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dodgerfan
04-08-2009, 08:47 PM
I went into michaels the other day and the yarn sections was fairly bare and there were signs saying new yarn dept coming this spring. Does anyone know what is going on?

AngieLanigan
04-08-2009, 09:00 PM
There's a huge thread somewhere on Ravelry about this. Apparantly they're redoing their yarn department, reducing the amount of novelty yarns and working on their own Michaels brand of yarns.

If you're on Ravelry, search "Michaels" in the "6 main boards only" and it should bring up the thread if you feel like wading through the entire thing.

Jan in CA
04-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Mine says that, too. So far nothing happening though.

suzeeq
04-08-2009, 10:22 PM
People on Rave who work at Michael's say it's going to be in May, maybe toward the end of the month.

AngieLanigan
04-09-2009, 07:57 AM
In the meantime, they're having some pretty good sales. I got like 15 skiens for under $30, including some Bernat cashmere for, a ton of the Bernat satin (that I used in my Drop Stitch scarf, in different colourways) for Christmas knitting and some "oddly" coloured wool blends (bright yellow, green) perfect for some toys I had planned.

Craw
04-09-2009, 09:07 AM
My Michaels is also doing this. There's very little yarn to choose from, even less thread, and they've let their notions section go empty as well. Can't wait to see what they have in store (pun intended). They mostly carried acrylics so it would be nice to see some higher end brands in there just so we could have a choice. That would set them apart from the other craft stores.

Woodi
04-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Oh golly, must go see. The nearest Michaels is a 1.5 hour drive from me though.
I have been searching for and visiting as many small yarn stores as I can possibly find within a 2-hour drive. Not tooo too many,
= disappointing.

I have tried ordering online, and the shipping and taxes to Canada just about triples the prices for me = not worth it.

I will continue my searches though, haven't driven east yet, only north and west.

margz3
04-09-2009, 12:37 PM
Aah...that might explain the very limited selection of yarn when I went a couple of weeks ago - just needed some cotton and they had very little of that...or anything else!

Jan in CA
04-09-2009, 12:47 PM
Why are they taking so long to do it?! Don't they understand about yarn emergencies?! :lol:

suzeeq
04-09-2009, 12:57 PM
But, but.... everyone picked up all the closeout yarn, so they must have enough to last until they get restocked...

Crycket
04-10-2009, 04:05 PM
hmmm...there own brand...I would be curious to see how that will turn out...

HollyP
04-10-2009, 04:39 PM
I think I need to go to Michael's more often.:teehee: I haven't seen any close out yarn or even great sales but I did see the signs announcing the improved dept.

ArtLady1981
04-10-2009, 04:53 PM
This has gotta be doomsday news at Red Heart, Caron, Bernat, Patons, Lion, etc!

UNLESS, Michaels' own brand of yarn is going to be one of the major companies under the Michaels label.

Safeway does that. Example: Their Safeway brand canned veggies are really just a major company (for example Del Monte) with the Safeway label. At least it was that way when I worked for Safeway in the 70's.

Something I noticed about some of the Store Branded yarns: they got cheaper. Money saving shortcuts. Ack. Nice on the outside, with hidden secrets in the inside.

For example, this is what happens to DEBBIE MUMM for JOANNS yarn when you are working with it, and not just a bit, the entire skein:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/2218675901_431bf70156.jpg?v=0

The lovely OUTSIDE colors are not solid through. There is this ugly black worm on the inside as a filler. The black worm is embedded inside the colorway, and doesn't begin to appear til you're knitting.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/2218675865_2d83231d2b.jpg?v=0

Here is the poncho, using 4 skeins of identical color in identical dyelot. Nice huh? See the difference halfway up?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2218574183_974b1438d5.jpg?v=0

Here is a skein of the offending Joann's branded yarn:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2092424768_4f851077fc.jpg?v=0

Is there any hit of the black worm hidden in the core of the yarn? Nope.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/2092424678_c0b41655fa.jpg?v=0

So, I am totally unexcited about Michaels BRAND NAME yarn.
If JOANNS is any measure of what changes are all about: Michaels Brand will be NEW YARNS, cheaply produced, and with the same or greater prices. AKA: more profits on Michaels bottom line.

The DEBBIE MUMM Traditions for JOANNS yarn was not inexpensive. It was $6 per 149 yd skein, whereas Plymouth ENCORE is $5.49 for 200 yds and excellent quality. At least ENCORE is 'yarn' through and through. No hidden black worms.

