your body's just fine. Remember, there's a time and a place.........make that a yarn and a project for a size 2 needle in "ultrafine" yarn, and there's a place and project for the "chunky" size 15 needles :teehee:

I hope you get the metaphor. Very few of us measure up to the fictional ideal of womanly figure created by the media!
:muah:



Ok, I just took a quick read through the book and there isn't anything there about how great the woman's work is, just the man talking about how great the woman's body is.



If only there would be someone like that for me .. maybe Fabio? I was always a sucker for an accent!!

Oh wait .. I'd have to have a great body first .. nevermind.

larudden
08-13-2007, 08:28 AM
I'm lovin' this thread! Thanks everyone!

psammeadred
08-14-2007, 10:40 PM
Proverbs 31:21 (King James Version) She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

I think it would be neat to put a stitch or two of red in everything I make for my family.

Jeremy
08-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Just throwing something out there .. I have not read Song of Solomon lately but I do remember is about a husband and wife having a proverb duel so to speak about how wonderful the other is .. in some translations it may sound totally awkward .. in others it sounds practially like a porno .. but there may be something in there about how the woman does great things with hard work or something. Just a thought!!!

There are actually two different books of the Bible referenced here. The "woman of valor" reference is from Proverbs. The "Song of Soloman" is actually titled Shir ha shirim in Hebrew, Song of Songs, an entirely separate book. It is supposed to be a metaphor for Israel and God and that's why it was included in the Bible despite some language that some might see as a little racy.Proverbs, Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes were all, by Jewish tradition, written by Soloman. The difference in outlook is accounted for by the age he was when he wrote them. Song of Songs was written when he was a young man, Ecclesiastes (Kohelet in Hebrew) was written when he was old.

redheadrachel
08-15-2007, 09:43 PM
Proverbs 31:21 (King James Version) She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

I think it would be neat to put a stitch or two of red in everything I make for my family.

OH my goodness!!! What a cool idea!!!!!!

mamid
08-16-2007, 12:27 AM
There is a verse in the new testament during or after the crucifiction where they are dividing his clothes and one piece can't be divided because there are no seams. That sounds like something knit on DPNs or crocheted to me.

redheadrachel
08-16-2007, 01:18 AM
There is a verse in the new testament during or after the crucifiction where they are dividing his clothes and one piece can't be divided because there are no seams. That sounds like something knit on DPNs or crocheted to me.
I've heard that before, but I don't think they had knitting quite that early, did they? There are some Renaissance paintings that depict Mary knitting baby Jesus a seamless garment on dpns, though :)