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bailsmom
12-16-2008, 10:09 PM
What is WRONG with people???

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_fe_st/odd_hitler_cake

Knitting_Guy
12-16-2008, 10:17 PM
Those folks obviously have some problems.

Wanda Witch
12-16-2008, 10:19 PM
I don't know; however, I feel anyone who names their child after such a despicable person is courting all kinds of problems for the kid in years to come. The longer I live the more I wonder about the so-called human race and their logic, not to mention intelligence and sensitivity. These are kind of people you cross the street when you see them approaching, at least in MHO.

saracidaltendencies
12-16-2008, 11:02 PM
I just read about that! And the names of the other kids....wow....And they really think people won't react??

thepurplegg
12-16-2008, 11:20 PM
That is going to seriously screw up those kids' futures. Hellooooo! They have to go to school, job interviews, and everything else a normal person does with those names.

And I really don't understand this:
"Heath Campbell said he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name." He sounded surprised by all the controversy the dispute had generated."

He named his son after the most evil man in history and he's surprised people don't like it? The cake thing is only the start. He's gotta go to school some day. I'd hate to be that teacher.

dreamsherl
12-16-2008, 11:45 PM
I just read about that! And the names of the other kids....wow....And they really think people won't react??

These children’s parents knew that the children's names would be controversial. They apparently are seeking the attention that they are receiving.

JustAFloridaGirl
12-17-2008, 12:15 AM
Interesting how he's all "We're not racist! We just like the name!" and then goes and gives the next child the middle name of "Aryan Nation." Not racist. Right.

Jan in CA
12-17-2008, 02:24 AM
Even the daughter is named after Nazi politician who was the leader of the SS as I understand it. Yikes. :zombie:

Mike
12-17-2008, 02:50 AM
These children’s parents knew that the children's names would be controversial. They apparently are seeking the attention that they are receiving.

That's why this is the second trip to the same store. Obviously they know of another store that will make the cakes so why go back to the one that won't?

I think they'd better be watching their Ps and Qs. I can see DCFS or the equivalent using their name choices as proof that they are not parents who have the kid's welfare in mind.

Debkcs
12-17-2008, 06:39 AM
I pity these children, and feel the parents should lose custody.

Can you imagine the bullying they will have to endure?

Hildegard_von_Knittin
12-17-2008, 07:46 AM
Wouldn't a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

IMHO, it's pretty sad that "we" (society) will/have been/are/might judge this child based solely on his name.

Crycket
12-17-2008, 08:55 AM
I think that if they had used only one of the two names, he might survive a child hood....but to use both of them together...and I bet you at home they do call him by both names....is just a little cruel.

I know we live in a time where it is hard to be unique...but there are other ways to be unique in naming a child...

Nobody needs that kind of burden in life....

I was just looking up weird names and came across this "I think that calling a boy "Jaymz" instead of James, or "Adhym" instead of Adam, is saddling them with a lifetime of annoyance where they are obliged to spell their names on every occasion, or correct other's mistakes. It's a bit different when a child's name is unusual and needs to be spelled out for that reason, but weird spelling of common names must drive these poor kids mad when they become adults." (http://forums.families.com/strange-baby-names,t340)

As one of those kids...I have to say it is...and mine is not even that bad....I am Crysta...and I can't tell you how many different spellings I get...and never the right one...not to mention, I very often get Crystal....*sigh*

I guess in the end it is nothing to complain about when you think about that poor boy!

miccisue
12-17-2008, 09:16 AM
Wouldn't a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

IMHO, it's pretty sad that "we" (society) will/have been/are/might judge this child based solely on his name.

Well, after reading the article, I don't know that it will just be by the kid's name. People are also going to meet the parents, and when daddy is striding around in black SS boots from WWII, it doesn't add favorably to the outlook this poor kid is gonna get.

And, IMHO, I think the "society judging the child based solely on his name" is putting on blinders. I mean face it.....how many of us as kids had kids picking on us by turning "normal" names into something to tease you with? Some I can remember are "Moore the wh*re", "Smelly Kelly", "No-brain Jane" "Picketts has rickets", ad nauseum. Besides, I fail to see anyone slamming the kid, only the idiot parents whose cleverness I personally fail to see.

I see it as a form of child abuse. Not as obvious as bruises, but the pain this kid is going to suffer is going to be equally as bad. They, as (and I use the term loosely) adults knew EXACTLY what type of reaction they'd get - especially when they used both the first and last name of that monster in the child's name. Adoph as a middle name? Odd, but I don't think it would be any problem. Adolph Hitler? Totally different story. And as for "Aryan Nation", heaven help her as well.

