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Crycket
11-13-2008, 03:12 AM
without joining mean? Don't you kinda have to join a round if you are going in circles? :??

OffJumpsJack
11-13-2008, 09:57 AM
No, you can spiral around, use a stitch marker to keep track of rounds.

In crochet in the round you have two choices, Either join (like with a slip stitch or sometimes a with a single crochet) and then chain 'up to' the height of the next round or you simply crochet your next stitch into the top of your first stitch for a spiral.

--Jack :guyknitting:

catlvr
11-13-2008, 09:59 AM
You usually join to the first stitch with a sc or slip stitch. In some patterns, you don't join--it comes out in a spiral shape and you join at a later time in the project. Use a stitch marker and just move it up with each round, so you know which is the first stitch of each round.

PamJ
11-13-2008, 10:24 AM
Does anyone know of any videos that illustrate both techniques?

OffJumpsJack
11-13-2008, 11:34 AM
Here is a picture of what sprial looks like. 50909


The video's I found were by Alissa for Expert Village (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8bEtwAZdB0) and I couldn't see confirm spiral rounds. She also uses an triple-extended single (http://www.nexstitch.com/v_extended_sc.html) crochet but calls it a triple crochet (http://www.nexstitch.com/v_treble_crochet.html). That is not an error I would expect from an 'expert.'

I added links to nexstitch videos for each of those stitches. I've now corrected a couple of those links.

Here is a video showing joined in-the-round (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwIFZ6408) to contrast with the above image. It makes concentric circles.

And here is a three color spiral hat (http://blog.interweavecrochet.com/labels/spirals.html). You can see here how the different colors don't join in concentric rounds but sprial.

--Jack

Crycket
11-13-2008, 12:26 PM
Ok...my instruction is "the ears are worked in spirals, that is you will be working in the round without joining rows.."

OffJumpsJack
11-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Crycket,

(edit to add: Here, is a new link with step by step pictures (http://www.crochetcabana.com/tutorials/spiral.htm).)

Perhaps it would help to visit the website where I found the first spiral crochet image you see in my previous post.

Oh, I didn't make a link to the woolly wormhead (http://woollywormhead.blogspot.com/2006/06/spiral-play.html)! :aww: Sorry about that.

Curl the work around as if to join but instead of joining, you simply start the next round by working in the top of the first stitch of the first round. This creates a jog that makes the end of previous round even with the start of the next round to form a spiral.

Does that help?

I have not found anything like this in knitting; knitting just magically matches up. Knitting doesn't need any chains to raise the needle up to the next row level like crochet.

But, just like when you move a CO from straight to circ. (or DPN's) take care that you don't twist it.

Really, it is quite simple, I can't believe no-one has done a video or has a picture with enough detail. Just trust the pattern and coil the first round like this '@' and continue.

--Jack

Crycket
11-13-2008, 05:08 PM
It helps for the purposes of my pattern...but then my next question is, what is joining in the round? What effect does that produce?

This is just curiousity....as I have no pattern....just don't understand the difference....

OffJumpsJack
11-13-2008, 06:10 PM
It helps for the purposes of my pattern...but then my next question is, what is joining in the round? What effect does that produce?

This is just curiousity....as I have no pattern....just don't understand the difference....

Here is a video showing joined in-the-round (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwIFZ6408) to contrast with the above image. It makes concentric circles.

In that video, Teressa Richardson uses two colors, alternating color on every round. If she didn't join with a sl st then chain up for the next round the ends of each colored round wouldn't line up.

By joining and then chaining to the height required by the stitches of the next row you get concentric circles/round. There will be no jog or step for color changes.

Different crochet stitches have different heights, see Turning chains (http://www.crochet911.com/crochet911.html#c11) at Crochet 911 & Knit 911 for a chart showing the different heights of the stitches.

It just give a different look. :cool:

--Jack :guyknitting:

cheley
11-14-2008, 03:57 PM
In that video, Teressa Richardson uses two colors, alternating color on every round. If she didn't join with a sl st then chain up for the next round the ends of each colored round wouldn't line up.

By joining and then chaining to the height required by the stitches of the next row you get concentric circles/round. There will be no jog or step for color changes.

Different crochet stitches have different heights, see Turning chains (http://www.crochet911.com/crochet911.html#c11) at Crochet 911 & Knit 911 for a chart showing the different heights of the stitches.

It just give a different look. :cool:

--Jack :guyknitting: This might be a little "off the wall", but you strike me as the perfect owner of a book I have (and will never use) it is called FROM NEEDLES TO HOOKS....it's a very magnificent, wonderfully illustrated book on changing knit stitches to crochet stitches.. pm me if you are interested:hug: