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bellybean
04-27-2009, 05:50 PM
I started knitting at Christmas. I started with a scarf, of course. I knit a few, knit two hats: one that fit, one that didn't. I read lots of knitting books and web sites. I know about how important gauge is.

I was ready for my first "real" garment. I found a tank I liked at Yarnco. The pattern came with the yarn. It is ribbed (K1P1) on the bottom and st st on top, v-neck. I tried to get gauge. It took several tries, but I got it. Or so I thought.

After a few weeks of knitting (I am not very quick and don't have a lot of time) I started measuring to see if it was long enough to switch to st st. Ah, just another inch. Then I thought, I should really measure across, shouldn't I. Well, I did. And instead of being 18 in. it is 14. FOUR WHOLE INCHES too narrow!

I suppose I COULD rip it out. But if I do that, I know that I will never go back to it. I am not that crazy about the yarn. But it cost a lot of money, so I don't want to just forget about it.

I don't think I could complete it as is and give it to someone, because it would still be too small (although there is a lot of stretch to it).

Could I possibly salvage it by using this part for the back and making the front wider? Is that crazy? I know it would take a lot of math (ugh!) but is it a good idea?

Any other suggestions?

Ingrid
04-27-2009, 08:22 PM
Could it be that the measurement is meant to be when the ribbing is stretched out? It could have a negative ease--that is what it's smaller off than on, basically.

If you make the front larger, you might have a problem with where the seams lie, and that, I would think, would be a problem with a tank, especially.

Maybe you could make the back and front the same size and then knit a panel to go between the front and back on each side? I've never done this, but it sounds feasible.

MrsWildchild
04-27-2009, 09:06 PM
The other thing is: When you say, "tried to get gauge," do you mean you were changing needle sizes, or trying to adjust your tension to match what the pattern says? 'Cause I think it's probably best to knit naturally however you are comfortable and use whichever needle gives you gauge.

Knitting_Guy
04-27-2009, 09:26 PM
Gauges? We don't need no steenkin gauges!

Just figure out the basics of the pattern, calculate the math of the size you want, and make the thing.

Piece of cake.

Or pie if you prefer. :mrgreen:

Ingrid
04-27-2009, 09:33 PM
Gauges? We don't need no steenkin gauges!

Just figure out the basics of the pattern, calculate the math of the size you want, and make the thing.

Piece of cake.

Or pie if you prefer. :mrgreen:

Made many tank tops, Mason? :rofl:

Knitting_Guy
04-27-2009, 09:37 PM
Made many tank tops, Mason? :rofl:

A couple.

Ingrid
04-27-2009, 09:41 PM
A couple.


Wanna model 'em?:teehee:

auntcrafty
04-28-2009, 02:04 AM
Wanna model 'em?:teehee:

:roflhard: :teehee:

Yes, Mason, care to model them or did you gift them?

KnittingNat
04-28-2009, 02:11 AM
Wanna model 'em?:teehee:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

bellybean
04-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Gauges? We don't need no steenkin gauges!

Just figure out the basics of the pattern, calculate the math of the size you want, and make the thing.

Piece of cake.

Or pie if you prefer. :mrgreen:

Since I am a pretty new knitter, I do not feel up to that. However, if you are offering to do this for me, I will be happy to send you the pattern and my measurements! :wink:

MrsWildchild, I was unclear: I changed needles 3 or 4 times to get gauge. I really don't know what happened, but I probably miscounted because of the ribbing.

Ingrid, thanks for the panel suggestion. That is a great idea! I think that is really my only viable option. My problem now will be figuring out the armhole shaping. I might have to rethink the v-neck shaping also. Which is really scary since it is the first time I've ever tried shaping anything! I almost want to knit the top in another yarn for the practice and then come to this later. Like next spring!

suzeeq
04-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Make sure you're making the swatch larger than X sts needed for 4". The edge sts don't measure the same and tend to curl under, so you need at least 5 or 6" across to measure in the middle. Isn't the gauge given for stockinette? It's really hard to measure ribbing because of the stretchiness, but stockinette lies flat.

imrachel
04-28-2009, 12:13 PM
If I'm understanding your post correctly, you've only just done the ribbing? If so, then you're probably okay-- the ribbing will pull in and be more narrow than the stockinette st part. But if you've done the st st part for a few inches (vertical inches, that is) and measured across and are 4" short, then that's a different story.

I know this isn't the answer you want, but if it were coming out way too small, I personally would just rip it out and start over. The side panel thing is going to get tricky with the armhole shaping, and unless you are an experienced knitter or dressmaker and know how to shape it, it's probably not going to come out well.

And yes, it sounds as if you did the right thing in getting gauge, that is, trying the different needle sizes. When working a gauge swatch, the bigger the better. If it says 18 sts = 4 inches, I would cast on 30 and work for 20 rows-- you'll really get a sense of how it's going to come out, especially until you've been doing it for years and get to know how you knit.

bellybean
04-28-2009, 01:27 PM
Yes, I have only done the ribbing so far. The st st and ribbing have different gauges, and I had been trying different needles to get gauge in stockinette. The pattern calls for reducing from 134 stitches to 100 when switching to stockinette (there are actually 4 rows of garter stitch in between) so I think I would still have the width issue.

I think I am going to put this aside and work on something else for a while. When I am less angry at myself, I will figure out what to do.

Thanks everyone for your help! I will keep an eye out for the tank photos.

suzeeq
04-28-2009, 01:32 PM
Don't be angry at yourself. Knitting lies to us all the time. We think we've got perfect gauge, then the item comes out way too big or too small. Keep going on your ribbing, an inch worth isn't enough to measure the actual width accurately. Finish up the ribbing, then do the garter stitch and an inch on the stockinette. Then you'll know if it's too small, a little small, or just right.

Anarfea
04-28-2009, 02:43 PM
Without having seen your pattern, I was just wondering, did it give you a gauge in ribbing or just in stockinette? I'm with the others that I would wait untill you get to the stockinette because it is the nature of ribbing to contract when it's not being stretched.

That said--if you get to the stockinette and it's still 4 inches too narrow--I would rip it out. I know it might be hard to face--but think of how much worse it would be to knit the entire thing and then have it be too tight at the bottom to wear or try to seam a side pannel that doesn't work out.

suewoz
05-05-2009, 01:22 PM
Usually gauge will be in stockinette stitch. so you may not be off your guage at all in the ribbing. Ribbing is meant to stretch. i think I would knit a little more and see how it is once you start your stockinette. You can always rip the whole thing out if you don't find you are knitting at guage.

Yes I know I said rip the whole thing out. Sorry. But I do not think you have a problem.