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photolady
02-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

this is what Jesus said.
Work is honorable, and Jesus was saying here, that, we should all work, and have enough to give to him that needeth.

Yes, giving to others to help them over a rough spot is good, but,
working, YOURSELF, at a job, is better. Then, you can help others get out of THEIR hardships.

Jesus also said: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

I believe this can be applied to the man who prefers begging over going to work.

I'm just frustrated, and about to give up, in here, trying to show you that I'm not a meanie.
It is better to teach a man to fish, than to hand a fish to a man.
One way enables him to provide for himself, but the other way keeps him oppressed.

photolady
02-21-2008, 11:28 AM
It is good to teach others how to be self sufficient.

It's apparent that this viewpoint is being used in this forum.

Example: teaching others HOW to knit socks, step by step, stitch by stitch.
Education is good. It helps others learn how to solve their own problems, how to make good for themselves, and THEN< in turn, perhaps they can teach someone else, who doesn't know how to knit socks, HOW TO KNIT SOCKS.

Helping people learn to do things on their own is good.

The title of this forum also echoes that: Knitting help
We don't give up, if we hit a snag. We ask someone who is educated in the matter, and who can help, HOW to get over the snag.
It is then up to us to keep on knitting.

iza
02-21-2008, 11:34 AM
:shrug: Maybe it's just time to move on now? Most people agree with you on the principles, but I think some of us simply want the freedom to give money to people we want to, when we want to, and how we want to, for the reasons we choose, without being judged. I think we're allowed to do what we want with the money we earned by... working.

msoebel
02-21-2008, 11:37 AM
The other thread was closed. Perhaps it's time to let it go.

sheldon
02-21-2008, 11:42 AM
Please move on or find another forum to discuss this on. The mod closed the original thread for a reason.