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beebosmum
10-22-2007, 03:05 PM
So last night I was right on track when I posted a question about my first 'real' pattern for a baby jumper/dress that I am trying to knit. I went ahead and knitted up until I got confused again... Maybe I could get a bit more help?

The pattern calls for:
Row 8: Beg with a knit row, work 6 rows in St st.

Dec 1 st at each end of next and following 6th rows 6 more times.

I checked with you wonderful folks last night and you agreed that it meant to Dec at the beg and end of row 14 and then every sixth row for a total of six repeats. I believe this will give me a Dec on row on rows 20, 26, 32, 38, and 44.

This will end me on the rows 49 with a purl row, which is where my question comes in. The next set of instructions are:
Work 3 rows even, ending with a WS row.

If I purled row 49 and am now working on my next three rows, 50 will be knit, 51 will be purl, and 52 will be knit... how is a knit row a WS row? Did I screw something up?

Or does "work 3 rows even" mean to not St st but another stitch?

Any help would be great.

Also, i see a "thanks" area in my side profile, how do I say thanks to people?

Beebosmum

suzeeq
10-22-2007, 03:14 PM
`Work x rows even' means to work in the stitch pattern you've been using without making incs or decs. You work 3 more rows after the last dec row. You're decreasing on the knit rows, right? I think you're off a bit on which rows are which... The first dec row should be row 15, a RS row, so 6 more dec rows would put you at the end of row 45. Then 3 more rows is the end of row 48 - a wrong side row. If you've decreased on the purl rows, that's okay, just go on to the next instruction which should be on a RS row. Purl another row, it won't make a lot of difference.

brittyknits
10-22-2007, 03:14 PM
If I'm understanding correctly, your decreases are all on knit rows? If that's the case, then your last decrease row would be knit, so that leaves 1 purl row, 1 knit row, and 1 purl row, totally 3 rows even. . .am I missing something? Wasn't quite sure how you got to row 49.
But here's what you're trying to accomplish--
1. To come up with the correct number of stitches by the time you're through with all the decreasing.
2. To end with 3 stockinette stitch rows.
3. To come up with the correct length.
Do they say to end with a 52nd row? We'll figure it out.:)

beebosmum
10-22-2007, 06:17 PM
Whoa, I think the replies got me more confused than when I began... maybe I did screw up.
Let me start over with exactly where I am in the pattern just so it makes sense to me.

The instructions are:
Rows 6-7: With B, knit.
Next Row: Change to MC and beg with a knit row, work 6 rows in St. st.
Dec 1 st at each end of next and following 6th rows 6 more times - 63 sts.
Work 3 rows even, ending with a WS row.

This is what I had done so far:
Rows 6-7 I used B and knitted both rows.
Row 8 I changed to MC and knitted.
Row 9 purled
Row 10 knitted
Row 11 purled
Row 12 knitted
Row 13 purled
I am now ready to start row 14...

But with this pattern I would dec the beg and last sts of rows 14, then St st rows 15-19.
dec the beg and last sts of row 20, then St st rows 21-25.
dec the beg and last sts of row 26, then St st rows 27-31.
dec the beg and last sts of row 32, then St st rows 33-37.
dec the beg and last sts of row 38, then St st rows 39-43.
dec the beg and last sts of row 44, then St st rows 45-49.

which puts me at rows 50-53... in a knit, purl, knit pattern that is not WS...

I hope that this helps.
Any thoughts would be great, its a cute little jumper if I can ever figure it out!
Thanks again,'
Beebosmum

beebosmum
10-22-2007, 06:21 PM
okay, I just re-read the post about the 'work even' bit and I think I have that! If I end on row 49 in purl than the next 3 rows would also be purled, which would be WS.

Right?

Is something else off?

yikes...

Thanks again!
Beebosmum

brittyknits
10-22-2007, 06:56 PM
Which pattern are you using/where did you get it?

isabeau
10-22-2007, 07:19 PM
The "work 3 rows, ending with WS" bit comes after your last decrease row (rather than after a set of decrease-plus-five-rows). The decreases are always on even rows (RS), so the three rows would be odd (WS) + even + odd, ending with a WS row.

...Though it's not entirely clear to me whether there are six or one-plus-six-more (i.e. seven) decreases. How many stitches should/do you have before you start the decreases -- 70 or 69? If it's 70, I think you'll need to do a last decrease on row 50 in order to get the right stitch count.

miss_molly
10-22-2007, 07:24 PM
I think you were spot on till you got to....
dec the beg and last sts of row 44, then St st rows 45-49.

Decreasing the beginning and last stitches of row 44, that's correct. You should now have your 63 stitches.
But why did you go on to work to row 49?

Look at it this way, you have to decrease at each end of next (ie row 14) and every following 6th row, so -
Decrease on row 14, then....
Work 5 rows and decrease on row 20
Work 5 rows and decrease on row 26
Work 5 rows and decrease on row 32
Work 5 rows and decrease on row 38
Work 5 rows and decrease on row 44

By the end of row 44 you should have your 63 stitches, right? So STOP right now, no need to keep going. (Row 44 was a knit row, as were all even number rows.)

Now you are ready to Work 3 rows even, ending with a WS row meaning - work in the stitch (in your case stocking stitch) you've been using without doing any decreases -
Row 45: Purl
Row 46: Knit
Row 47: Purl

This is actually what Brittyknits was saying - If I'm understanding correctly, your decreases are all on knit rows? If that's the case, then your last decrease row would be knit, so that leaves 1 purl row, 1 knit row, and 1 purl row, totally 3 rows even. . .am I missing something? Wasn't quite sure how you got to row 49.


Hope this makes sense! Good luck with your little jumper, you'll get there.

beebosmum
10-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Brittyknitts and Miss_Molly! You both said it in slightly different ways and all of a sudden, it clicked! I was trying to 'finish' a 'set' of sts after the row 44, but there is no finishing a set at all. I was just thinking wrong. So I will end on row 44. Then I will 45 purl, 46 knit, and 47 purl... yeah! I think it makes sense!

You guys are just so friendly. Thank you for helping and trying a few different ways! It clicked! I am so thankful I found this site!

Thank you, Thank you,
Beebosmum

Lady Violet
10-22-2007, 08:16 PM
in case you haven't found out how to thank people yet, there's a "thank" button below each post.

we're glad you found this site, too! :hug:

brittyknits
10-22-2007, 08:42 PM
Friendly, compulsive problem solvers, whichever. . .:rofl:
But you're so welcome, and keep us posted as it comes along. Just know that knitting patterns are great, in that every single stitch is accounted for in an abbreviated form, very efficient. And therefore sometimes very confusing until you've had some experience. It's not you!