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OffJumpsJack
11-20-2007, 03:12 PM
I learned to crochet some 30 years ago from my mom. I just picked up again to make some matching dish cloths, napkin rings, and place mats for my wife. (Yeah, I am one of the rare men that can crochet or knit :guyknitting:) For the dish cloth, I didn't like the shell patterns that I had, :think: so I tried my own, using what I thought was a half-double crochet. So after the chain to size (plus 3) I yo, through both loops of the st to work and yo, then instead of pulling through all loops I left one and then yo and through two remaining on hook. :?? Boy that was taking longer than I remembered, even if it was kitchen cotton and a size e hook.

After a few rows, I looked in the back of the pattern book and :doh: saw my error and on the following rows I've used hdc stitches.

I liked that the first few rows didn't leave an opening as much as a hdc, but what is (or should) it be called (other than a mistake)? How about tqdc (or 3qdc) for a three-quarters double crochet or maybe sdc for a half slip-stitched dc? :eyebrow2:

I also wanted to give the FO a waffle pattern, but I guess that would require a size e afghan hook.

TIA,

Jack

ETA (well, to clear up the confusing) description...

I yo, through both loops of the st to work and yo, then instead of pulling through all loops I left one and then yo and through two remaining on hook.

I start with a YO, go through both sides of ST to be worked. (At this point isn't an HDC pull through all leaving one loop on hook) Instead I only pull through ST and my YO which leaves two loops on hook, YO again and pull through.

Contrast with DC: Start with YO, go through the ST to be worked and pull up a loop, YO and pull through two, YO again and pull through two again (leaving one loop on hook.)

Or am I just confused about what stitch is what? It has been about 30 plus years since my last project.

Boogs
11-20-2007, 03:36 PM
...I yo, through both loops of the st to work and yo, then instead of pulling through all loops I left one and then yo and through two remaining on hook. :??


Sounds like a dc to me but I think it's really cool that you're a bloke who crochets! :thumbsup:

aprildavis99
11-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Ok. Took me a minute to figure out what you were describing. It sounds like you did a slip stitch then pulled through the two loops you had left. No, there is no name for what you did other than oops. When you're making any stitch other than a slip stitch, you insert you hook into the stitch to be worked, pull up a loop, yo, always pull through 2 loops---except for the hdc where you pull through 3 loops(leaving only 1 loop left) ON the non-hdc's you continue pulling through 2 loops at a time until you have only 1 loop left. :ick:
www.nexstitch.com (http://www.nexstitch.com) has great videos of basic and fancy crochet stitches. Check it out. :star:

EssenceRose
11-20-2007, 07:12 PM
Hopefully this will help:

HDC: Yarn over hook.
Insert hook in the next stitch to be worked.
Yarn over hook.
Pull yarn through stitch.
Yarn over hook.
Pull yarn through all 3 loops on hook (one half double crochet made).

Double Crochet:
Yarn over hook
Insert hook in the next stitch to be worked.
Yarn over hook.
Pull yarn through stitch.
Yarn over hook.
Pull yarn through 2 loops on hook.
Yarn over hook.
Pull yarn through last 2 loops on hook (one double crochet made).

remclave
11-22-2007, 05:29 PM
In all honesty, if you've created a new stitch, go with it and see where it leads you. No stitch is wrong if you achieve a modicum of success. Well, that's my take on it anyway. :)

OTHA, if you really were looking to do a hdc, dc, or other stitch then you have been given excellent advice on how to make them. :D

Riss
11-23-2007, 01:12 AM
I just did a few of your new stitches into the piece i'm working on, then did a few extended hdc's and sc's next to it for comparison. Your stitch has a horizontal stripe of yarn at the bottom, where as the others just have the two verticals...

It seems to be about the same size as an extended sc, yet it has that little extra bit of yarn down at the bottom....

You definitely have me baffled. It isn't the easiest to do, because you're pulling directly into a tightly drawn loop, that first one after you've pulled up the loop...

It's definitely a pretty stitch though... :)

sylvia
11-23-2007, 10:29 AM
in crochet
the first time is a mistake
second time same
third time is a new stitch
go for it
crochet is a forgiving art
sylvia:thumbsup:

kkatt82
11-24-2007, 02:11 PM
Sorry to burst any "new stitch" bubbles, but it sounds to me like you're describing a "herringbone half-double crochet" or hhdc. It is used in the Fat Bottom Bag pattern from Sn'B Happy Hooker.

Hhdc (herringbone half-double crochet): YO, insert hook in next st, YO, draw yarn through st and first loop on hook, YO, draw through both loops on hook.

Hope that helps :)

OffJumpsJack
01-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Thank you all for the comments. As Riss said it is a difficult stitch. The herringbone HDC sounds like a match. Figures after centuries of the craft that it wouldn't be a new thought.

I frogged it then started anew using the long tail cast on. 55 st to a size G 6/4.25mm hook then continued with afghan stitch. Did that wrong for two rows and then found did it correct for another three rows. Frogged again and am now on row two using afghan st started with the LTCO. Long way to go to finish.

OffJumpsJack
01-25-2008, 01:01 PM
FROGGed and restarted twice before going with LT CO and afghan stitch.

The dish cloth is now finished and I will try to get a picture and post it here (if I can also figure out how to do that).

Afghan dish cloth with rope edge. (Image in development).

--Jack

mathwizard
01-27-2008, 09:32 AM
Go with it!!! Can you call it freeform or creativity. When I work embroidery, I change a stitch and even add different thread. I call it adding my own touch. Makes it a more original to me and adds to the work.:woot:

bjc1050
01-27-2008, 02:24 PM
I learned to crochet some 30 years ago from my mom. I just picked up again to make some matching dish cloths, napkin rings, and place mats for my wife. (Yeah, I am one of the rare men that can crochet or knit :guyknitting:) For the dish cloth, I didn't like the shell patterns that I had, :think: so I tried my own, using what I thought was a half-double crochet. So after the chain to size (plus 3) I yo, through both loops of the st to work and yo, then instead of pulling through all loops I left one and then yo and through two remaining on hook. :?? Boy that was taking longer than I remembered, even if it was kitchen cotton and a size e hook.

After a few rows, I looked in the back of the pattern book and :doh: saw my error and on the following rows I've used hdc stitches.

I liked that the first few rows didn't leave an opening as much as a hdc, but what is (or should) it be called (other than a mistake)? How about tqdc (or 3qdc) for a three-quarters double crochet or maybe sdc for a half slip-stitched dc? :eyebrow2:

I also wanted to give the FO a waffle pattern, but I guess that would require a size e afghan hook.

TIA,

Jack

ETA (well, to clear up the confusing) description...



I start with a YO, go through both sides of ST to be worked. (At this point isn't an HDC pull through all leaving one loop on hook) Instead I only pull through ST and my YO which leaves two loops on hook, YO again and pull through.

Contrast with DC: Start with YO, go through the ST to be worked and pull up a loop, YO and pull through two, YO again and pull through two again (leaving one loop on hook.)

Or am I just confused about what stitch is what? It has been about 30 plus years since my last project.



I'm not an expert re the various crochet stitches so there just may be something like that somewhere...just not called hdc :teehee:. If you like how it looks, why not go ahead and use it. Of course, it may change your intended gauge. Looks like you've created a new stitch. :lol: Better document it so you can copyright it.