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BettyLuvs2Knit
07-27-2009, 02:29 AM
So I've only been knitting for a few years. I was shocked when I started because it just came naturally for me. I wish I had started when I was younger. I was nervous to start an actual pattern- had only been doing scarves! :teehee: - as I thought it might be too difficult to decipher. This too seemed not to be problem for me either.

Right now I am looking at one of Ashley Paige's "most popular" pattern books: Sexy Little Knits. Most of the patterns are not very difficult and don't require a high skill level to complete. However, I found her pattern writing technique VERY difficult to understand. :whoosh:

I would like to start working on Little Mermaid Strapless Top but have found it very confusing. This is not a confusing garment to construct, so why does the pattern make me go: HUH?!?!

Will someone please help me to decipher this pattern so maybe I could make this before the summer's through? ...or maybe have it handy for next summer?

FYI: I thought it might be smart to visit her website to see if maybe I could get feedback from her- or her "people". But that was a dead end as her site's only focus is to find empathy in the public about her follies in the clothing design industry.

She patterns great garments, but.....:shrug: :??

suzeeq
07-27-2009, 10:13 AM
Without posting the whole pattern, can you type out a few rows that are giving you a problem?

Jan in CA
07-27-2009, 10:18 AM
I don't know her patterns or who she is, but she should be able to make money for her hard work. I've only written a few simple patterns and they are nothing compared to the writing of garment patterns. There are tons of free patterns on the internet.

If you are confused about something in the pattern we have a How-to Questions Forum to help. Ask your questions as clearly and with as much information as you can. :thumbsup:

cdjack
07-27-2009, 10:25 AM
I checked Ravelry. 26 people have made that top, so maybe you could send a message to one of them about questions that you have.
Also, you can check for errata on the publisher's website.

Ingrid
07-27-2009, 10:43 AM
I've also found that reading too far ahead in any pattern can be confusing. I liken it to reading all the directions on how to assemble a bicycle and worrying that you don't know how to attach flange B to slot A. You're not at that point yet.

Work it one row at a time without getting ahead of yourself. As you complete each section, the directions for the next section will make so much more sense once you have the foundation ready for them.

Dive in! What's the worse that could happen? If you get to a spot that you just don't get, then come here and ask!:thumbsup:

BettyLuvs2Knit
07-27-2009, 11:36 AM
I am in no way dissing Ashley as a designer, she makes WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL clothing. But when I pick up a pattern book to emulate one of her awesome creations and find in the first line of the pattern that it doesn't make sense, and then try to go to her website for help from the source and can't find any assistance. This is when it begins to get VERY frustrating.

My sequence of help was to go as follows:
*Go to the pattern writer directly and ask for help or find out if there is an errata.
*Ask others who might have done this pattern if they might have additional advice. (Going to these forms... haven't quite made it to Ravelry yet, that was my next stop.)
*Ask my local knitting friends for help

She may be a very brilliant designer- I've never met her personally. And making money off of her patterns is a very noble profession. But her website portrays her as a VERY confused, disorganized, unprepared person.

Could this be a case of someone getting in a little over their heads??

Jan in CA
07-27-2009, 11:41 AM
Some designers use terminology that is very hard to understand. You can come here and ask for help or find an easier pattern to understand. :thumbsup:

BettyLuvs2Knit
07-27-2009, 11:49 AM
Here's the real deal.....

Little Mermaid Strapless Top

(THIS IS THE VERY FIRST LINE OF THE PATTERN FROM THE PATTERN BOOK.)

KNIT 1, PURL 1
Row 1 *Knit 1, purl 1, repeat from * to the end.

Row 2 Knit the knit stitches and purl the purl stitches. Repeat row 2

M1 Make 1 stitch by knitting into back loop of horizontal bar lying before next stitch.


...is this a little confusing to anyone else??? :wall:

Where is the cast on instructions? How do I K1, P1 when there aren't any stitches on my needles? And if I'm not supposed to do these rows first where am I supposed to put them back into the pattern?

:???: :?? :think:

(I like to read all the instructions before I begin a project so I can see what is expected. Just like reading a cooking recipe so I can be prepared for what's next.)

Jan in CA
07-27-2009, 02:30 PM
It should say to cast on a certain amount somewhere in the beginning. Search for that then maybe it'll all make sense. The part written is not confusing other than that.

suzeeq
07-27-2009, 06:37 PM
Look later on in the pattern, the CO sts are probably there. It seems like this part is tell you how to set up the rib st pattern, and it's not unusual to have patterns put this before the CO instructions. It may actually be that you cast on and start working in stockinette and this ribbing will not be the actual first rows of the pattern, but starts later on. Row 1 sets up the rib, row 2 is a common way to write subsequent rows for ribbing. If you knit what look like knit sts and purl the purls, you'll be knitting a rib.

BettyLuvs2Knit
07-28-2009, 01:26 AM
Look later on in the pattern, the CO sts are probably there. It seems like this part is tell you how to set up the rib st pattern, and it's not unusual to have patterns put this before the CO instructions. It may actually be that you cast on and start working in stockinette and this ribbing will not be the actual first rows of the pattern, but starts later on. Row 1 sets up the rib, row 2 is a common way to write subsequent rows for ribbing. If you knit what look like knit sts and purl the purls, you'll be knitting a rib.


Ive also been told that maybe a tubular cast on might work.

I'll have to try out all the advice and find out what works.

Thanks for all the help working through this frustration.

rachael72knitter
07-28-2009, 10:07 AM
The first time I used a pattern I also got confused. I kept saying to the people I asked, "well why don't they just say. . ." I think all patterns are like that. It was the same thing for me with sewing patterns.

Once you learn the lingo, terminology, abbreviations, and how they are typically set up, you will be fine. I pick up patterns now and don't have the trouble I did when I first started reading them.

I don't think it is how this designer writes her patterns. I think it is how most knitters write their patterns. Just get started and ask a question when you get stuck.

WildMountainHoney
07-28-2009, 01:41 PM
IMO, that sounds like the "definitions" section, not the pattern itself. A lot of patterns are written like that - I think most on knitty.com are, too. They give you definitions of all the stitches first, along w/gauge, sizing info, etc.

In the case of what you posted, she is defining exactly what "knit 1 purl 1" will mean when you come to it later in the pattern, but I don't think that line *is* the pattern, I really think that is just the definition section.

MMario
07-28-2009, 03:18 PM
I agree - it's a definition section, the instructions come later.

cristina61
07-28-2009, 08:27 PM
If you read a little further down in the pattern -- where it says "Back" -- that's where the pattern actually begins. That's where it tells you to cast on 84 (92, 100, 100) stitches, etc.

The paragraph you quoted from is, as mentioned by the others, where she's describing for you the stitch pattern you'll be using so you know exactly what to do when you read (in the next sentence down) "Work 6 rows of Knit 1 purl 1 rib."

I agree with Jan that sometimes it's not good to try to understand every little bit of the pattern when you start; but it is important to read down until you find the CO number, because that's where the pattern really starts.

BettyLuvs2Knit
07-29-2009, 01:54 AM
Thanks for all your help reading this pattern. This is the first pattern that I haven't been able to "read". Everything other pattern seems to be set up the same. So it was just a bit confusing when I came to this pattern.

I have looked at the pattern with different eyes and I can see now where to direct myself.

I'll keep updates on how this is coming along.

:hug: Again thank you all for helping me through this frustration I've been feeling toward this pattern.:hug: