Hello everyone!!:waving:

I thought Id move us over here so we can talk about the things we run accross during this test knit so everyone can see, in case they had the same question...and help each other out.

If anyone wants to join us to test this (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98540)....please private me your email and i will send you the pattern.


It has been brought to my attention(ty Crycket) that the yardage may be somewhat of an over exaggeration.
I did the shawl on less than 1100yds but im a tight knitter and wanted to make sure there were yarn requirements suitable for all types of knitters.

Please keep track of the yardage, and let me know what you used when your done.

This is soooo exciting!! :woot:
:knitting:
Melissa

It was just math. According to the pattern, 6 balls @ 166 yrds is 996 yrds...but the truth was it was 5 balls @ 166 yrds and 1 ball at 199 yrds, and that would make it around 1029.

The only reason this was a topic of discussion was because I have 1093 yrds of Luxury Alpaca Cashmere in a fingering type weight. Therefore, just making sure I will make it. I really should, as long as there aren't any long lengths of flawed yarn.

Either way...very exciting...it is always good to over estimate the yardage a bit. Just in case.

Can't wait...

Ok...just started, very exciting too...I have never done a Provisional Crochet cast on before...neat-o

Anyway..was browsing my chart legend, and you have a C4F in there...but no cable needles mentioned in your Notions....

Unless of course I am blind....in which case...ignore me...*smiles*

Ok...just started, very exciting too...I have never done a Provisional Crochet cast on before...neat-o

Anyway..was browsing my chart legend, and you have a C4F in there...but no cable needles mentioned in your Notions....

Unless of course I am blind....in which case...ignore me...*smiles*

Yayyy!! :woohoo: How exciting! Have had a very busy weekend (Easter, work, college hoops final four), but I should be starting tomorrow. :woot:

By the way, I also noticed the cable needle missing from the notions section.

ok Im an idiot....
i will add it ....
Thanks for the catch!!!

Now on to the next one.:roflhard:

Stupid question - when knitting on row 2, do you just knit/purl though the yarn overs, or is one meant to ktbl?

Nevermind, I found what was throwing me off....

The YOs that follow purl sts then lead into a S1 K2Tog PSSO don't really need to be YOed. The yarn is already in front. I had gotten to row two and had a double YO in those spots and it was throwing me off.

Man...Lace, not for the tired or distracted....*sigh*...

cool...
Yea lace is very demanding...rest assured tho, when you get to the 3rd or 4th repeat, you will be doin it much easier. I had it memorized by then.

check my other post out (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97894)....Ive taken pics of some of the stitches..and it talks about the types of yo's ive used in this pattern.

That was nice and clear cut. *smiles* Once I had gotten though the first two rows (for the third time) I got it! *smiles* But that is me with any lace. It always takes an orientation period!

Hopefully today I will motor though some of it! *knock on wood*

I have started and frogged this thing about 10 times already this afternoon....*grr*

is there someway i can help you?

Is it the pattern thats messing you up?

I was messing myself up...I think. Either way...I seem to be going now *knock on wood*...I apparently was messing myself up with some of the yarn overs...and it really was kinda a rooky mistake...which is kinda embarrassing...I have done lace before!!

Anyway...I am now on row 8 with a life line in place...crisis averted...!

Oh...and a little chocolate came to the rescue too!

Good Deal!!!

Chocolate is wonderful ain't it???

Almost as good as lifelines...

Glad to hear your doin good now.. :yay:

Yep...definately my own stupid mistake, but however it was I changed what I was doing, seems to be making it work! Already to row 12, and I could have had more done if it wasn't for that pesky dinner hour!

Just so you know...I am kinda using this to blog my journey....just cause I can! *winks*

that pesky dinner hour!

yea i dont get why my family wants to eat all the time....

Just so you know...I am kinda using this to blog my journey....just cause I can! *winks*

thats AWSOME!! that way i can see whats goin on too.


How are you doing Dimpledapple??

Ok...I am up to row 19 and I think I have something wonky going on in my middle section. I could be wrong.

I don't think this picture is doing me any good, but between me holding the camera and DHs hands, it was the best I could do...

It looks weird in the middle...is it supposed to look like this? I know it is hard to tell not all blocked out...it just looks like something is shifted...in which case it is probably my fault....

What do you think?

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ok...I think I have pin pointed it, still think it might be my error, but there is definatly one there...it seems to be in row 7. I am going to tear back and try again...

Your cable cross looks like its hitting the mark, but it does look a bit...shifted further up, hard to tell in that pic. but i gotta tell you, i cant put into words how i feel to see it knitted by someone else...keep the pics commin!!

The pic in the link i gave you about yo's, isnt blocked, you can use it as a guide if you want.

did you get it figured out?

