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Limey
11-26-2007, 06:55 PM
Hi

Hope nobody minds that this is a sort of supplementary topic to the one posted by Brandy-M about sock needles.

Jan says she uses a US size 1 needle and Mrs Levite a US size 2.

According to this chart: http://www.fibergypsy.com/common/needles.shtml

A US size 1 can be either 2.25 mm or 2.5mm

A US size 2 can be 2.75 mm or 3mm

Could some kind soul please tell me that if a US pattern stipulates Size 1 or Size 2, how do you know which needle size to use?

Do you have to buy both, or what? :eyes::help:

It would be really useful to know (especially to Brits, Aussies and Kiwis) which is the more 'usual' size referred to in knitting patterns.

Does anyone know why there is this ambiguity about these two sizes?

Many Thanks
Ellie
http://www.countonknit.com

Jan in CA
11-26-2007, 06:59 PM
Hmmm..good question. I just bought a "1" without thinking about it and I'm not sure what it is as far as mm. I'm not sure that .25 makes much difference though anyway. :think:

Limey
11-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Hmmm..good question. I just bought a "1" without thinking about it and I'm not sure what it is as far as mm. I'm not sure that .25 makes much difference though anyway. :think:


With my luck, though, do ya wanna bet? :teehee:

Phaedra
11-26-2007, 07:59 PM
I tried to knit Monkey socks -- using what I thought was the correct size US 1 (what I already had - 2.25mm) But the sock in progress was too tight. I looked closer at the pattern -- US 1 (2.50mm); so I had to order them. I do think it makes a difference.

annomalley
11-26-2007, 09:22 PM
I've actually seen 2.50 mm needles labeled as size 1.5 and the 2.25 mm needles labeled as size 1, if that helps. I think it depends on the brand of needles though.

suzeeq
11-26-2007, 11:04 PM
Most patterns will give the needle size in mm, so you should go by that. After you've knit a few of them, I imagine you will sort of know which size to use if it's not given.

tootie44
11-27-2007, 01:09 AM
I use the 2.5 mm needles mostly, big feet. I don't know why we have to have these arbitrary US sizes anyway when it would be so much easier just to use mm. Most patterns do give the mm size as well.

KnittingNat
11-27-2007, 03:12 AM
Limey,
maybe you should check if a gauge is given in the pattern, that way you can knit with a swatch with both sizes and see what fits the best. I bought the Knitpicks DPN set and they state mm there as well and because i'm used to the metric system, i always go by mm.

knitncook
11-27-2007, 09:07 AM
This is why I never really go by US sizes. It's strange how much difference .25mm can make. Do you know how small .25mm is? It's about the width of the letter l! Yet it can make a difference. So can how tight or loose you knit. I always swap new sock yarns rather than go by the label.

Limey
11-27-2007, 05:13 PM
Thanks so much everyone for your input- it's really appreciated.

I didn't know if US knitters used metric measurements instead of American when it comes to the smaller sizes and I wasn't sure if US patterns gave mm sizes as well

It's more confusing when it comes to even smaller sizes - according to the above chart: US 0.5mm is 8/0
US 0.75 mm is 6/0
US 1.0mm is 5/0
US 1.25mm is 4/0

Just as well I'm familiar with the totally logical (yeah - right!) old UK sizes - the bigger the needle, the smaller the number!:zombie:


Yours:figureditout: (I think!)

Thanks again.

Ellie
http://www.countonknit.com

Jeremy
11-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Ellie I would echo Nat on the Knitpick options. I have a set too and find myself going with the metric measurements. The set is a good deal for $30 and has all sizes through I think 4US.

Jan in CA
11-27-2007, 08:25 PM
Ellie I would echo Nat on the Knitpick options. I have a set too and find myself going with the metric measurements. The set is a good deal for $30 and has all sizes through I think 4US.

$30? :teehee: It's actually $60 US, but they do have some international distributors.
http://www.knitpicks.com/help/index.php/cat/international-distributors/

Shandeh
11-28-2007, 03:06 AM
I guess it would be best to have both size needles, and just do a couple swatches to see which one knits to match the gauge requirement of the pattern.

KnittingNat
11-28-2007, 03:11 AM
$30? :teehee: It's actually $60 US, but they do have some international distributors.
http://www.knitpicks.com/help/index.php/cat/international-distributors/

Jan, I think Jeremy meant the DPN set i mentioned, not the Options and it is 29.99$, if I'm not mistaken. And here (http://www.getknitted.com/acatalog/KnitPicks_Double_Pointed_Needles.html) is the British distributor's price - 19.99 pounds.

Limey
11-28-2007, 05:02 AM
Hi KnittingNat

Thanks very much for that info.

Knitpicks are charging 20 for a set of dpns!!!????


S*d that for a game of soldiers! - 20 is $40 - they can think again!

All the Best

Ellie
http://www.countonknit.com

DQ
11-28-2007, 05:54 AM
You can get a single set for 3

http://www.getknitted.com/acatalog/KnitPicks_Double_Pointed_Needles.html

Limey
11-28-2007, 10:37 AM
You can get a single set for 3

http://www.getknitted.com/acatalog/KnitPicks_Double_Pointed_Needles.html

I can't get anything at the minute, Jen:passedout: I'm still trying to scrape myself up off the floor after I fell off the chair:eyes:

All the Best
Ellie

WildMountainHoney
11-28-2007, 03:14 PM
LOL, it's not ONE set, its 5 sets (5 different sizes) of 6 dpns each, in a handy case.

I personally love mine :mrgreen:

DQ
11-28-2007, 06:02 PM
I can't get anything at the minute, Jen:passedout: I'm still trying to scrape myself up off the floor after I fell off the chair:eyes:

All the Best
Ellie

I hope you manage to get up ok! :shock: