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07-18-2008, 03:36 PM
I was able to figure out the first half of the chart, but knitting the second half of the chart the way I interpreted it is not coming out looking right.

The pattern says to CO50, and then here's what I interpreted the chart as (bolded text in red depicts where I think I'm wrong):

Row 1 (RS): k across row
Row 2 (WS): p1, (k8, p8) 3xs, p1.
Row 3 (RS): k across row.
Row 4 (WS): p1, (k8, p8) 3xs, p1.
Row 5 (RS): k across row.
Row 6 (WS): p1, (k8, p8) 3xs, p1.
Row 7 (RS): k across row.
Row 8 (WS): p1 (k8, p8) 3xs, p1.
Row 9 (RS): k across row.
Row 10 (WS): p1 (k8, p8) 3xs, p1.
Row 11 (RS): k across row.
Row 12 (WS): k across row.
Row 13 (RS): K1, (k8, p8) 3xs, k1.
Row 14 (WS): k across row.
Row 15 (RS): K1, (k8, p8) 3xs, k1.
Row 16 (WS): k across row.
Row 17 (RS): K1, (k8, p8) 3xs, k1.
Row 18 (WS): k across row.
Row 19 (RS): K1, (k8, p8) 3xs, k1.
Row 20 (WS): k across row.

07-18-2008, 03:55 PM
I didn't read every row but I can't find anything that you did wrong.

07-18-2008, 04:45 PM
I can't see where you might have gone wrong, either! Can you provide a link to the pattern on line or a picture of what it should look like?

07-18-2008, 05:31 PM
Hiya Cooks

Only thing that stands out is row 11 and 12, which you've got down as knitting both.

Every odd row is Knit and every even row is Purl, except for row 12.

Can't see anything else.


07-19-2008, 12:57 AM
Ellie, I thought it was weird too to have two knit rows in a row, but I think it's because it looks to me like the pattern has a garter row going the length of the fabric.

I included pix from the pattern as well as my own swatch (although I don't know why it looks so uneven, but hey, that's what blocking is for!:teehee: ). The pattern is the "Collared Wrap" from Sally Melville's "Book 2: The Purl Stitch". The first 20 rows of the 20 row repeat on my swatch are below the burgundy life line.

07-19-2008, 05:42 AM
Hiya Cooks

More thoughts ..... on the first half of the pattern (up to row 12) all the K8, P8 rows are worked on EVEN rows.

The switch comes, as you noticed, on Row 13. From then on, all the K8, P8 rows are worked on ODD numbered rows.

I don't think or at least, I can't see, where you're going wrong at all.

If you break the pattern up into bits, this is what you'll find:(Bottom Right of chart)

Rows 1 to 12 - there are 12 rows of solid white - Knit on Right Side - Purl on Wrong Side.

(Top Left of Chart) There are only 9 rows of solid grey - Purl on Right Side - Knit on Wrong Side.

Although there are 20 rows of the pattern - it is not equal because there are more Knit on Right Side than Purl on Right Side rows.

I have a similar pattern in the photos below- I've knitted the back and one front of a cardigan and it does not lie flat. If you look closely at the orange wrap in your photo, the stitches are not lying flat either. I don't think it's a pattern that's meant to look even (that's my story and I'm sticking to it!:teehee:)

You'll see in the second photo I've posted some very uneven stitching on the left of an oblong (second column) which I frogged. It's important to keep the tension very even on a pattern like this because of the total difference in the stitches - the change can soon look floppy if there's a bit too much slack.

Anyway, thanks very much for posting, Cooks - it's given me the kick I needed to carry on with cardi.

Hope this helps.


07-19-2008, 10:34 AM
Oh, looking at the sample then, there's no typo. That's common in the basketweave type of stitch pattern to have a purl row on the RS when you switch the st pattern. So yeah, it should turn out just fine.

07-19-2008, 11:20 AM
Ellie, thanks for the tips--I'll be more careful with my tension. Hopefully when things get blocked, it will even out what I've already done. :oops: Your cardi is GORGEOUS--finish it! Finish it! Finish it!:cheering:

Sue, I think what threw me off is that I thought this pattern was alternating blocks of stockinette stitch with garter stitch, but what I was getting was garter stitch blocks with reverse stockinette stitch blocks on top of it, so I was worried. I didn't realize there would be anything other than stockinette stitch and garter on the right side. But if everyone agrees that this looks good, then I'll just keep with it. It was hard for me to tell from the photos included with the pattern if they had reverse stockinette stitch blocks so that didn't help me either.

Thanks everybody for helping me out!!!:muah:

07-19-2008, 11:29 AM
I found the wrap on Ravelry, and I'm posting a pic of "AlwaysABeginner"'s FO (hope they don't mind) because the stitch detail is clear. Does mine look the same? :think:

I'm paranoid. :shifty: I so want this to be nice for my SIL (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81691).:verysad:

Is it just me--whenever I need something to be extra special, I seem to screw it up!

07-19-2008, 11:38 AM
Yes, that looks like garter st blocks alternating with st st blocks, so it looks like you're okay.

07-19-2008, 03:45 PM
Okay...I feel very silly. :wall: I was taking a break from the pattern, and I decided to thumb through the book the pattern is in to look at the pattern for the cute garment on the cover. While looking through the book, I came across a bunch of patterns with garments using this "three block pattern". I got curious, so I looked further into the book. Lo and behold, some 15 pages after the pattern I'm working on, is a pretty detailed explanation of the pattern, and a visual (below) that would've saved me some headaches and confusion. Actually, I was able to see the pattern better on subsequent pattern photos. There really is reverse stockinette stitching in this pattern!

What threw me off is that I guess I expected one block to be garter, one to be stockinette stitch, and so on, then the next row to be opposite of what was below...I didn't expect to see that reverse stockinette stitch there, which is why I was panicked. Now I can see by looking at the other patterns and reviewing the extra information Sally has provided on this pattern that what I've done is actually right. I guess this is why it's called a "three block pattern"--stockinette, reverse stockinette, and garter.:doh:

Thanks again everybody for your help and helpful hints. I feel much better now! Perhaps most victorious for me in all this is that I actually read the chart correctly!

07-20-2008, 10:18 AM

Cookworm said:

Thanks again everybody for your help and helpful hints. I feel much better now!


Well, I'm glad somebody does!!!!!!:teehee:

I'm only joking, Cooks - you did me a big favour, getting me to dig out that cardigan that's been OTN for about two/three years.

Next time though, give us a week's notice if you get stuck again with this book!:teehee:

All the Best


07-20-2008, 05:54 PM
Ellie, the cardi already looks FABULOUS--the color, the pattern. You should finish it, and that way, you'll have it in time for fall and winter. Post pics too!

What threw me off when I started the pattern is that the reverse stockinette is placed right next to garter stitch, and in my humble opinion, it wasn't enough of a contrast in stitch pattern. That's why I thought I had made an error. Now that I have the references from the book, I know it's correct, so I feel better. Maybe once everything is done and put together, I'll be able to see the "big picture"? Anyway, if I made one of these for myself, I'd omit the reverse stockinette stitch and just go with alternating blocks of plain stockinette stitch with garter stitch.

07-20-2008, 06:49 PM
Hiya Cooks

Many thanks for the kind comments about the cardigan but all is not what it seems.

The cardigan looks a beautiful cherry red on the post but it's actual colour is maroon. I didn't fool around with the colour or auto contrast or what have you on the computer, it just came out like that ..... so, now of course, I wish it was that gorgeous red:gah::teehee: