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fingersfancy
12-13-2009, 11:03 PM
Do any of you know how do a woven crochet pattern?
I don't mean a basket weave stitch.

Please check out the picture here:
Aging Successfully, Fall 2009 (http://aging.slu.edu/index.php?page=fall-2009-vol-xix-no-2).
The article is Zora, and the picture is on the bottom of page 16.

I will appreciate any help you can give me. This pattern is driving me crazy :waah:

Thanks,
Ruth

blueygh2
12-13-2009, 11:05 PM
I've heard about this before, but didn't get a chance to try it yet. Good luck...

fingersfancy
12-14-2009, 07:59 AM
I think we have the answer.

It is a woven fabric to which someone is adding an sc chain border.

I am so happy to have the solution, but I wish it was a crochet solution!

Thanks for your consideration.
Ruth

melmac51
12-14-2009, 04:58 PM
I don't think this is exactly what you're looking for, but another way to have "woven" crochet is to crochet in a mesh pattern (like filet crochet), and then weave yarn in and out between the meshes. I've seen afghans and scarves done like that.

Hope this helps.

blueygh2
12-14-2009, 06:50 PM
Wasn't there some way to imitate woven stitches with crochet? I thought there was. Well then, my bad.

Becky Morgan
12-14-2009, 10:41 PM
I can't download the magazine to see it. There's a way to crochet with two (or more) different yarns, each in filet mesh, so they're woven through each other but are both crocheted, not woven after the fact. It makes a thick, fluffy, very light fabric. Could that be it? If so, I might know how. I have an afghan that I bought as a kit years ago. It had the instructions with it, and James Walters did a tutorial on the technique.

melmac51
12-15-2009, 05:16 PM
hmmmm...maybe intrelac crochet??

blueygh2
12-16-2009, 09:53 AM
http://www.hookedonneedles.com/2008/07/how-to-crochet-woven-stitch.html

This looks pretty woven, doesn't it?

MGM
12-16-2009, 11:45 PM
http://www.hookedonneedles.com/2008/07/how-to-crochet-woven-stitch.html

This looks pretty woven, doesn't it?

Oh blueygh2! Thanks so much for linking to my woven stitch! I've actually been thinking of adding a video tutorial to that post so it can be seen in action! I love this stitch and use it often, in fact I'm using it right now for a project using Boucle yarn which is notoriously difficult to work with. Using the woven stitch makes it usable!

As for a crochet stitch that uses two colors and looks like they are woven together, I actually have a pattern for a stitch like that which I have used for both baby blankets and also for one super huge full size afghan. I'll put it on my list of things-to-do and see if I can get a little tutorial up and share the stitch with you. Might not be what the original writer was looking for, but something to add to our list of crochet stitches!

MGM

aleksandraa
09-24-2010, 11:33 AM
Hi, when I saw your post I liked this pattern too. Im not sure if you found an answer or if you are on here anymore but if anyone is interested, I wrote the magazine that published it and this is the response I recieved:

My mother used to crochet and I think she called that pattern Railroad. But I don't crochet and I suspect the name is an old one. It may have a more modern name now.

--Nina Tumosa

So, im off to do some more research and will let you know if I find anything.

MGM
09-24-2010, 08:09 PM
If anyone discovers how to do this pattern, or finds it as a written pattern, I sure would love to find out how to do it! Now I'm on a mission to look in old crochet books to see if I can find instructions. I think this would make a very warm and cozy baby blanket or scarf!

If I get ahold of this pattern, I'll do a video tutorial on it and share it on my website.

MGM

daviddwilson
10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Oh blueygh2! Thanks so much for linking to my woven stitch! I've actually been thinking of adding a video tutorial to that post so it can be seen in action! I love this stitch and use it often, in fact I'm using it right now for a project using Boucle yarn which is notoriously difficult to work with. Using the woven stitch makes it usable!

As for a crochet stitch that uses two colors and looks like they are woven together, I actually have a pattern for a stitch like that which I have used for both baby blankets and also for one super huge full size afghan. I'll put it on my list of things-to-do and see if I can get a little tutorial up and share the stitch with you. Might not be what the original writer was looking for, but something to add to our list of crochet stitches!

MGM

Hi, when I saw your post I liked this pattern too. Im not sure if you found an answer or if you are on here anymore but if anyone is interested, I wrote the magazine that published it and this is the response I recieved:

My mother used to crochet and I think she called that pattern Railroad. But I don't crochet and I suspect the name is an old one. It may have a more modern name now.

MGM
10-01-2010, 11:32 PM
Hi, when I saw your post I liked this pattern too. Im not sure if you found an answer or if you are on here anymore but if anyone is interested, I wrote the magazine that published it and this is the response I recieved:

My mother used to crochet and I think she called that pattern Railroad. But I don't crochet and I suspect the name is an old one. It may have a more modern name now.

Hi David, thanks for the information. I've done some searches on google for different combinations of railroad and crochet to see if something similar to this would come up, but all I get is information on Tunisian crochet which is also called Railroad knitting. I did quite a few tutorials on that myself, but it is nothing like what is pictured in that magazine.

What an intriguing stitch that is! I sure hope we can discover instructions for it because it would be a real shame for a stitch like that to be lost.

Thanks again! I'll post again if I find anything and I hope others will too.

MGM

hyperactive
10-03-2010, 02:42 PM
I am hooked! I want that stitch!!!
Crochet is not my main craft, that is for sure, but I want to know how this stitch works. I will try to follow this discussion. My "Complete Guide to Needlework" from 1979 did not have anything on it. But with this stitch even I would make a blanket! Great look.