This is just one knitter's experience with a 'store branded' yarn line. :pout:
It still gripes me. Knitting this kid's poncho was a total miserable experience, stitch-by-miserable-stitch. I had to skooch the topmost reds colors down over the black worm about every 4 stitches to keep the black worm covered up.

Hopefully, Michaels will do a better job of transitioning their yarn department.

cresmoon
04-10-2009, 07:15 PM
So I guess this is the point where I out myself as being one of Michael's lowly, badly paid part-time associates. My store is advertising the new section too but we've yet to clear out any current yarn. From what I've heard from one of my managers, it will still carry the usual stuff, but just more new selections of yarn.

The next time I go to work, I'll ask what's the deal with the new store brand yarn. Be warned though that no other staff there that I know of knows anything about knitting or yarn so they may not be able to give me a helpful answer.

YarnKitten
04-10-2009, 07:39 PM
Another lowly Michaels floor servant here.

From what I've seen, we aren't restocking much. I usually find a few skeins on the floor, still in their bag because there's no room for them on the shelf. Not over the last while. And there are full shelves that are empty.

There is a sign in the staff room now about the Michaels brands around the store. I'm sorry, but I can't remember what they were calling it! *tear* Either way, I hope it starts SOON and if I remember, I'll bug the store manager tomorrow if she's in. (Her and I are nice and chummy, so I'm sure I'll hear something.)

Crycket
04-10-2009, 08:51 PM
Something I noticed about some of the Store Branded yarns: they got cheaper. Money saving shortcuts. Ack. Nice on the outside, with hidden secrets in the inside.


So, I am totally unexcited about Michaels BRAND NAME yarn.
If JOANNS is any measure of what changes are all about: Michaels Brand will be NEW YARNS, cheaply produced, and with the same or greater prices. AKA: more profits on Michaels bottom line.



Yeah...it like Mary Maxim and Herrschners....booth of certain lines of their yarns suck....Herrschners is ok...when you go with some of the nicer stuff...namely stuff with more wool content...like the sock yarn or the stuff that felts...but the basic acrylic stuff is just riddled with knots and just generally feels unpleasant...

The Mary Maxim Mellowspun pills like mad...and even though it is soft, it is cheap, and in the end....the garment just isn't as nice as it could have been...

Let it be said though...yes, these yarns are cheap...but there are nicer cheap yarns other there!...Lets hope Michaels brand does not turn into one of the flops...

knittingincarolina
04-11-2009, 11:03 AM
I have been using Yarn Bee (Hobby Lobby's brand), and so far I haven't had any problems with it. I hope Michael's will improve and expand their yarn department, this is in turn will force HL to keep up. Seems like every time I go into HL the yarn department shrinks just a little bit more.

YarnKitten
04-11-2009, 11:32 PM
Loops And Threads I think might be the name of the new brand they're coming out with. And me, I COMPELTELY forgot to ask the boss until about five minutes after she had passed me in the front foyer on her way out saying goodbye. *sigh*

mathwizard
04-12-2009, 08:24 AM
I knew something was going on in my store but thanks for the information. I hope they do use a better quality yarn because I would hate to make something with cheap inferior yarn. Dye lot should be sacred and I would have taken it back the minute I discovered it wasn't the same.

khaosx5
04-13-2009, 02:14 PM
As someone who works at one of the above mentioned stores (MM & H) I can tell you that it is not the company's choice as to what fibres go into the yarns. The manufacturers tell us what is in them and they resond to the market - people are asking for softer yarns - they just don't realize that they do not stand up as well.
:knitting:

tokmom
04-13-2009, 07:28 PM
Our Michaels has switched over. I went in with my daughter looking for iron on's, so I didn't get a chance to see what they had in yarns. However, I couldn't find the section. I asked an associate as we were checking out. She told me it was behind her and pointed to this tiny corner. I think the yarn section was half the size it used to be.

TEMA
04-13-2009, 11:26 PM
I do hope they are going to do something about their total inadequate supply of needles - especially DPN's. They seem to carry very few of them especially the longer types - like 8 or 10"s.
TEMA

cresmoon
04-13-2009, 11:58 PM
I ate something I shouldn't have and couldn't go to work, too bad because the store manager was there and I could've asked him about the new yarn section. But based on what I already know about Michael's from working there, well, I wouldn't expect much from this yarn section. Most of the stuff at Michael's is reasonably "affordable" a.k.a. cheap to the mass market. That's how it can afford to do the type of business it does, by carrying stuff that isn't so high end that the high prices would drive casual artists and crafters away. So I doubt they'll come up with a yarn that's so nice that it'll be expensive and the casual knitters won't buy it.