Heck, if this is acceptible, why not just name kids A**hole, **** Weed, Dumb Sh*t,.....well, you get my drift. Sometimes a name is more than just a name. And, if the parents think the names are so great, why didn't they just legally change theirs and leave their kids in peace?

miccisue
12-17-2008, 09:19 AM
I think that if they had used only one of the two names, he might survive a child hood....but to use both of them together...and I bet you at home they do call him by both names....is just a little cruel.

I know we live in a time where it is hard to be unique...but there are other ways to be unique in naming a child...

Nobody needs that kind of burden in life....

I was just looking up weird names and came across this "I think that calling a boy "Jaymz" instead of James, or "Adhym" instead of Adam, is saddling them with a lifetime of annoyance where they are obliged to spell their names on every occasion, or correct other's mistakes. It's a bit different when a child's name is unusual and needs to be spelled out for that reason, but weird spelling of common names must drive these poor kids mad when they become adults." (http://forums.families.com/strange-baby-names,t340)

As one of those kids...I have to say it is...and mine is not even that bad....I am Crysta...and I can't tell you how many different spellings I get...and never the right one...not to mention, I very often get Crystal....*sigh*

I guess in the end it is nothing to complain about when you think about that poor boy!


See, I'd have gotten yours wrong....all the Crysta's I know spell their name either Christa or Krista.

Mike
12-17-2008, 09:38 AM
Wouldn't a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

IMHO, it's pretty sad that "we" (society) will/have been/are/might judge this child based solely on his name.

Besides, I fail to see anyone slamming the kid, only the idiot parents whose cleverness I personally fail to see.

That's what I was about to say.

cindycactus
12-17-2008, 10:47 AM
IMHO I think these parents need to be committed to an institution and the poor kids given names that won't haunt them through their life.
If we ignore bad things in our history they will be repeated.

kellyh57
12-17-2008, 11:07 AM
Why did they LET them name their child that? There are laws against naming your children offensive names. Why did they let this get past? What if they wanted to name them Saddam Hussein or Bin Laden. Would they let those past?

Some other articles I read say that the parents have swastikas in every room of their house. They don't believe the holocaust actually happened. They are certainly closed minded and extremely messed up. (Neither one works either. They claim disability and live off of social security. That's a whole 'nother can of worms!) You'd better believe the child will be taught to always use his full name. If and when he starts school, I feel sorry for the kindergarten teacher! (I have a feeling that they will have issues with public schools and keep their kids home, but that's just me!)

Kelly

bailsmom
12-17-2008, 11:58 AM
I'm sorry, but no one is going to hear that name and not make fun of that boy or treat him different, even if his stupid parents are the ones to blame. Yes, they'll think his parents are morons, but they'll still take it out on the child. That's how life is, no matter how much we want it to change. Kids will tease other kids until the end of time. As long as there are parents out there who are allowed to pro-create and name their children despicable names there will be teasing going on.
Those of us who know it's wrong will teach our kids those correct values, but as long as there are idiots out there it'll only continue.

vaknitter
12-17-2008, 01:23 PM
I too am shocked that the state of PA would allow the parents to register a birth certificate and make those legal names to be used on a drivers license etc. The problem is we are a sue happy nation and I guarantee you there is a lawyer somewhere willing to take on their plight and sue anyone who tells them NO. Of course they did this for attention and of course they are racist. The fact that they claim disability and collect state/federal aide yet continue to produce children is an entirely different soap box that I need to stay off in this forum.
Unfortunately DCFS cannot remove children from the home b/c they have a crappy name (see lawyer comment above). I've never seen a child removed for anything other than physical abuse or neglect and even that is a long process.

Jan in CA
12-17-2008, 02:08 PM
The kids are going to study WWII and the holocaust in school and these names will be mentioned. They will be teased for sure. And names like that will change them for better or worse..they may become stronger or they may suffer emotional issues because of it. Sad.

As for it being sad that anyone should be judged by their name?.. I agree, but it's a fact of life unfortunately. :( I think the issue here is really the parents though..what kind of parents would name their children things that are going to hurt them. Someday (unless they change their own names at 18) they are going to have to get jobs. Who is going to want to hire someone named Adolph Hitler?

Puddinpop
12-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I think they'd better be watching their Ps and Qs. I can see DCFS or the equivalent using their name choices as proof that they are not parents who have the kid's welfare in mind.

Ditto.

scout52
12-17-2008, 02:16 PM
I see it as a form of child abuse. Not as obvious as bruises, but the pain this kid is going to suffer is going to be equally as bad. They, as (and I use the term loosely) adults knew EXACTLY what type of reaction they'd get - especially when they used both the first and last name of that monster in the child's name. Adoph as a middle name? Odd, but I don't think it would be any problem. Adolph Hitler? Totally different story. And as for "Aryan Nation", heaven help her as well.

