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Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:02 PM
I was hesitant to even post this here but I feel like the folks here are more kin to me, loving, and understanding than anywhere else.

I inherited the genetic disposition for depression from my father, who died from the illness when I was 10. I've been on medication for it a couple of times although I've never found it to help all that much.

It comes and it goes. Tonight it comes. I'm a big guy, a tough guy, but tonight I feel like crying for no reason at all. What a wimp!

The only reason I am writing this is to try and get it outside of myself, if that makes any sense, and to make some human contact as remote as it is over the net, to try and maintain some grasp on that which makes life worth living.

Just ignore this post and go on about your business, it's just an attempt to put my feelings outside of myself as they shouldn't belong to me in the first place. Sorry to take up bandwidth.

stirsmommy
09-29-2007, 11:05 PM
Mason,
It isn't wimpy to cry. And I think it is very admirable that you recognize the feelings and reached out to us. Wish I could say something profound but I can't think of a thing. (Taking to much benadryl to stop the itch of poison oak) Tomorrow will be another day. Could you watch a funny movie or something that will take your mind off of things?

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:08 PM
Mason,
It isn't wimpy to cry. And I think it is very admirable that you recognize the feelings and reached out to us. Wish I could say something profound but I can't think of a thing. (Taking to much benadryl to stop the itch of poison oak) Tomorrow will be another day. Could you watch a funny movie or something that will take your mind off of things?


Thanks. I cant' say my mind is on anything to take it off from. Just a general feeling of sadness I can't shake. Pretty wimpy as far as I am concerned.

DianaM
09-29-2007, 11:09 PM
Mason, I know how you feel.
I battled chronic depression for 14 years and even though i'm out of the chronic phase, I fall back into it often.
Medically speaking, I have a reason for it, but it still makes me mad when it happens.
Have a good cry, try to relax and remember that we're always here to lend a hand. :hug:

Blissknits
09-29-2007, 11:09 PM
Well, crud, knittingguy. I'm sorry you feel that way. Depression runs in my family. Its tough.

First of all, *you* have value. Yup, you. So hang in there.

Secondly, you might want to think about giving meds another try. It is very difficult to find the right med/right dose/right combination. But if you do, it is so, so, so worth it.

I don't take them myself. But my mother does. And a very dear friend of mine is schizophrenic. And honestly, they have tough days, but I still have them around because of the medication they're on. And honestly, most of the time - they have good days.

They were both resistant to medication, because of the side affects, and/or they felt "weak" for having to take them. But I can't even tell you how much I would miss them if they were gone.
((hugs))
Bliss

PS. I think it says something about you that you answered about lamps for me when you were feeling down.

stirsmommy
09-29-2007, 11:13 PM
Thanks. I cant' say my mind is on anything to take it off from. Just a general feeling of sadness I can't shake. Pretty wimpy as far as I am concerned.

I know the feeling. I hate it but have never had the guts to try the meds. My temp fixes are chocolate and doing something mindless yet engrossing which for me a crosswords. Sometimes I will play puzzle games online too. For some reason I can get involved in them enough to relax and sleep. Which at least recharges me to face whatever I feel like the next day.
As to not feeling wimpy about I think that perhaps a change in paradigm is in order. You do have a reason for it. You may not know what triggered it tonight but you is in your dna your were programmed to be this way. So that is definitely not wimpy.

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Thanks folks, I already am sorry I posted this here. It's not knitting related nor is it your problem. Please pardon this whole post.

Riss
09-29-2007, 11:17 PM
*offers a hug and a shoulder to cry on* Having a good cry can be theraputic. Just curl up and let it all out. Shout, scream, beat pillows, sob. And then know that we're here for you when you're ready to talk... even if it's just to show you yarn p0rn until you smile.

It'll be okay Mason. We all have times like this. At least you've accepted it for what it is. Most people can't even get that far.

*hug*

DianaM
09-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Thanks folks, I already am sorry I posted this here. It's not knitting related nor is it your problem. Please pardon this whole post.

You're one of our guys. Period :wink:

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Just curl up and let it all out. Shout, scream, beat pillows, sob.

Thanks, while I appreciate it I just can't do that. I really can't explain why other than just I'm a guy.