I am literally back at row 1, giving it a try from there...I was looking at your other pics and it was definatly off. Don't know how much longer I will be able to plug at it today, but tomorrow is a new day!

looking deeper, I want to make sure you have a grip on the cable cross..it can screw ya up...i had hoped i wrote it clear enough. if you need help let me know...and then when we figure it out...ill rewrite it. maybe its the way i charted it. it should take up 7 stitches.

Is that a pic of the whole piece? i only see one cable cross.

I didn't think of it at the time...but on second thought, the first one may have come out wonky...the second one was fine. Something felt wrong when I was purling row 8 but only on one of the twists.

Man this pattern is making a noob out of me. I have done cables, and lace...really...check out my ravelry page....*smiles*

I didn't hit up the row 19 one, I noticed the error just as I got there..that is when I took the pic....it was only really the middle part, as my dh was holding the piece down, but not on the edges...so he may have been covering the second one up.

Long story short, I need something better than post it notes keeping my place, it was the C4F part I had to keep lifting them up for...*lol*

Well this isnt a normal cable...in my opinion...

You will get it...you got me teased now...i want to see it in that color....you HAVE TO :pout:

Get some sleep and come back to it refreshed...and bring a bowl of chocolate....:)

Long story short, I need something better than post it notes keeping my place, it was the C4F part I had to keep lifting them up for...*lol*
i use a magnetic board and a magnetic strip...but i used to just highlight the row when i got it done....

I do have one of those...but it has my cross stitch on it right now...I can't move it...*smiles*

Crycket, you're on fire!! Man, I feel so behind... I've cast on (I'm using KP Superwash since it makes up half of my stash) and definitely concur on the coolness of the provisional crochet cast-on. I'm taking pictures, but at the moment seem to have lost the little USB cable thingie so I'm not able to post them right away. Here's hoping all goes well... Crossed Fingers

Oh...not really on fire...I spent approx 10 hours knitting and frogging and am back to row 1 tonight...*sigh* I feel like the pattern kicked my *** today...but tomorrow will hopefully be better!

I like to take a mathematical approach and look at the amount of knitting you've done in terms of absolute values! :teehee: Here's hoping tomorrow is a better day for you!

A suggestion regarding the cable:

If you make the instructions for the C4F to be:

sl 4 st t cn, hold to front, yo, s1k2p,yo; sl left st from cn to left needle, p1, yo, sl3 from cn to left, s1k2p, yo

then you can realign rows 7 and 20

your description in the pdf uses 7 stitches but only makes 5.

I'm assuming it should match the row below and above only with the cross.

I'm assuming it should match the row below and above only with the cross.

Yes it should...but it uses 7 stitches and didnt know how to chart that...that was a sore spot for me when charting it.

sl 4---4 stitches
yo---1
sk2p---1
yo--1

it makes 7 too

the following row uses seven too....

tell me where im seeing it wrong?

you slip four - that uses none, creates none, just moves them.

yo = 1 made, none used

sk2p - 1 made, 3 used total 2 made, 3 used.

yo - 1 made, none used. totals 3 made, 3 used.

slip the leftmost stitch on the cn to the left, purl it.

makes one, uses one. totals 4 made, 4 used.

yo - makes one, uses none. totals = 5 made, 4 used.

slip remaining 3 stitches from the cn. s2kp makes one, uses 3. totals now 6 made, 7 used.

yarnover - makes one, uses none. seven made and seven used.

Confused...what does sk2p mean?

Nevermind, just looked it up....

skip one knit two pass stitch...got it

Ok I see.

Ive changed it now....if anyone wants the new chart let me know ill send it...

Ive asked mario if he would look at my pattern and all the technical stuff too...he is just consulting for us......
THANK YOU MARIO...:muah:

Yeah...I will need that new chart...*smiles*....

I was wondering if MMario was going to be joining us!

Is the change exactly what he said...can I just write it onto my existing chart?

looking at just the right hand portion; columns 7 to 15 counting from the right.

row one, 3, 11,13,15,17,19,21,23 are all:

YO, (double decrease) YO, purl 3, YO, (double decrease), YO = 9 stitches

Row 5 and 9 are:

purl one, YO, double decrease, YO, p1, YO, double decrease, yo, = 9 stitches.

row 7 should be:

p1, ( *** ), p1 = where ( *** ) is the crossover

but is charted as p1, ( *** ), yo, p1

If your stitch order for those seven stitchs is:

gfedcba

after the crossover they will be:

O ,(c), O, d, O, (g), O

stitches dcba are held forward
yarnover
stitches gfe decrease to form (g)
yarnover
purl stitch d
yarnover
stitches cba decrease to form (c)
yarnover
stitch


Does that make sense?

Ive asked mario if he would look at my pattern and all the technical stuff too...he is just consulting for us......
:

Not just consulting.....drooling over the pattern and wishing I had time to knit it!