Heck, if this is acceptible, why not just name kids A**hole, **** Weed, Dumb Sh*t,.....well, you get my drift. Sometimes a name is more than just a name. And, if the parents think the names are so great, why didn't they just legally change theirs and leave their kids in peace?

I completely agree with this. I think its a form of child abuse and if the parents love the name sooooo much they should change their own name.

You gotta love the irony in the article where it states that Shoprite employees defended their actions by stating that the Campbells had previously requested swastikas on the cake. Two paragraphs later Campbell states he was raised by racists but won't raise his kids this way. Yea ok what is his definition of a racist then?


My sister grew up with a "unique" name and being twins it was like a social experiment to see how differently people treated us since I had a plain jane name. People do treat you differently because of a "unique" name whether people consciously realize it or not.

thecatsmother
12-17-2008, 02:40 PM
Yes I agree the parents are attention seekers and they are using their children to get it.Really sad that the kids will have to pay

scout52
12-17-2008, 03:01 PM
I am having a hard time with this because I hate judging without knowing everything so I found another article that was much longer. http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-0/122923112231930.xml&coll=3&thispage=1

Apparently Child Services has been involved already, so apparently Child Services has concerns as well. They made the family remove the swastikas from the cars for the children safety.

Oooh and I hate saying this but I think this guy is extremely mentally unbalanced from the abuse he had as a kid. It is not normal to have skull with a swastika unless your anthropologist. I am not sure what abuse his wife has been through. But these people obviously need some help.

Those poor poor kids. They have a tough road ahead of them.

Jan in CA
12-17-2008, 03:11 PM
I just found that link, too. I don't know how he can say the kids won't be teased or suffer abuse when they start school! Kids who are different get teased whether it's big ears, birthmarks, obesity or a the name of a despised man from the past. Sometimes they get teased for no apparent reason. It's a sad fact of life.

stitchwitch
12-17-2008, 04:06 PM
I can only hope that these kids aren't so severely emotionally damaged by the time they become adults that they are able to petition the court for a name change once they hit 18.

scout52
12-17-2008, 04:06 PM
I just found that link, too. I don't know how he can say the kids won't be teased or suffer abuse when they start school! Kids who are different get teased whether it's big ears, birthmarks, obesity or a the name of a despised man from the past. Sometimes they get teased for no apparent reason. It's a sad fact of life.


You are so right about that. School is tough. Seriously why make it even worse?

You what really stinks about this? those poor kids is really going to hate history class. I LOVED history class.

OffJumpsJack
12-17-2008, 06:22 PM
I too am shocked that the state of PA would allow the parents to register a birth certificate and make those legal names to be used on a drivers license etc.

From my reading of the article, the family lives in New Jersey, Not Pennsylvania. But though that distinction gives some comfort, it makes no difference to your point. (I'm native Pennsylvanian, please "don't tread on [us]." ;) )

My wife is a teacher and has encountered students with the following names:

Eric Thered <sirname> (parents pronounce it as "the red")
Shi-Thead <sirname> (Hint: Shift the hyphen to the right one letter.)
Vagina (pronounced va-GEE-nah but using the common spelling)

Having several RNs in the extended family, we have many similar stories from them and their colleagues. Common story is that nurses present for birth and neonatal care ask the parents about specific spellings and why they chose the name when there maybe negative connotations to the name. Sometimes parent(s) are ignorant of the meanings of the words, other times it is the parent(s) choice.

It's a touchy and dicy issue, the parent(s) ingnorant of the meaning might have the meanings explained. But the choice of name is that of the parent(s). :shrug:

As other have expressed, I feel sorry for the children.

One pitfall that can be harder to spot is the initials or monogram forming a negative word. With a sirname beginning with 'S' forget naming your daughter Amy Sue or any other choices with similar initials. :doh:

--Jack :guyknitting:

Crycket
12-17-2008, 07:13 PM
I have to agree with everyone in the sense that KIDS are mean enough without adults getting involved....

Perhaps the young ones he goes to school with won't understand the meaning...but I believe it was brought up...it will be taught in school!

Back to KIDS are MEAN...they are...really they are....

I went to a catholic school from Grade 3-7 and I didn't go through most of the motions...(communion etc) and I got picked on bad....but truth be told...I was picked on from the day I set foot in the school...what was I ...like 8? Nobody knew me better then from a hole in the wall...and I was teased relentlessly! The fact that I didn't go through the motions was just yet another hurling stone!