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:20 PM
You're one of our guys. Period :wink:


:rofl: Thanks

Riss
09-29-2007, 11:21 PM
Take your needles to a pillow? :D

Anyway... Just know that we're here for you..

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:22 PM
Take your needles to a pillow? :D

Anyway... Just know that we're here for you..

Thanks. That means a lot

Ingrid
09-29-2007, 11:24 PM
Don't regret posting, please. It is good to vent--to put it out there so it just doesn't sit and cook.

I grew up with my father being horribly depressed. After his first heart attack, he got on meds and was a changed person.

I carried around my own depression for years, and finally broke down and saw a doc and got on meds. It took a while, I don't have any side effects, and on most days I feel better.

There were many days when I sat with my face in my hands, though.

stirsmommy
09-29-2007, 11:25 PM
Thanks, while I appreciate it I just can't do that. I really can't explain why other than just I'm a guy.
Ok that one nearly made me shoot pepsi out my nose. You are not a stereotypical guy since you knit in truck stops (well at least that is how I see you) but if you want to be macho I guess the guy thing is to go hit something. How about punching your seats in your truck. Technically it is hitting and I think they will have enough give that you won't damage your hand. I am trying to think like a guy but I am afraid on the benadryl I am not thinking much at all.

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:32 PM
Ok that one nearly made me shoot pepsi out my nose. You are not a stereotypical guy since you knit in truck stops (well at least that is how I see you) but if you want to be macho I guess the guy thing is to go hit something. How about punching your seats in your truck. Technically it is hitting and I think they will have enough give that you won't damage your hand. I am trying to think like a guy but I am afraid on the benadryl I am not thinking much at all.

Actually hitting is how I dealt with it for years, but it was usually some other guy's skull I was hitting (not always though, I once put my fist through a cinder block wall). Arthritis is starting to set into my hands as a result of beating them against other people's heads over the years. I'm trying to turn over that new leaf as that's not the person I want to be.

stirsmommy
09-29-2007, 11:39 PM
Actually hitting is how I dealt with it for years, but it was usually some other guy's skull I was hitting (not always though, I once put my fist through a cinder block wall). Arthritis is starting to set into my hands as a result of beating them against other people's heads over the years. I'm trying to turn over that new leaf as that's not the person I want to be.

Ok it may sound funny but here is what I do when I feel the need to whack a wall (I can't my figers dislocate to easily) I buy a box of Kleenex and throw them one at a time. Not too messy and nothing gets damaged. YOu can throw as hard as you want. Just a thought.

DianaM
09-29-2007, 11:40 PM
I did my share of hitting, but the things that helped me the most when I was going through bad moments were writing, drawing and acting.

Ever tried keeping a journal? Offline, hehe. It doesn't matter what you write in it, just write. Train of thought. At some point you'll start letting out the stuff that's in you.
Acting was a good tool too. Specially when we had improvs. Oooooo vulgar improvs.......yuuuumy, I miss those days. Our director didn't know what hit him when asked us to try acting vulgar.

Knitting_Guy
09-29-2007, 11:40 PM
Ok it may sound funny but here is what I do when I feel the need to whack a wall (I can't my figers dislocate to easily) I buy a box of Kleenex and throw them one at a time. Not too messy and nothing gets damaged. YOu can throw as hard as you want. Just a thought.

:rofl:

sugarfunpouch
09-30-2007, 12:06 AM
Philosophy time!
When life throws you lemons,throw them back and say, "Hey I want chocolate!"
Trust me it works. You may not realize it, but it does. :hug: :blooby:

newamy
09-30-2007, 12:32 AM
Well, I'm sorry you are going through all this. I'm no expert but I think these things can help:They are practical and non-medicinal (and non hitting) approaches. 1) take a walk every day even if you don't feel like it. Think of it like taking medicine. 2) eat better- difficult to do in truck stops, but increase fruits and veggies, cut sugar, simple carbs, and alcohol. 3) Keep a journal as someone suggested. 4) and try to interact with pleasant people every day that make you feel happy and relaxed- in person. 5) Knit.

