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Arielluria
08-24-2007, 04:10 PM
I went to a HL last week and what do I see on the door? But a sign informing me that they "reserve the right to search anyone"!!!!!!!!!:noway: EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME?!?!?

I have nothing to hide and they definitely have a right to search someone they have evidence of stealing once they are in the store.........but to be subjected to arbitrary searches at their whim???????????????????

I think not! I have a good mind to send them a letter letting them know I have a right to go buy my yarn and art supplies at Michael's!
:out:

Just venting!

chillawilla
08-24-2007, 04:17 PM
I hope they meant search any bags you are carrying.

How very unfriendly.:hmm:

kemp
08-24-2007, 04:24 PM
Mine has that sign too. Must have a lot of trouble with shrinkage.

Maddison
08-24-2007, 04:31 PM
Note to self, when lonely, go to Hobby Lobby. :blooby:

sinistral_needler
08-24-2007, 04:32 PM
Oh, that is a shame that a store has such a theft problem that they have to search people. I wonder if they have the option of installing those loud-screechy-beepy things at the exits that can detect a product being heisted. (I hope you know what I mean, they are at places like Target and other stores too.)

katiebug081504
08-24-2007, 04:36 PM
Personally...(I do love some things at hobby lobby), but the store kind of pisses me off. Some of the yarn they have is priced differently (FOR THE SAME EXACT YARN!), and they don't have the scanners at the cash registers...hello, it's 2007! I think it's kind of scammish. Have the same yarn with different prices...no scanners..easy to get away with it. Be sure to check for the lowest priced yarn if you buy it!

Arielluria
08-24-2007, 04:37 PM
I hope they meant search any bags you are carrying.

How very unfriendly.:hmm:First of all, ain't nobody searching my purse for no reason! If the cops need probably cause, then so does Hobby Lobby!

If they mean the bags with stuff I've purchased at HL (and am on my way out the door), same thing goes! Once I've paid my hard earned money for it, it MY property and without probable cause (that is, me on a security camera sticking things in my purse - which, of course, I would never do), then they better keep their hands off!
:tap:
Don't mess with Texans...........even immigrant ones ;)

sinistral_needler
08-24-2007, 04:43 PM
I do wish that the stores in general would get an upgrade. I love going to mine but the store is old and kind of icky. And they are deficient on the scanning technology too.

Sometimes, you have to spend money to make money .. more people will want to go to a nicer store!!!!

Silver
08-24-2007, 05:21 PM
I think the sign is worded poorly. I would hope they mean they will search someone IF they have reason to, like if someone was observed acting suspiciously, and not just because you're wearing green today.

PaperGirl
08-24-2007, 05:24 PM
Personally...(I do love some things at hobby lobby), but the store kind of pisses me off. Some of the yarn they have is priced differently (FOR THE SAME EXACT YARN!), and they don't have the scanners at the cash registers...hello, it's 2007! I think it's kind of scammish. Have the same yarn with different prices...no scanners..easy to get away with it. Be sure to check for the lowest priced yarn if you buy it!



I go there alot when the needles go on 50% off...and I admit, Im sure I annoy the piss out of them, but I hover and make for SURE they discount me. They've messed up my totals before. :fingerwag:

kellyh57
08-24-2007, 06:49 PM
I wonder if they have the option of installing those loud-screechy-beepy things at the exits that can detect a product being heisted. (I hope you know what I mean, they are at places like Target and other stores too.)

I work at Michaels and we have a lot of theft in our store, but there is nothing the employees can do about it. Nowadays you don't know what the person will do to you. I've heard stories of people putting stuff in their bag right in front of someone, the employee telling them they saw it, asking them to pay for it, and if they don't comply, that's it. You let them walk out. If you accuse them of something, you never know if you'll get shot or beat up!

As far as the alarm system, you have to put a sticker or something on each package. The high value item that's frequently stolen at our store is the crystal beads. All the customer has to do is pull off the packaging/sticker and take the beads. There's no way to make it work. The high dollar large items are locked up (Cricut, airbrushes, etc.) You would not believe how high the theft is our store. It's so sad. I can't believe how many people that don't care about laws or other's property! Crazy world we live in!

