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Deb.Sax
10-09-2007, 05:12 PM
I have a pattern that sbp in the row and the book does not even list this as a stitch so I'm trying to find out what it might be. Thanks

letah75
10-09-2007, 06:02 PM
Can you type the instruction for that row? Sometime a little more context helps. I tried to search it on google, and all I could come up with was "strategic business plan"

Could it be a typo? Do they mean "skp"

slip, knit, pass stitch over—one stitch decreased

Do you know if they want you to decrease?

Ingrid
10-09-2007, 07:42 PM
I can't find it, either. :??

Deb.Sax
10-10-2007, 03:03 PM
I will bring the pattern in tomorrow and I'll get the whole line for you. I don't think its a skp.

KnittingNat
10-10-2007, 03:44 PM
Could it be an awkward way to say "Slip stitch through Back loop, knit one, Pass slipped stitch over"?

Deb.Sax
10-11-2007, 09:01 AM
Here's Row 1: *Sl 1, k2, k2tog TBL, k1, sk2p, k1, k2tog, k2, turn, p1, p2tog, p2tog, sbp, p1, sbp, p1, turn, k5, sl1, (7 sts on right needle) Rep from * across. (175 sts). The picture looks like a scallop. There is a note at the beginning and here's what it says: On Row 1 you will be working on groups of 15 sts at a time, decreasing them to groups of 7 sts.
Thanks for your time!

suzeeq
10-11-2007, 10:39 AM
Have no clue, though it may well be slip through back of purl. And there's absolutely nothing written about it, just before the pattern instructions? How odd...

MMario
10-11-2007, 10:59 AM
whatever it is it appears to use only the single stitch; it shouldn't be a decrease given the counts.l

debinoz
10-11-2007, 11:12 AM
If it's a scallop shape, maybe the b letter has something to do with below. That would make the curve. Or... I could not really know what I'm talking about and am just trying to sound like I do! ;)

mwhite
10-11-2007, 11:53 AM
Slip needle through Back loop and Purl??? Maybe... I've been sitting here playing with it, CO 15 sts and tried the suggested explanation and the stitches did form a nice scallop, but didn't come out with 7 sts. at the end. Would love to know the answer to this mystery...

The sk2po actually forms the scallop along with the p2tog and k2tog from what I knitted.

Deb.Sax
10-11-2007, 02:57 PM
I found that it didn't come out to 7 sts either, but when I called them, they said there was only one error on the pattern and it was not this row, but they could not tell me what sbp was either, go figure. I'll try a couple of things and will let you know what I find out.

mwhite
10-11-2007, 03:20 PM
From: http://www.knittingfool.com/pages/LanguageDictionary.cfm?alpha=a&StartRow=31&PageNum=2

It should mean Slip Back Purl from this site, which by the way looks like an excellent source of information and I must thank you for digging into my brain cells and waking them up! I'll keep working on it and so now I ask: How do you Slip Back Purl???

mwhite
10-11-2007, 03:22 PM
I think I know!!!! Since you have to purl before each SBP, then it must mean you slip the purl stitch back onto the left needle and proceed to next abbreviation..... gotta run try it!!!

Not yet! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Deb.Sax
10-17-2007, 02:37 PM
Ok, so this past weekend I tried the pattern again, thought I finally had it worked out and got to the 5th row and nothing came out again. Sad to say, I've never given up on a pattern, but this one I ripped out and put in the closet. Might try it again based off some of your suggestions, it's just frustrating!

debinoz
10-17-2007, 10:57 PM
Bummer! Sorry you/we couldn't figure it out. It stinks not being able to knit something because you don't know/understand something in the pattern. Hope it works for you next time!

Ingrid
10-18-2007, 08:43 PM
It just occurred to me, and you probably tried it, that it could be slip purlwise through the back loop?

brittyknits
10-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Which book did you get if from? And author? Publisher?

debinoz
10-19-2007, 12:42 AM
In order for the st count to work out, it has to be a decrease. I fiddled around with it for a while and wondered if it was supposed to look anything like this. It has a cute open pattern in the middle, but the count worked right. Sorry for the blurry pic and hurried knitting. I got too excited when it finally worked out!

MrsDavis3
10-19-2007, 09:27 AM
debinoz, what did you actually do on your little swatch?

I don't understand why they would use sb to mean slip the needle through the back loop and purl, wouldn't you just say purl in back? Doesn't s always mean to slip a stitch, not the needle?

Deb.Sax: From whom did you get this pattern? I'd like to know so I can avoid them, as it seems to me you have not gotten good pattern support.

debinoz
10-19-2007, 11:04 AM
I have no idea what the b stands for but in my experiment the s=slip and p=pass. After the last p2 tog, I slipped the next stitch, then passed the p2t over it, p1, slip the next, and pass the p over it. The rest was exactly as written. I thought the b might stand for the back loop, but I slipped purlwise and the backloop that way comes out the same. I tried slipping tbl knitwise and it really had no effect either, other than making it tighter. I knit extremely tight anyway and some of those sts were pretty frustrating. Since I don't really know what it's supposed to look like, other than a "scallop" shape, I was just tickled the st count worked!

suzeeq
10-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Ooooooh, maybe you're supposed to pass the sl st backwards over the k2tog, and the next slip st back over the k1!

MrsDavis3
10-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Then when you turn the work...
oh heck
I'm still confused

GOOD LUCK!