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bailsmom
05-08-2009, 11:29 PM
I am in the beginning stages of researching acupuncture and I thought I'd ask some of my knitting friends their experiences, if any. There's a story behind my interest in acupuncture, it's kind of long and winded so I thought I'd ask the initial question of - Has anyone ever done acupuncture or is anyone currently using acupuncture at the present time.

I've heard so many stories of good and bad and would like to know as much as possible. Both sides of anyone's experiences please, don't sugar coat it for me. I like to be well informed so I can make the best decision for my own health.

Is it expensive? Has it worked for you? Does it hurt a lot? How long do you need to do it? Do you have to take the herbal supplements while doing the acupuncture or is it an either/or option? I only ask this one because my system is so darn sensitive to certain drugs that taking a foreign drug scares me.

I can't think of anything else at the moment, but don't despair, I'll think of some more tomorrow.

suzeeq
05-08-2009, 11:36 PM
I worked for an acupuncturist and have received it.

It usually isn't real expensive, but most insurance companies won't cover it. The needles are very thin and don't hurt, but there may be some tingles or burning as the chi starts to move. How many treatments depends on the problem and how long you've had it. For sprains and tendonitis, it took me 2 treatments a couple weeks apart. After the 2nd one, the symptoms actually got worse for a few days, then improved and went away within a week. The acupunturist or OMD may determine that you need herbal supplements or not, depending on the underlying cause. They can be powerful, but do not usually have the same types of side effects as pharmaceutical meds do. They're combinations of herbs which are selected to balance whatever's out of balance.

bailsmom
05-09-2009, 11:02 AM
I worked for an acupuncturist and have received it.

It usually isn't real expensive, but most insurance companies won't cover it. The needles are very thin and don't hurt, but there may be some tingles or burning as the chi starts to move. How many treatments depends on the problem and how long you've had it. For sprains and tendonitis, it took me 2 treatments a couple weeks apart. After the 2nd one, the symptoms actually got worse for a few days, then improved and went away within a week. The acupunturist or OMD may determine that you need herbal supplements or not, depending on the underlying cause. They can be powerful, but do not usually have the same types of side effects as pharmaceutical meds do. They're combinations of herbs which are selected to balance whatever's out of balance.

I've had the problem since I was 10. Yikes, I wonder if I'll need a lot more than 2 treatments! Hmmm, does acupuncture work for migraines too?? I just thought of that as I'm sitting here pondering my next question...How do I go about finding a reputable one and not some quack out to make a buck?

Oops, sorry, I forgot to add that I'm 32 now, so it's been quite a long journey.

suzeeq
05-09-2009, 12:01 PM
Yes, it's great for migraines. They won't be diagnosed as that, but something like internal heat, or dryness or stuck chi ... the headaches are just a symptom. My dad had migraines most of his life, just about every day, and they lessened some when he retired, but he still had them. My brother said that he got acupuncture a few times and they totally vanished. So it really depends on the underlying cause.

PM me with your location and we'll see what we can find.

hookedonknitting
05-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Well My mom was in a major car accident two years back, and has been using accupuncture as one of her treatment methods. As for the pain aspect of it- it isn't bad, probably less than what you are experiencing. Also it depnds on where the put the needles ( they are very tiny!). Weather you like it or not may depend on who is doing it, if you don't like the first person try someone else- there are many techniques and thoughts about it. As for supplements, no you don't have to take any, and you should have a good relationship with your accupuncturist to talk about your fears. Like a docotor it must be a two way relationship. I know for a fact that my mom feels better when she is getting treatment- although the first couple of hours after she is pretty tired, but she is getting some heavy duty work done!! lol!! Good luck!!

MoniDew
05-09-2009, 12:46 PM
I'm a believer! I used accupuncture for different physical ailments (dislocated elbow, twisted knee, etc) but the most profound and unexpected benefit was deep emotional healing. My accupuncturist was not surprised, but I was shocked by how deep into my emotional pain he was able to tap, and release! I didn't even realize how much emotional pain I was in until it was gone. I owe him a debt of thanks I can never repay.