Kelly

Aello
08-24-2007, 06:51 PM
Note to self, when lonely, go to Hobby Lobby. :blooby:
You made me laugh so hard lol. thank you I needed that!:rofl:

Quiltlady
08-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Those stores are not in my area at all. I'm not even sure there are any in New York State.:tap: I've never been in one. I only have ACMoore, Joanns and a Michael's.

mulene
08-24-2007, 07:12 PM
First of all, ain't nobody searching my purse for no reason! If the cops need probably cause, then so does Hobby Lobby!



Don't ever come to the UK then :P There are a TON of places here that search you on entry - gotta keep an eye out for terrorists y'know. I don't mind being searched, I have nothing to hide so I have no reason to worry.

debinoz
08-24-2007, 10:00 PM
What I don't like about HL is that they're not open on Sundays. (Day of rest, time for worship with family) BUT that's about the only day I'm able to make it since it's about 40 miles away and I can visit my mom that day because she doesn't have dialysis. I have to plan a special trip otherwise. Michaels is open Sundays, but that store is really run down.

LilHuskiesFootBallMom
08-24-2007, 10:33 PM
Once again: punish everyone for the actions of a few too many.

I'll stick to shopping at Micheals in Saratoga or Albany or Joann's (also in Albany)

laikabear
08-24-2007, 11:01 PM
I had never heard of Hobby Lobby before coming to KH... I looked at their website - no stores in California. Guess I will have to find somewhere else to go when lonely. :wink:

Aliann
08-24-2007, 11:17 PM
I'll stick to the store I used to work for, Ben Frankin's

IrishKnitter
08-24-2007, 11:21 PM
I think the sign is worded poorly. I would hope they mean they will search someone IF they have reason to, like if someone was observed acting suspiciously, and not just because you're wearing green today.

I think that's what they really mean...I imagine they just have to phrase it the way they do for legal reasons. I'm sure they really aren't going to search people for no reason.

In fact, most retail stores are EXTREMELY careful about doing anything to catch a shoplifter. Usually, they just want the items back...they don't want to press charges because it is expensive. And obviously, if you falsely or incorrectly accuse someone of shoplifting, I would say that you've lost that customer's business.

feministmama
08-24-2007, 11:39 PM
KellyH57 don't they have cameras at your Micheals? Can't you call the cops? I mean people can just steal things and no one does anything about it? What store do you work at again?:teehee:

ready2knit
08-25-2007, 12:34 AM
I don't mean to sound like a snob, but I went to a HL once, and that was enough for me. The place was dirty, big and had poor service. This just adds another reason to the list why I won't shop there.

I don't go to Micheals either because of the poor service I've received in IA and PA. (No offense to those who work and or shop there.:muah:)

Jana

kellyh57
08-25-2007, 12:55 AM
KellyH57 don't they have cameras at your Micheals? Can't you call the cops? I mean people can just steal things and no one does anything about it? What store do you work at again?:teehee:

No video cameras. Most smaller stores don't have cameras. They may have things that look like cameras, but it's very expensive and hard to actually monitor. We could call the cops, but by the time they get there, it's too late. I've heard friends that work at other retail stores with very similar stories. I used to work at Kmart and we even had security, but very few shoplifters were actually caught due to lack of hardcore "proof."

Kelly

DQ
08-25-2007, 05:48 AM
Don't ever come to the UK then :P There are a TON of places here that search you on entry - gotta keep an eye out for terrorists y'know. I don't mind being searched, I have nothing to hide so I have no reason to worry.

Where? I've never been searched yet! Maybe it's worse in London?

Knitting_Guy
08-25-2007, 07:55 AM
The truth is that they can't legally search you or anyone else without your consent. They have no more authority than any other citizen and the sign is just a bluff. Only a duly sworn police officer can do this.

In order to affect a citizen's arrest one has to actually witness the commission of a felony crime and shoplifting doesn't qualify.