And maybe it's just my store, but we don't sell very much yarn or needles as compared to all the other stuff in the store. The only time I see people buying the yarn is when we have some major sales going on and I have yet to see anyone on my watch buy any needles. I think the casual knitters make do with whatever cheap acrylic stuff that's on the shelves while the serious knitters complain about the lousy selection and buy online or go somewhere else.

Crycket
04-14-2009, 08:10 AM
As someone who works at one of the above mentioned stores (MM & H) I can tell you that it is not the company's choice as to what fibres go into the yarns. The manufacturers tell us what is in them and they resond to the market - people are asking for softer yarns - they just don't realize that they do not stand up as well.
:knitting:

I see your point...and I have also heard the point "it is cheap, you get what you pay for" which I understand...

But I have to wonder...if you are going to put your (in the case the company) name on something, does it not stand to reason that it should be a good enough quality to feel good about. I would hate to put my name to something that would get more than its fair share of complaint letters....even if it does sell for its price....

I don't know...I am of two minds...Either way...for the most point...I know I will not buy certain lines of these yarns simply on reputation alone!

cresmoon
04-14-2009, 11:01 AM
But I have to wonder...if you are going to put your (in the case the company) name on something, does it not stand to reason that it should be a good enough quality to feel good about. I would hate to put my name to something that would get more than its fair share of complaint letters....even if it does sell for its price....

I don't think mass market local yarn stores will ever carry the types of high end and specialty yarns that most serious knitters' patterns ask for. They're far too expensive for the general demographic, which is casual to beginning knitters. At my store, I see the acrylic stuff sell when we have sales. I hardly ever see the suede or wool or pure cotton being sold, even when we have sales. Even the sock yarn on clearance takes a while to sell, and I know that yarn's not fancy. It's like I said before: serious knitters usually buy their yarn online because their LYS wouldn't have that kind of yarn, why? Too expensive for the general public. Which is why they won't create any yarn line they doubt most of their customers could afford. If at all this line has any natural fibers in it, I would think it'll be no more than 10-15% and will be mostly an acrylic blend.

It could be something like Yarn Bee, which is Hobby Lobby's signature yarn. Which btw is on clearance at my local store because no one wanted 4 ounces of it at $4.99 per skein.

Craw
04-14-2009, 11:13 AM
That's true, anyone shopping at Michaels is looking for the inexpensive acrylics if they're buying yarn. Most people I know have never used anything but acrylic and wouldn't know what to do with it if you couldn't throw it in the washer/dryer, nor would they pay more than $2-$3 for a skein of yarn, expecting it to be at least 300 yards. (aka Red Heart) In this economy it's probably not a good idea to try out the higher end yarns.

suzeeq
04-14-2009, 12:31 PM
It could be something like Yarn Bee, which is Hobby Lobby's signature yarn. Which btw is on clearance at my local store because no one wanted 4 ounces of it at $4.99 per skein.

There are many different Yarn Bee yarns, not all of them are being closed out. HL is discontinuing some of them, mostly the fuzzy/furry ones as are other stores and manufacturers. A few years ago when that was the newest thing in knitting, a lot of it sold. But now the manufacturers are turning to sock and natural fiber yarns because that's where they see the trend.

quilter64
04-14-2009, 11:19 PM
I talked to the clerks and Michaels is setting up a new yarn dept due in May.
Quilter64

quilter64
04-14-2009, 11:24 PM
I recently asked a clerk at Michaels about their yarn dept. and was told they are redesigning it and it should be open in May. I myself am looking forward to seeing what they are going to give us.
Quilter64:-P ]

Suziblues
04-16-2009, 03:34 PM
I live in Michigan, about 30 or so miles outside Detroit and a mile from Michaels.
They've been having these signs in the yarn dept. for a few months now, announcing their new yarn dept. It was suppose to be done by May and it is the middle of May now and I don't see ONE thing differant yet, so I wish they'd hurry!
But I like Michaels. The yarn dept is at least 3 or 4 isles big and they have all differant kinds of yarn already........wool, acrilyic, swede, silk, hemp etc and I'm sure it's all a lot cheaper than the lys.
sue

cresmoon
04-16-2009, 03:44 PM
It won't take that long to create a new yarn section Suziblues. All they have to do is wait till the truck arrives, schedule some poor sods to work the freight shift that starts at 4 a.m. to unload the truck, schedule more poor sods to work 8 or 9 hours shifts where all they do is move everything, open boxes, place yarn in the new section, and they're done (all of this usually takes no more than a day to two to do). My guess is the new yarn won't get there till the end of April and be set up by the beginning of May. What that yarn consists of remains to be seen.