If I get across anything I will let you know. I may ask on ravelry since there are a lot of crochet-gods there.

hyperactive
10-04-2010, 05:04 PM
Hi!
I did post my question on Ravelry, and guess what.. I was not the first. There was already a thread about this and one user did not only link to that but also answered it all in one posting. The user was AmberShrugged. She rocks, in my eyes.
I did ask her permission to copy her post here and did receive it. Here is what she wrote and linked to:

AmberShrugged (links re-entered by me)
Take a look at this thread (http://www.ravelry.com/discuss/tunisian-crochet/1322231/1-25) on the Tunisian Crochet group. That thread has been archived, so here is a summary of the findings:

This is actually knit, not crochet. The stitch is called the woven basket stitch, and here is a pattern that uses it: Woven Basket Stitch Dishcloth (http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/woven-basket-stitch-dishcloth).

The picture is a stock photo that was taken from a site by someone for the article who doesn’t know crochet; it doesn’t actually show the lady from the article crocheting. The only crocheted portion is the edging (which is why the pic shows a crochet hook). iStockPhoto source (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-8425579-old-lady-s-hands-doing-crochet.php)

The crochet stitch which probably comes the closest to duplicating this look is the granite stitch/seed stitch as shown in Love Scarf (http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/love-scarf), Seed Stitch Square (http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/carlindas-seed-stitch-square), and Seed Stitch Trivet (http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/seed-stitch-trivet).


So, does that answer everything?


Edit: I just had to try it.
Well, you have to work relatively loosely. But here is my sample.
http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/13/80/47/60/woven_10.jpg

I don't think this is the fastest stitch I ever worked but it isn't bad either.

I would recommend not to cast on your full amount of stitches for garter stitch base rows. Mine flares a bit and I would say: cast on a few less and increase evenly in the row before the woven stitch. For my 20 stitches I might have done will with 4-5 stitches less.

MGM
10-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Fabulous! So now we can all give it a try and see if we like making it as much as we like looking at it! I was really hoping this was a crochet pattern because I can crochet much faster than I knit, but I'm still going to try this and see if I like doing it!

Thanks so much for posting the link to such great information on this stitch!

MGM

hyperactive
10-05-2010, 03:16 AM
see, for me it is the other way around, due to practice: quicker at knitting than at crochet.
The pattern was really easy once you get it. On the purl rows I had a little trouble sliding into the 1st st on the needle after purling the second, because they started sliding too close together. But you get used to it.
I think of making something - proably not a blanket, but I am not the dishcloth-type either. Maybe a bad over a sweater, like the bottom part or the shoulder section in this stitch and then on straight or something.
Maybe a scarf totally in this pattern, or just the end sections? Or maybe the neckwarmer I make for my mum for xmas... That would make that look interesting and make the fabric dense (I just have to check, how much yarn I got for that since I bought that on vacation and do not want to run out before the end...)
I'll be interested to see everybodys samples and hear experience.

PS: The pic we had as a starting point was done on really big needles, I suppose. My holes in the middle of the patternsections are not as big as they are there. I like the holes better in the pic than in my sample.

OffJumpsJack
10-05-2010, 11:32 PM
I checked the link to the Tunisian thread on Ravelry and found post 15 by Catmouse76 (http://www.ravelry.com/discuss/tunisian-crochet/1322231/1-25#15) mentions a crochet (Tunisian) example that was similar to the knit woven basket stitch.

Here is the link and see who it pointed to?
http://www.hookedonneedles.com/2008/07/how-to-crochet-woven-stitch.html

Our very own MGM.

So the crochet alternative has been called the granite stitch, seed stitch, and woven stitch.

I know the pattern referred to as the love scarf and I based a poncho on that stitch which I know better by the name of woven stitch (which I found more commonly applied). Seldom to novice Internet based designers place dates on their pages so I can't say which name is older.

But most importantly, 20 house point to hyperactive for finding the answer to the mystery. I was beginning to think the item in the photo was made by one of those loom toys used with the stretchy loops of bright colored fabric. :oo: Thank you hyperactive for finding the Ravelry thread with the answer. :thumbsup:

Anyone else find it surprising that they used stock photo of knitting in an article about crochet? How about when the article is published by Saint Louis School of Medicine in the Newsletter for their department of geriatric medicine. One would think a University would do better than to make such a mistake. :doh:

hyperactive
10-06-2010, 08:14 AM
I happily accept the house points. I am a Grifindor Girl, myself, so please up the score! :woot:
Finding that was really easy, finally, though. It wasn't me unearthing the thread but asking the right people (in second attempt).

If you click to the stock photo you see why it was chosen... the search was minimal. The istock keywords are:
Crochet, Senior Adult, Human Hand, Craft, Senior Women, Close-up, Human Finger, Textile, Human Thumb, Needlecraft Product ...more
So... no, I would expect a better research, I totally agree. That is why I try not to write about things I do not understand.

The technique you found for crochet was my first brain spark when seeing this pic. I set out to make a piece. Then compared to the picture and ... no, the diagonal does not happen. The slanting strands were not what I wanted.
I thought this was just for my lack of crochet-creativity and that it would go someway like this.
But a straight-line weaving you can do. Might look pretty good in varigated yarn because the colors "jump" then.

MGM
10-06-2010, 03:57 PM
That's pretty funny that the ravelry thread referred to one of my tutorials! Pretty cool, actually!

I printed out the instructions for this knit stitch and gave it a whirl. After 2 rows, I could tell this was not the stitch for me! I did not like doing it at all. So not being one to torture myself, I ripped it out and moved on!

This was an interesting mystery though!

MGM

aleksandraa
10-11-2010, 01:05 AM
Hi All,

I may have a lead for those of you that are still interested. Someone told me that they think its actually a knit stitch as seen here

http://www.stumblingoverchaos.com/archives/446

I was hoping to learn a new crochet stitch but I'll give this a try and see how it goes. Thanks to all of you for your help :p

Aleksandra