Good luck.

jdee
09-30-2007, 01:20 AM
I just want you to know that I battle depression, and have for a long time. Right now I'm in the middle of changing meds, so I've been emotional, and sometimes grumpy. And there's no real reason for it. My husband and I will be sitting on the couch, watching a tv show...just as normal and happy as can be, then all of a sudden, for no reason at all, I feel sad, and want to cry. My Dr told me that I may be bipolar, but I've never had a manic episode in my life, so I'm not sure I agree with that.

Anyway, I can't offer you any explanations or solutions to why you feel this way, but I just wanted you to know that you're not alone. Someone else knows exactly how you feel. If you're like me, it'll pass. It may take a day or two, but it WILL pass. Hang in there.:) Do some knitting, take a walk, buy some yarn...just do something just for you. something that makes you happy.

LindaB2603
09-30-2007, 01:30 AM
I do believe that men have a harder time with depression than women do because they just don't feel they can express their feelings.

It helps to get it out. I hope it will help to know that although you are not personally with us we wish we could be there to offer a hug and a sincere wish of getting through this.

I have battled depression since childhood. Some days are worse than others. Medication has helped me tremendously to stay a bit more level--not such extreme lows. I hope you can find something to work for you.

Take care. Tomorrow hopefully will be a better day.

jeanius80
09-30-2007, 01:43 AM
mason,
i hope you are feeling less alone. i know how you feel. i spend a better part of my day online, and mostly so i don't feel so alone. I don't have transportation, so meeting up with other knitters only happens once a week, and only if dh gets home early enough for me to go.
i get sad a lot for no reason. i am fairly certain it's mild depression. as soon as dd is weaned i am planning on seeing a doc. i just don't know if we can afford it.
often i just bury my face and scream into my pillow. hit it some, and calm myself down. sometimes i cry until i feel better. it's hard to deal with b/c i don't want my dd to see it and get scared. it doesn't happen everyday, and sometimes i can go a week or two w/o the build up. it all depends a lot on our financial stressors at the time.

anyhow. feel better! :hug:

Jan in CA
09-30-2007, 01:59 AM
First of all do NOT feel bad, silly, guilty or any other adjectives for posting this here! My belief is you feel what you feel and when you own up to it then you can start healing. We are all here for each other! :hug::hug::hug:

That said.. please to consider meds again. If one doesn't work you try another till you find one that works. Our chemistry is all different so what works for one person may not for another. I've also heard many, many times that physical activity is very helpful. Maybe something to do with endorphins? Whatever it is try taking a brisk walk once a day whenever possible. It can't hurt and it might help. And don't forget to come to your knitting buddies for a virtual hug when you can't get one for real. :hug::hug::hug:

KnittingNat
09-30-2007, 05:16 AM
I can't really say anything new, because everyone expressed my thoughts already, so i'll just give you a big hug :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:!

thalia326
09-30-2007, 07:32 AM
Knitting_Guy, first of all, I'd like to thank you...for a variety of reasons, really. I clicked on 'off-topic' because I was going to post a very similar post as you. I recently re-married and moved to England from Los Angeles- normally a good thing, right? Fresh start, new life...fantastic! The thing is, I am not working due to needing my spousal visa which has turned into a monstrous headache. I've always had a job, something to do which kept my mind from wandering and also gave me the opportunity to meet people...which leads to the next issue - few friends. I've always made friends at or through work so without that job, there haven't been too many friend opps. I've been trying for 3 months to get a knit group together but it seems there are no knitters near me (though I finally got a bite on a post I'd put on another website...yay!). With no job, I don't feel I have my own money and have always felt guilty spending someone else's. We do fine on my husband's salary but I like knowing I'm contributing financially. Adding to the above is that my husband works for an international airline and is away 3 1/2 days a week. Hardly all problems in most people's eyes but in my world it's been a hard blow as I've always worked and made my own way. So what do I get out of all of this? A mild depression, it would seem. I've been the same KG: sad for seemingly no reason, weepy (NOT to be confused with "wimpy"!), and just an overall feeling of "blah". Food doesn't taste as good as it should; I've felt reclusive because I don't want anyone to see me like this, especially when Weepy Dwarf comes to visit (I do wish he'd bring some Ben & Jerry's); I've been watching way too much tv, spending way too much time on the internet, and way too little time knitting; and worst of all, my husband is certainly being affected by all of this as it's not only food that doesn't excite me like it used to. It's not him, it's me (that does sound cheesy, doesn't it?) and deep down I think he knows that but it sure doesn't help his psyche much. Having my dog with me, especially when my husband is gone, has been very helpful but there ain't much conversation there.