Yeah...ok...just send me a new chart...MMario has got my head spinning...

theres no change in instruction....
just change in order on the chart.


check your email

Does that make sense?

I think you made it clear as mud to Crycket....:roflhard:

I think you made it clear as mud to Crycket....:roflhard:

:??

Am pretty, not smart....*smiles*

As I see it, there are people who can write patterns/music/books etc...and there are people that can follow/read such things.

I can follow a pattern...(though former posts would suggest otherwise) but I can't transpose thoughts from my head to the page, or transfer them to paper. As long as it says what it is supposed to...I will get through it...

It's not "smart" versus "not smart"; it's just different abilities; different viewpoints; different approaches.

Wierdly - one can sometimes look at one's own work and "see" what one intended - instead of what is actually written. (As I have seen, to my humiliation, over and over and over. Did you know 1 + 2 = 4?)

That is where having OTHER PEOPLE as proof readers, proof knitters and testers comes in incredibly handy.

As long as it says what it is supposed to...I will get through it...

Thats why i have you, to make sure it says what it is supposed to...LOL

did you get the new chart?

I did get the new chart...and I will be back on it like a fat kid on Smarties just after my shower....*smiles*

Thanks MMario...*smiles* I wasn't actually putting myself down...I just always liked the saying "I am pretty, not smart" when it came to things I don't understand...*smiles*....

Lissaplus2 - yep!

:aww: Ok Yall, I did some swatching due to Mario's pushing....LOL Thank You!!!:notworthy: :muah: (keep pushing...i can be stubborn. My husband says he feels sorry for you....:))

The Center panel chart is wrong:aww: ...I have sent all of you a new corrected chart....
Mario..please review yours and see if there are any other oopppsss.


back on it like a fat kid on Smarties

:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard:

Luckily my "Y - Chromosome Handbook" has taught me

Even though the man is always wrong; on (exceedingly) rare occasions the wrong way can be the correct path.

I am really hoping that sometime in the near future I can with great pride point to a magazine and say "Hey! I know the designer!"

ok...back to row 6, life line back in...and about to use the new and improved row 7 for the first time.....

*crosses her fingers*

Go Crycket!


MMario - who needs to finish a shawl, and start the boring samples for a closs in May.

ok...gotten past the dreaded 7th row, and it seemed to go smoothly (once I realized I was on the wrong chart and moved to the correct one...TGFLL)

Now on to the next set of rows where I will hopefully be able to tell if it looks right in context....

YEA!!!!!!!!! (Doing the Kermit crazy dance with arms waving)

LOL....ah...you made me miss Jim Hensen!

I did tell you to throw those others away first....

PICTURES....I NEED PICTURES..

Whether you did or not was not relative to my problem, I had them in my downloads file folder and I opened the wrong one. I am looking at the paper copy which is fine, but I used the wrong chart copy to see the C4F instructions, so I didn't have to move my stickies....I know...I am lazy!

You will get pics when I get my first pattern done! I am on Row 14....hold your horses woman!! *smiles*

OT:

a co-worker/former boss used to work with Jim Henson.
They both did some projects for Disney
The tales he tells of Jim and Kermit are incredible....

See...that is a dream I could have...I would love to work with Jim Hensons muppet shop...however there are two problems with that dream...

I am lazy and am not willing to move to London, New York or California to work for it...and more importantly I lack the time machine to be able to go back and work for the man while he was alive!!

*sigh* Oh well...I did meet someone who worked on Fraggle Rock, which was cool....but....It was a short meeting..it is really cool you have that 2nd degree of separation thing going on...

and for her next trick, Crycket will preform the dreaded 19th row, followed by dinner preparations...

Be Dazzled..

Be Afraid...

Be VERY Afraid...

dun dun dun.....

*gasp*

the tension mounts.....

the crowd is on the edge of their seats!

I can't LOOK!

Will it work? Will she be able to work row 21?

Stay tuned.......

(and now a word from our sponser) (cue music)

no need for apoligies for being silly...
we need all the silly we can get..


I want to know how Crycket feels about her work now? Is it smoother and easy to work? are things falling into place better? I, by far, wanted this to be frustrating for you...i know it was yesterday, but how about now?
( :tap: waiting for a picture):teehee:

AMAZING how one stitch can throw the whole thing off.

Also, I seem to have lost dimpledapple....?

Yes...far less frustraiting than yesterday! Going much smoother...and I was even able to work out two of my problems without having to tear back....

I might have photos tonight...but more likely tomorrow...I still need to get that 19th row done, and my back could use a bit of a rest...

"I, by far, wanted this to be frustrating for you..."??!!?? Now I see how you operate!!!

"I, by far, wanted this to be frustrating for you..."??!!?? Now I see how you operate!!!

That ment, I DIDNT want this to be frustrating...geezz :)

im going to make supper before i get into more trouble...

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