Legally, if one refuses a search their only recourse is to call the police. They can't legally detain you against your will in any way or they open themselves up to a lawsuit or even criminal charges.

Of course if you actually consent to the search that's a different story, but they still open themselves up to civil suit.

hunterjenn
08-25-2007, 12:22 PM
Actually, I'm not sure that's true. I believe, by posting the sign at the entry, they are actually allowed to search if necessary. If you've been warned upon entry, you're accepting it as a condition of entering the store. Could be wrong, but my dad works as a lawyer for a large retail corp...I'm pretty sure I'm remembering it right.

That said, that's probably the ONLY reason the sign is there--because they thought they had cause to search someone they suspected of shoplifting, and ended up in a legal battle over it. Just like the asinine warning labels on many products, the notice is only there because it turned out to be necessary...that's my guess, anyway.

I worked for several years at a Hancock Fabrics, and one particular group of ladies came in once a year and stole from us every time. Didn't matter how carefully we watched...they always made off with a few things. :shrug: From a retailer's point of view, I can see why they're reserving the right. But I don't think it would keep me from shopping somewhere.

McKnitty
08-25-2007, 01:05 PM
Some of the yarn they have is priced differently (FOR THE SAME EXACT YARN!), and they don't have the scanners at the cash registers...hello, it's 2007! I think it's kind of scammish. Have the same yarn with different prices...no scanners..easy to get away with it. Be sure to check for the lowest priced yarn if you buy it!


I haven't seen a sign like that at my HL, well not yet anyway. I don't like the idea of being searched, but yet I do understand it from the retailers point of view. However, they can go too far to the point it gets to be insulting and they will start to lose customers.

I don't buy yarn there very often, but I have also noticed that the same-brand of yarns are priced differently. Why? I've also noticed that some of the yarns are very dusty, so maybe they've been on the shelf for a long time.

Kels Joy.
08-26-2007, 04:05 PM
Note to self, when lonely, go to Hobby Lobby. :blooby:

ha, i was definately thinking the same thing. :teehee:

stitchwitch
08-26-2007, 07:13 PM
I wish someone would try and search my purse. Who knows what lurks in that thing. :roflhard::roflhard:They'd have that memory forever burned in their psyche.

Gloriapike
08-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Ironically, the Hobby Lobby here in Cheyenne is not a bad store... It's not high-end, to be sure, but it's not run down and most of the employees are friendly and helpful.

I go there to buy cheap yarn sometimes, but mostly I buy art supplies (markers, pens, paintbrushes) there because it's the ONLY art supply store in town.

salos
08-26-2007, 11:46 PM
I really, really like it that Hobby Lobby isn't open on Sundays and late at night. It's so hard on employees and their families when people have to work at those times. Besides, it's a Christian business and they have the right to celebrate their faith. :yay:

One thing I esp. like about HL is that my husband likes it. We can both spend time and money there most happily. It's not like JoAnn's which he will not even go into.

EssenceRose
08-27-2007, 07:03 AM
I don't recommend coming to New Zealand then, either. Over here, you are subject to search at most stores. I don't object to it --- one, because I have nothing to hide and two, because it's just expected of you that once you walk in the door and see the signs posted notifying you that you accept those are the terms of the store.

Even the stores with the security alarms that beep when you walk out if you have a stolen item still have security guards at the door to search your bags...

It's also a term that everyone must leave all school bags at the front counter when entering the store and they can pick them up on the way out. I'm surprised by how many people are against a policy that a store reserves the right to search for stolen items... Not that I am putting down your point of view at all. I was just genuinely surprised.

becjo
08-27-2007, 03:03 PM
I really like my HL - its nice, big, clean - can't complain. I always wondered myself why they dont have scanners but I've never had problems with any prices being different. I dont see how they can keep track of everything on sale though - my mind would be warped!

But I'm sure it meant they had a reason to search for any reason of being suspicious. HL is a Christian based store so I dont think they're going to try & offend anyone or make someone look dumb for any reason.

I love HL's 40% off coupons - I'm there every other week when they have those things!