Hopefully, the visa will be sorted this week and I'll be able to work soon, but I'm still down and feeling kinda helpless, to be honest. I had to fly BACK to LA to get the visa from the British embassy as they won't allow an expat to go the embassy in the UK to do it. Just adds to the whole ' I need my own money' thing.

I said all that to say this: Knitting_Guy, you are NOT a wimp because you feel the need to cry. We all, men included, have got to let that buildup go and sometimes a good cry is just what we need. The fact that you were man enough to express it on here was a huge step in moving past what you're feeling now. Don't feel bad about taking time from the knitting post - there must be a reason for the 'off topic' post in the first place and clearly some caring people who check it as well. I'm personally glad to have found it.

Seems as though there's a lot of support here. I'm happy that there's a go-to for knitting help where I actually get timely responses to questions I've posted, unlike another site I was using. And I'm especially happy to see how many caring and concerned folks there are when someone is having a problem, knitting related or not. Keep sharing your feelings KG, whether here or in a journal, as mentioned. I write a lot - I call it "brain vomit" because one way or another, it needs to come out.

Take care and know that we're all here for one another.

Oh, and thanks for letting me vent.

:grphug:

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 08:10 AM
Thanks everyone, a good night's sleep works wonders. I've had a bit of a bug for a few days and I think it was wearing me down.

stirsmommy
09-30-2007, 09:14 AM
Good I am glad the sleep help. I got on here to see how you were doing this morning. Take care of yourself today. Indulge if you can. Take a nap too if you aren't on a tight deadline.

Ingrid
09-30-2007, 10:20 AM
BUY YARN!!!!!

Sissy
09-30-2007, 10:29 AM
Mason,
I am sorry you are suffering.I for 1 look forward to seeing your post on the board,your sense of humor is great. I love your knitting.............Take it one day at a time and tell yourself THIS TO SHALL PASS.I know it sounds silly, but it works. Delve into a good book sometimes...........Sissy :muah::muah:

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 12:15 PM
Good I am glad the sleep help. I got on here to see how you were doing this morning. Take care of yourself today. Indulge if you can. Take a nap too if you aren't on a tight deadline.


Thanks, napping is very high on my to do list today. I get to loaf all day today and plan to make the best of it.

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 12:15 PM
BUY YARN!!!!!


Stash therapy? :rofl:

Pat in Ca
09-30-2007, 12:18 PM
I have family members who have been on and off medication
for this sickness..I have been told that it is a chemical reaction in the body that creates this "cloud" as they describe it..It takes real courage to talk about and face this problem...Most people are hurting inside from one thing or another.. but not courageous enough to admit it..I do think that meds have helped one of my family members, but another doesn't like them.. has tried everything..I was told that it has something to do with a hormone(I forget which one) that is out of whack.. sometimes that hormone deficiency causes acute anxiety in some people, in other people depression...I have both problems in my family..anxiety and depression are linked.. So, I think it is a physical problem that displays itself as a mental one..So, it is difficult to control things that are beyond your control.. One family member was not doing well with the generic drug and the "real" thing did the trick.. I would see a professional.. new things are coming out..
By the way.. I so do love your dry sense of humor!!

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 12:40 PM
I have family members who have been on and off medication
for this sickness..I have been told that it is a chemical reaction in the body that creates this "cloud" as they describe it..It takes real courage to talk about and face this problem...Most people are hurting inside from one thing or another.. but not courageous enough to admit it..I do think that meds have helped one of my family members, but another doesn't like them.. has tried everything..I was told that it has something to do with a hormone(I forget which one) that is out of whack.. sometimes that hormone deficiency causes acute anxiety in some people, in other people depression...I have both problems in my family..anxiety and depression are linked.. So, I think it is a physical problem that displays itself as a mental one..So, it is difficult to control things that are beyond your control.. One family member was not doing well with the generic drug and the "real" thing did the trick.. I would see a professional.. new things are coming out..
By the way.. I so do love your dry sense of humor!!