YarnKitten
04-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Yeah, my store manager isn't sure when the yarn is coming in. 9_9 Makes me sad. I'd ask the other store manager (from a different province) who's been hanging around, but she's a b*tch, so screw that. I'm not desparate for this information.

And cresmoon, at our Michaels, I notice that the sock yarn seems to go in the nicer colors and they all that is left is this ugly variegated stuff that is too busy to do a nice pattern in. :/ This happens and we're not restocking just when I find nice patterns I want to try. Will probably get ugly stuff and do a basic sock to learn.

newbieknitter
04-17-2009, 02:53 PM
I live in Michigan, about 30 or so miles outside Detroit and a mile from Michaels.
They've been having these signs in the yarn dept. for a few months now, announcing their new yarn dept. It was suppose to be done by May and it is the middle of May now and I don't see ONE thing differant yet, so I wish they'd hurry!
But I like Michaels. The yarn dept is at least 3 or 4 isles big and they have all differant kinds of yarn already........wool, acrilyic, swede, silk, hemp etc and I'm sure it's all a lot cheaper than the lys.
sue

Color me crazy, but, is Michigan on a daylight savings calendar or sumthin? :p:p

knittingymnast
04-19-2009, 05:40 PM
Why are they taking so long to do it?! Don't they understand about yarn emergencies?! :lol:

Ha. I don't actually rely on Michael's for yarn, but anyways, many people do. What do they mean when they say "redoing?"

And just saying, but anyone who has sock yarn at their local Michael's is SO lucky. All we have here is furry, worsted weight yarn in crazy colors and other yarn ONLY in worsted weight.

cresmoon
04-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Went to work at Michael's today and this is what I've found out: we're now slowly clearing out some more of the yarn but not all of it. Some of the wool stuff and lesser-selling brands are on clearance (probably because we're discontinuing it, like the hideous neon-colored Caron's Simply Soft yarn colors). My manager told me the new yarn is coming "any day now" but has no idea what it is. She also had no idea what the Michael's yarn would be like. But if you'd like to buy some of the Paton's wool yarn, along with sock yarn and some of the Bernat, it should be on clearance prices which aren't too bad. I'm going back myself to do some shopping soon as I can.

pinktoque
04-20-2009, 06:14 PM
I live in Michigan, about 30 or so miles outside Detroit and a mile from Michaels.
They've been having these signs in the yarn dept. for a few months now, announcing their new yarn dept. It was suppose to be done by May and it is the middle of May now and I don't see ONE thing differant yet, so I wish they'd hurry!
But I like Michaels. The yarn dept is at least 3 or 4 isles big and they have all differant kinds of yarn already........wool, acrilyic, swede, silk, hemp etc and I'm sure it's all a lot cheaper than the lys.
sue

Erm, it's only the middle of April right now, not May, so give them a few more weeks...

celtic52
04-20-2009, 06:39 PM
My Michaels was the same way this weekend, it looked like a hurricane and gone through it. I hope they are not going to go with all yarn made specifically for them, I don't think you get as much variety. I went into HobbyLobby and that is what they did exactly. "I Love Yarn" is there brand name. It is okay, but I wasn't exactly thrilled with the choices so far. Leslie

Jan in CA
04-20-2009, 06:56 PM
it is the middle of May now and I don't see ONE thing differant yet, so I wish they'd hurry!


I think you may have turned too many pages on your calendar. :teehee: Or else I'm a month behind.. :??

Jan in CA
04-20-2009, 07:00 PM
(probably because we're discontinuing it, like the hideous neon-colored Caron's Simply Soft yarn colors).