Time moves on, I went to a new school/city for half of grade 7 and onward...and I realized that I wasn't the loser the other school had made me feel like...but that 5 years that I was rejected by the other kids really had an impact....and that was ONLY 5 years....can you imagine....

The point I am making is most kids aren't interested in you for you...they are interested in finding something to prop themselves up...and if that happens to be at the expense of you...then so be it!

It is funny, cause a lot of the ppl I had problems with then, are on my Facebook now...and they are appologetic.

Tropicflower24
12-18-2008, 12:38 PM
I pity these children, and feel the parents should lose custody.

Can you imagine the bullying they will have to endure?

I disagree. The names are repulsive and any parents that would name their children that have problems. BUT if the children are loved and cared for, it's a lot more than they would get in the foster care system. Taking away custody seems to be the answer for everything now days. There is a family we know who's son was taken away for *homeschooling* him (even in accordance with all the regulations for their state). And because this is happening so often, the system is filled with children and because they are losing custody faster than they can be placed with adoptive families, they get placed in foster homes with abusive parents or 80 - 90 year old foster parents who can't take care of them.

miccisue
12-18-2008, 08:46 PM
I disagree. The names are repulsive and any parents that would name their children that have problems. BUT if the children are loved and cared for, it's a lot more than they would get in the foster care system. Taking away custody seems to be the answer for everything now days. There is a family we know who's son was taken away for *homeschooling* him (even in accordance with all the regulations for their state). And because this is happening so often, the system is filled with children and because they are losing custody faster than they can be placed with adoptive families, they get placed in foster homes with abusive parents or 80 - 90 year old foster parents who can't take care of them.

Not necessarily true. I personally know couples who are foster parents not only to help the kids who need it, but to possibly adopt a foster child who needs a family. Adoption is tough - the wait, the not knowing if the birth mother will change her mind, etc. They've applied to China as well. These people want to be parents - and biologically aren't able to be. They are wonderful, caring people who are a safe haven for a child/children in need. Not all foster parents are monsters or senior citizens. Cut them some slack, will you?

Jan in CA
12-18-2008, 09:20 PM
Please remember to keep this thread civil. This kind of topic brings out strong feelings and we need to remember to respect each others opinions and feelings. :hug:

1knittychick
12-18-2008, 09:40 PM
I read that article the other day. How crazy are these parents? Maybe when he gets older he can legally change his name to something else.

Lucy78green
12-26-2008, 04:41 PM
Just came across an article (http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9775114) about a judge in New Zealand who made a child a ward of court because her parents gave her a stupid name

Crycket
12-27-2008, 12:17 AM
Really...what are ppl thinking?

lulubell
01-08-2009, 09:25 PM
I dont think she was made a ward of the state because of the name, I think that was a comment made during a custody hearing where neither parent was considered able and fit to look after the child, and she was made a ward of the state for that reason. (if I remember correctly) One of my nephews got tied up with a strange woman, and had two children with her. The first one she wanted to name Robert Prince of Tasmania (????????) but was not allowed to by Internal Affairs, but the second one she named Printz. I call him Allen!

tarrentella
01-09-2009, 03:40 PM
We all know that a persons attitude in later life is strongly influenced by their parents during childhood. I know people can make their own minds up about things when they get older but once the foundations of what a child thinks of as 'normal' are laid they are hard to undo.

Calling a child Adolf Hitler or Himler isn't just cruel in terms of the possible embarresment etc that the child may go through (and i would be very surprise if they didnt) but is indicative of the types of things they will be tought and the attitudes they will be surrounded with in their family home. I don't agree with taking children away at the drop of a hat but i am glad that social services have been involved alreay and i hope they continue to be so that these childeren get the social educaion they need and the support to get through any childhood bullying they will encounter because of their parents behaviour

Knitting_Guy
01-09-2009, 11:35 PM
The names these people chose for their children say volumes about their mental condition and social beliefs. While they have a right to their beliefs they are obviously some sick people who are in need of some serious mental health treatment.

I feel sorry for the their offspring.

tarrentella
01-15-2009, 12:13 PM
It seems the local authorities have found some reason to intervine:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/boy-3-named-adolf-hitler-taken-into-care-14140373.html

I hope the childeren are ok and in a safe caring environment.

Magz11
01-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Wow. I would be horrified to have a name like that, when the last person that occupied it was an evil killer who took out anger on helpless Jews for no reason. That kid will get a lot of looks in school.

sgtpam
01-15-2009, 08:16 PM
or his sister's name...JoyceLynn Aryan Nation. I watched some of the interviews with him and, talk about ignorant! I found it amusing though, that the reporter they sent was a black woman...and a very professional reporter she was! Not a hint of attitude...I'm not sure I would have been able to be that calm!