Thanks. Yeah, it's basically a chemical imbalance. It can be corrected with medication. the trick is in finding the right drug as everyone is different.

letah75
09-30-2007, 01:10 PM
Mason,

Every timeI see your posts I click them, you are funny, sweet, caring, insightful, and a joy.

Don't ever feel like you can't post something here....if I remember correctly this is the EXACT reason we now have an OT forum....for OT stuff.

I find this community to be a sort of church. A church is a place to worship, but also, and sometimes more importantly it's a place to find community, support, love and understanding. A good church will allow you to find all of these things from people who you don't agree with politically, someone who comes from a completely different socio-economic background, a person who is a 180 degree opposite of your experience and yet is there to say, "I love you, I trust you, I believe in you, and I will help you no matter what." That is why I believe KH is church like.

Too often in this world we find ourselves in the middle of a city, in the middle of a life, in the middle of millions of people, with no personal contact.

You reach out to those you can, those you know want to help, and those you feel safe with. Your job is such that you don't have many constants in your life, as far as personal contacts. KH is your constant, and in many ways you are a constant for KH. We all love and care about you. You are a complex and interesting person, and your posts often help others, I know they've helped me when I've been feeling down or having a bad day.

PLEASE NEVER feel bad about asking for understanding/help from those of us here. Turn about is fair play.

All of that being said, you have to figure out what helps you. I know...you know that. The jobs I've had in my life, and the things I've volunteered for have been very intense, and have very high burnout rates, and higher than average depression rates. I live in an extremely male dominated world and have seen many things. One conclusion I've come to is asking for help is much more manly than not....for the simple fact that .....well.....it takes balls to admit and issue/problem, and to talk about it.

Crying might not be the release you need, but please don't hold it in, please don't try to take it on yourself, and PLEASE, PLEASE don't ever feel guilty/bad/ashamed of talking to people. :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::muah::muah::mu ah::muah::hug::hug::hug::hug:

Jan in CA
09-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Well said, Letah. :hug::hug::hug:

Rorshach
09-30-2007, 01:57 PM
Mason, it's never a waste of bandwidth to mention that you have a problem here. All of us are pretty much one big family anyway. The way I see it, is if you got a problem, share it so we can help you get it solved. As others have said, you're a pretty neat guy, and like all of us guys, we're prone to our weaknesses too. Though I suppose it won't help to know this, as Jack Handy once said: It takes a big man to cry, But it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 02:15 PM
It takes a big man to cry, But it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
:roflhard:

HollyP
09-30-2007, 08:22 PM
:hug:Mason:hug: Depression is a tricky s.o.b.

Letah - very well said thank you!

Knitting_Guy
09-30-2007, 08:35 PM
Depression is a tricky s.o.b.




That's ok, so am I :mrgreen:

dagny
09-30-2007, 08:41 PM
Depression sucks, plain and simple! I'm sorry you're dealing with it too.
Hoping you find solace soon :hug:

JessicaR
09-30-2007, 09:59 PM
Welcome to my world :hug:

Doodknitwit
09-30-2007, 10:08 PM
Mason,
I enjoy your quick wit so much... Sad to hear this is a rough spot for you. hugs!!
:hug:

Lighting57
09-30-2007, 10:52 PM
When my husaband and I married 32 years ago, my mother gave us a bag of marshmellows. She said, "If you two get in a fight, throw these instead of other things at each other." She was a smart woman.

Jeremy
10-01-2007, 04:23 PM
Winston Churchill called his depression "the black dog". He took up painting and built brick walls to combat it. We knit.

Don't hesitate to write about this problem rather than suffer alone. (By the way, you are unique among us in that you have an entire trailer to haul your stash around. Go for it)

Doodknitwit
10-01-2007, 04:33 PM
you are needed here to balance all our wacky :eyes: hormones... :psst: right girls???

JessicaR
10-01-2007, 04:36 PM
Wacky hormones? What wacky hormones? Not me! :teehee:

Knitting_Guy
10-01-2007, 04:43 PM
you are needed here to balance all our wacky :eyes: hormones... :psst: right girls???

:rofl: :oo:

kym
10-01-2007, 05:44 PM
If it's genetic you really should either be on medication or you should be seeing a psycharist (sp?). I personally am on effexor xr and it's the only thing that works for me. A lot of times with medication it's trial and error until you get the right one.