And, yes, afterward you are really tired and must sleep for a few hours. But the next day, you feel BRILLIANT!

MoniDew
05-09-2009, 12:49 PM
How do I go about finding a reputable one and not some quack out to make a buck?

They have boards, and licensors, like other professions. And seek references from others you trust (like your chiropractor or naturopath.)

suzeeq
05-09-2009, 12:55 PM
My accupuncturist was not surprised, but I was shocked by how deep into my emotional pain he was able to tap, and release! I didn't even realize how much emotional pain I was in until it was gone.

Yep, and sometimes this can be the root of the physical symptoms too.

KnitClickChick
05-09-2009, 12:59 PM
I had back pain for more than ten years. About July of last year, I woke up one morning and couldn't even stand up let alone walk, the pain was so bad. I had gone to my PCP in prior years, and just did not want to have all the tests, pills, etc. again because they did not help. I decided on acupuncture. I went to a Chinese doctor (I had heard that western drs who practice acupuncture are not as good as Chinese drs) It was about $50 a treatment, I had 4 treatments. Didn't feel a thing from the needles. She did hook up some type of electrical device to the needles, which made a very mild vibrating sensation in my back, but it didn't hurt at all. I haven't had a bit of back pain since!! Best money I ever spent. My boyfriend also was having back pain, and went to the same lady, had only 2 treatments and is good as new also.

knitfan
05-09-2009, 01:28 PM
I have had acupuncture for fibromyalgia and myofascial pain. I will say that the ultimate result was that after several weeks it did help very much with that pain. In fact, that was six years ago and I have not had as bad pain since then. However, I did NOT like the practitioner and did not feel comfortable telling him about my fears of the procedure. Each time I had a treatment I would spend several hours afterward with weird heart sensations, like it was beating way too slow or something. It would return each time I had a treatment, but by then my anxiety about the heart thing would ratchet up the whole experience. One day I told him about my anxiety and he told me I had "bad" chi. He did do a different type of acupuncture at that point for anxiety and it really worked at taking it away.
I will not go back though now, because I am fearful of that heart thing, but painwise, it did work well.

suzeeq
05-09-2009, 02:59 PM
(I had heard that western drs who practice acupuncture are not as good as Chinese drs)

Many MDs only learn acupuncture in weekend seminars, so don't have a complete background in chinese med to give them the whole picture. They're taught "if X hurts, put the needles in Y" without understanding if that's the best thing to do.

I will not go back though now, because I am fearful of that heart thing,

There are ways to alleviate that as you experienced. You should have told the practioner after the first time you experienced the heart anxiety. It's not exactly 'bad' chi, just that perhaps you had some 'stuck' chi and undergoing the treatment caused it to get unstuck and move around, which affected your heart.

bailsmom
05-09-2009, 03:33 PM
I'm a believer! I used accupuncture for different physical ailments (dislocated elbow, twisted knee, etc) but the most profound and unexpected benefit was deep emotional healing. My accupuncturist was not surprised, but I was shocked by how deep into my emotional pain he was able to tap, and release! I didn't even realize how much emotional pain I was in until it was gone. I owe him a debt of thanks I can never repay.

And, yes, afterward you are really tired and must sleep for a few hours. But the next day, you feel BRILLIANT!

Good Lord!! If it can help with emotional pain then I'll do it just for that! I've been a big blob of emotions for quite a while now. I cry at the drop of a hat, and then I get a migraine from all the crying. It really sucks. Just have been going through some pretty emotional situations in my life recently, that's what I mean. I'm not crazy, well, I am, but it's never been documented by a doctor. ;)

knitasha
05-09-2009, 05:31 PM
They have boards, and licensors, like other professions. And seek references from others you trust (like your chiropractor or naturopath.)