:noway: Those are great colors for children's clothing! The love the bright colors. :shrug:

Simply Soft Brites GRAPE Simply Soft Brites WATERMELON
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2048704950_e0b2b921c9_m.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2048704860_058da41489_m.jpg

cresmoon
04-21-2009, 12:32 AM
I have no issues with the colors you used for your sweaters, but the bright orange and bright green colors are just painful. But to each their own. :)

pinktoque
04-21-2009, 08:10 AM
:noway: Those are great colors for children's clothing! The love the bright colors. :shrug:

Simply Soft Brites GRAPE Simply Soft Brites WATERMELON
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2048704950_e0b2b921c9_m.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2048704860_058da41489_m.jpg

Those are beautiful, Jan!

imrachel
04-21-2009, 09:17 AM
I'm noticing a distinctly judgemental tone in this thread. I think we need to be a little more respectful of other folks' yarn choices and refrain from using phrases such as "painful" and "cheap". I've gotten great, inexpensive yarn at Michael's, and awful, expensive yarn on line. There are those of us who are allergic to wool, or knit for people who can't or won't wear animal fibers, some of us actually like neon green and orange, and as for not knowing what to do with something if we can't throw it in the washing machine-- knowing and wanting to either handwash or take it to the dry cleaners are 2 different things. No one comments on the many people on this site who only want to use free patterns.

Downloading instructions patternfish: $6. An adult sweater using Caron's Simply Soft vs Noro wool: $90. Working with what an individual enjoys and can afford because they love to knit: priceless.

I personally don't like the Michael's near me because the sales people know nothing and the selection is very small and poorly maintained-- sloppy and dirty, actually. But there's one an hour a way which is much better. So I am hoping that the "new yarn dept coming this spring" they have been advertizing for the past 4 months is going to an improvement, but we're all going to have to wait and see.

cresmoon
04-21-2009, 10:43 AM
Sorry if I offended you, imrachel. I was just expressing my opinion and not judging anyone for shopping where they do or buying what they do. I myself buy lots of stuff from Michaels and Joann's and HL - sure as heck can't afford more expensive yarn right now.

What I meant to post in my original response was that the lesser popular yarn colors (like the neon ones) are the ones that seem to be clearing out of my particular store. I didn't mean it as a reflection of how good or bad the yarn is, just an example of the type of yarn I was speaking of that we probably won't be carrying anymore.

kellyh57
04-21-2009, 01:06 PM
I'm thinking about stocking up on the Neons that are clearanced. Here's a project from the charity group (Midwest Region Baby Oddball). It's all in the "Brites" line. Everyone who has seen it loves it. I'm sure the child who gets it will too. These yarns and colors are awesome for children. I don't know too many kids who don't like the bright colored things!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/3463300326_fb596ba400.jpg

Jan in CA
04-21-2009, 01:31 PM
What a pretty blanket, Kelly! What kid wouldnt love that! :inlove:

HollyP
04-22-2009, 05:37 PM
I agree I'm going to have to stock up on the neon colors for kids stuff especially the oddball blankets. I was hoping they would continue to carry the SS brites since they are the only place I can get them locally! Keeping my fingers crossed that not every Michaels is doing the same thing as Cresmoon's.

Kelly that blanket is great!!

Jan I love your sweaters!!

cresmoon
04-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Your Michaels might not be clearing it out for good, HollyP. I don't know if mine is - I just know it's discounted right now but I don't know if it's just to sell it or because they don't want to carry it from now on. It could be back with the new yarn section.

My local HL and Joann also carry this yarn. Do yours?

cresmoon
04-24-2009, 09:01 PM
Went to shop today and they're now starting to clear out the Patons Merino wool yarn and some of the Red Heart soft yarn, along with the Simply Soft skeins. Just in case any of you are interested in buying any of that. The sock yarn is still clearing out as is some of the natural fibers yarn like the Bernat natural blends, which was all gone when I got there.

hookedonknitting
04-27-2009, 12:01 PM
your blanket has inspired me! yay!

Lighting57
04-27-2009, 01:44 PM
My HL has quit with the interior design fabrics and a lot of their other fabrics and now they have quit with a lot of the other brands of yarns they use to carry. They mostly sell their own brand now. I've also noticed that the knitting and crochet accessories section appears to carry less each time I go in there (about once a month). I wish I lived nearer so I could check the clearance more often.

OffJumpsJack
04-27-2009, 03:31 PM
:noway: Those are great colors for children's clothing! The love the bright colors. :shrug:

Simply Soft Brites GRAPE Simply Soft Brites WATERMELON
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2340/2048704950_e0b2b921c9_m.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2048704860_058da41489_m.jpg

Oh, look for babies who are black belts in martial arts.... :roflhard:

They are cute outfits, Jan.