Knitting_Guy
10-01-2007, 06:00 PM
If it's genetic you really should either be on medication or you should be seeing a psycharist (sp?). I personally am on effexor xr and it's the only thing that works for me. A lot of times with medication it's trial and error until you get the right one.


Thanks. I was on meds for over two years, and it did help. The doc weaned me off of them a few years ago. It comes and goes, usually when I am overly tired or ill, but it's not to the extreme it was when I went on the meds.

A big part of what I am fighting now is the chemical changes caused by trying to stop smoking. It'll eventually balance out again. (Cigarette smoke contains anti-depressant chemicals)

Jan in CA
10-01-2007, 06:38 PM
you are needed here to balance all our wacky :eyes: hormones... :psst: right girls???

What little I have left are probably all whacked out. :roflhard:

iza
10-01-2007, 08:30 PM
:hug: I never suffered from depression, but my ex-partner did (a few years ago). He was diagnosed with dysthymia, you could see it as a chronic depression. He was on heavy meds for a while because it got really bad. The meds helped him a lot and when he got better, our relationship was just not the same. I guess I had become more a counselor than a girlfriend, I didn't have a role anymore. At the end of it all I was so exhausted, I stayed single for 3 years! :teehee: But he's doing much better now, it's all that matters.

In his case it would definitely come and go, some days were better than others. It's hard to get rid of it completely, but what's important is that you know the signs and you know when/where to get help, which seems to be your case. Good luck, and you can come here anytime to tell us how you feel! :muah:

brendajos
10-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Just ignore this post and go on about your business, it's just an attempt to put my feelings outside of myself as they shouldn't belong to me in the first place. Sorry to take up bandwidth.


I am not even going to try to offer advice... it looks like you have gotten a lot here and I hope it helps... even if it is just knowing that we are all here for you and knowing that this is a safe place to talk.

I had to chuckle though that you would make that last statement and possibly expect it to be followed through on. I believe this post will be reply #54... :teehee:

:hug: for you!

dustinac
10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
:hug:Mason...I click on your topics knowing I'll get a smile...and in the other posts it's always nice to see your view and giggle...know we are here for ya!!

Letah, put it better than I ever could...:thumbsup:

spectorkitty
10-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Mason, I wish you all the best. Your words to me on my thread about my weight were very uplifting. And never feel bad about venting to anyone on here! Some of my best friends are people I met online. I've known some people only through the computer for over 7 years! and they are real to me, and are my family. I've found a great appreciation for people again, and for mankind. Sometimes you only hear about "bad" people, evil or liars or something else online, but I have had some great experiences. Anyway, I hope you are feeling better.:hug:

Knitting_Guy
10-01-2007, 09:41 PM
I had to chuckle though that you would make that last statement and possibly expect it to be followed through on. I believe this post will be reply #54... :teehee:

:hug: for you!

That's good, it was supposed to be humorous albeit subtle.

sugarfunpouch
10-01-2007, 09:58 PM
LOL!

misstialouise
10-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Mason,

My whole family struggles with depression. I was on meds for 6 months before I decided that I would have to come off them so we could have children. My son is about to turn one and I've yet to go back on them, although it is a daily fight not to just crawl into bed and ignore everything.

My knitting helps a lot with the anxiety part of my disorder, but then finding I have very little time to knit adds to my depression.

Never apologise for needing to reach out and say "I'm feeling down today". Because it isn't until you say that you find that there are a truckload of people ready to help you through what you're feeling, or even just sit and listen to you.

Having people here that know what depression is, it's good that you can without people trying to offer useless advice or platitudes that don't help.

So vent away, cry, sob, make yourself a tea and eat a dozen choccie biscuits, watch your favourite movie or just sit in the sun and knit.. do what it is that YOU need to do to find your centre and to hell with everyone else. We're always here to listen:D

dakatzmeow
10-03-2007, 09:33 PM
i'm actually on a leave of absence from work right now for stress/depression/anxiety coupled with a host of personal issues such as finances, custody, etc. it just all came crashing down at once.

i'm sorry to hear you have something slightly similar going on. unfortunately, i can relate. right now, i feel like i'm down in a big black hole and the slides are worn smooth and i can't find my way out. THIS time, i thought to grab my knitting, so i can at least knit while i wait to get out of the hole. heh.