I wanted to try acupuncture for arthritis in my hands, particularly in the thumb joint. I asked my primary physician, who referred me to an MD acupuncturist with specialties in anesthesiology and pain management. His clinic is in a major hospital and it does all forms of pain management including epidurals, physical therapy and therapeutic massage. He comes from Asia and has studied Asian medicine, which he combines with Western modalities. I felt very secure in this environment. They took X-rays and a full medical history to eliminate causes for my pain which would not be helped by acupunture (a tumor, for instance). The treatments were not really painful -- it just felt odd. After inserting the needles, the doctor attached them to a machine that vibrated them at a precise frequency (some acupuncturists do this manually). I was then left to relax in a quiet, softly lit room until the machine turned off. My hands began to feel less stiff about 24 hours later, and the pain was definitely reduced. I had a second treatment, after which there was significant relief for about six months. I'll go back when I feel I need to.

The doctor did not prescribe herbs or other medications, but had no objections to over-the-counter NSAIDS as needed. He did recommend hand exercises and warm soaks. He also said that many of his patients find that knitting helps keep their hands flexible, if it's not overdone. Insurance covered much of the treatment, possibly because it was provided by an MD.

thecatsmother
05-10-2009, 06:54 PM
I seem to be in the minority here but I've had acupuncture twice both times it was very painful.I had it done on my forearm for elbow pain the needles stayed in for 10 minutes under a heat lamp...that was 10 minutes of torture...this was done by a chiropractor(maybe that's why I don't like them either)the second time in by back by a physiotherapist I just about hit the ceiling when he put the needle in,so I would never have it done again(unless I was sedated first)LOL
Many of my problems are muscle related and I find massage therapy works for me.

suzeeq
05-10-2009, 07:34 PM
I found that if I moved/flexed a muscle that had a needle in it, it hurt like he**... Otherwise I had no problem. You could be right in that the practioner may not have been properly trained. If you don't get the right spot it can be uncomfortable at the very least.

bambi
05-10-2009, 10:23 PM
I've had acupuncture done before, too. I had it for sinus problems and for plantar faciitis. It worked better for the sinuses for me than the PF but I went to two different people for it and I think the first man I went to was better at it. Unfortunately, i live in a different area now than I did then so going back to the same guy was not possible.

My insurance did not cover it so I paid out of pocket, about $90 for the initial and maybe $50 thereafter. I don't remember exactly.

I would look up someone who has trained with a Chinese medicine specialist and not someone who does it on the side like a doc or chiro.

I have certain points on my body that always "zing" when they put a needle there but overall, I can't say it really hurt.

I would recommend it!

Bambi

bailsmom
05-13-2009, 04:15 PM
Ugh, I'm getting a bit frustrated with finding an acupuncturist that doesn't cost over $100.00 for a single session. I can't afford $400.00 a month for this treatment. So far the ones I've called are too expensive. And my insurance does not cover it one red cent.

Help meeeee.....:pout:

newamy
05-13-2009, 07:46 PM
I recently met a man with multiple problems but among them he is a recovered meth addict. Has been clean for 3 years after probably 20 years of drinking and all sorts of drugs. An acupuncturist in our town works with him for free to help him stay off drugs. He swears by it. He says it really has helped keep him where he is at. He also says for about a day afterwards he is less interested in smoking cigarrettes but that he has never quit. Says he has smoked since he was about 12 so hard to give up anyway.

suzeeq
05-13-2009, 08:36 PM
Is that $100 for the initial session or all of them? It's normal for them to charge more for the first one; they usually take about an hour to ask questions, diagnose and give the first treatment. Then you usually pay about half or so of that for subsequent ones, which are just needles and only take about 20-30 minutes.

Of course you live in an expensive part of the country, so that factors into it too.

bailsmom
05-13-2009, 10:50 PM
Is that $100 for the initial session or all of them? It's normal for them to charge more for the first one; they usually take about an hour to ask questions, diagnose and give the first treatment. Then you usually pay about half or so of that for subsequent ones, which are just needles and only take about 20-30 minutes.

Of course you live in an expensive part of the country, so that factors into it too.

Yeah, you're right. You'd think I would take that into account, but for some reason I always block that part out of my head as I'm trying to pull my hair out from the frustration of everything.

The few places I've inquired with, their initial fee is around $130.00 and each session after that varies between $80-$100. Ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous.

suzeeq
05-14-2009, 12:28 AM
That is high. I went to one in central MI a few years ago. I think it was around $80 for the first visit, then about $50 after that.