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Kamie
12-07-2007, 07:44 PM
I'm starting on the sleeves of this pattern, http://www.straw.com/cpy/patterns/cameo-Vneck-cable.html I wanted to make sure I could do it. So I figured the sleeves would be an easier place to start. :rofl:
Never done a chart before, can someone please explain? I think what is stumping me is the 14 of the chart? Where in the chart to I start with the 14?

I'm not new to cables, I understand the symbols in the chart, I just don't see where to start in the chart to follow 14 called for.

Sorry, I know it's a silly newbie question.

Kamie
12-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Let me clarify my question better. I'm looking at the chart and I see 8 vertical rows. I see 14 horizontal rows.

I from what I gather, the blank whites are empty space. So when the pattern calls for 14 it means I should go to row 1 3, and do the cables from that row?

So would it be correct to say when the patter says do 14 from chart A, that I should do the following.

P1, S3 to CN, in front of work, k3, k3 from CN then, S3 to CN hold in back, K3, K3 from CN, P1?

If so then please explain row 7 in chart A, why the blank spaces before the cable needle slips?

Ingrid
12-07-2007, 08:02 PM
I made this sweater! I love it.

Chart A is 14 stitches wide. You'll work it between the markers that you place.

Odd numbered rows are the right side rows and are read right to left; wrong side rows are read left to right. For the rows of the chart without cables, you'll purl 1, k12, p1. On the wrong side it will be k1, p12, k1.

Ingrid
12-07-2007, 08:06 PM
I just saw your clarification question. On this chart, the blank spaces are knit on the right side and purled on the wrong side. The chart shows you what the pattern will look like on the front of the sweater, so blank spaces work out to stockinette; the - spaces work out to be reverse stockinette.

Row 1 is P1, k12, p1
Row 2 is K1, p12, k1
Row 3 is P1, slip 3 stitches and hold to front, k3, k3 from cable needle; slip 3 and hold to back, k3, k3 from cable needle, P1

Kamie
12-07-2007, 08:37 PM
I just saw your clarification question. On this chart, the blank spaces are knit on the right side and purled on the wrong side. The chart shows you what the pattern will look like on the front of the sweater, so blank spaces work out to stockinette; the - spaces work out to be reverse stockinette.

Row 1 is P1, k12, p1
Row 2 is K1, p12, k1
Row 3 is P1, slip 3 stitches and hold to front, k3, k3 from cable needle; slip 3 and hold to back, k3, k3 from cable needle, P1

Thanks, why can't the pattern just say that?

I swear some of these patterns are more confusing then the act of knitting.

Kamie
12-09-2007, 10:34 PM
Row 3 is P1, slip 3 stitches and hold to front, k3, k3 from cable needle; slip 3 and hold to back, k3, k3 from cable needle, P1

OK, I've been over and over this in my head and just messing around. Please look at the chart again, the way I'm reading it is

Row 3 is P1, slip 3 and hold in front, K3, K3 from cable needle (just like you), but shouldn't the rest of that row be IN FRONT and not in back?

The only time I see an in BACK is on row 7!

I've tried it both ways and 2 in fronts on row three, looks more like the pattern. Not one in front and one in back on row three.

????????????????????

suzeeq
12-09-2007, 11:00 PM
The res of the row is"

slip 3 and hold to back, k3, k3 from cable needle, P1

Looks like you do the next cable the opposite way, holding in back. Then repeat, hold in front, then hold in back. Row 7 is hold in back first, then hold in front.

Kamie
12-09-2007, 11:07 PM
The res of the row is"



Looks like you do the next cable the opposite way, holding in back. Then repeat, hold in front, then hold in back. Row 7 is hold in back first, then hold in front.

I'm not trying to argue, but from the chart reading right to left on the odds. It reads the same on line 3 twice right?

The only place I see a hold in back is on line 7.

I've done it both ways just messing around and it looks more like the pattern doing two front holds on line 3.

If you look at the pattern it really looks more like two front holds to me on line 3.

Sorry, I'm not arguing just trying to get this right before I go any farther.

Row 3 only has two cables right? Row 7 only has one?

ignora
12-09-2007, 11:30 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm reading it the same way you are... hold to front both times on row 3, hold to back on row 7.

But, I've never made this sweater or knitted anything from a chart, so do with that what you will...

WildMountainHoney
12-09-2007, 11:32 PM
I think ingrid might have copied and pasted your question of the directions in her reply, and didn't notice the back versus front.

Yes, I agree, row 3 has you holding in front twice, and yes, row 7 has you:
p1, k3, slip 3 to cn and hold in back, k3, k3 from cn, k3, p1
(oh, I hope I got all that right, gotta a baby on my lap!)

Kamie
12-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm reading it the same way you are... hold to front both times on row 3, hold to back on row 7.

But, I've never made this sweater or knitted anything from a chart, so do with that what you will...


Thank you, we are both wrong I'm sure:rofl: but at least I have someone who is seeing what I am seeing.

Kamie
12-09-2007, 11:37 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm reading it the same way you are... hold to front both times on row 3, hold to back on row 7.

But, I've never made this sweater or knitted anything from a chart, so do with that what you will...

I think ingrid might have copied and pasted your question of the directions in her reply, and didn't notice the back versus front.

Yes, I agree, row 3 has you holding in front twice, and yes, row 7 has you:
p1, k3, slip 3 to cn and hold in back, k3, k3 from cn, k3, p1
(oh, I hope I got all that right, gotta a baby on my lap!)

Thank you thank you thank you!

I'm so spooked by charts I wanted to make sure. I think this is what happened as well.

I still want to see what Ingrid has to say, she's helped me so much to this point. It's just nice not being the only one who sees it, and she said she's made this.

suzeeq
12-10-2007, 12:14 AM
Whoops you're correct, there are two front cross cable in Row 3 and one back cross in Row 7. I'm not that great at reading charts...

Ingrid
12-10-2007, 01:02 AM
I'm so sorry if I messed you up. The two cables on the first row are the same. The one furthrer on is the opposite.:doh: