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salsa
01-01-2005, 07:49 AM
Sock-knitters of this board, I need HELP!!!!

I have been practising making socks now on double point needles and I absolutely love using double points because it just feels right.

BUT

I am to the point where I find that once I finish one sock, my elation quickly disappears as I contemplate the prospect of starting to make a second sock that is exactly the same. For me, the first sock is always exciting, and the second sock is such a chore to knit. Maybe I am the only one who feels this and I'm just a weirdo! :oops:

The other day when I was browsing the net looking for sock-knitting info, I wound up on the sockknitters site again, and I found a new tutorial for knitting 2 socks at the same time on 2 circular needles:

http://www.socknitters.com/2circs/index.htm

Now I am totally obsessed with this whole idea as it would mean that you can finish a pair of socks at the same time. No more facing the daunting task of starting the second sock!!! Woohoo!!! This looks like a sock-knitting method that I need to learn despite my present addiction to dpns.

The trouble is, I get lost following those tutorial instructions. :cry:

I have watched Amy's video on knitting with 2 circular needles - which totally explains the cast-on and how to start by dividing the cast-on stitches between 2 needles and then sliding them to the other end of the needles to join them. So you could cast on for one sock as per Amy's video. But then what do you do for the second sock?

Here is the part where I get lost:

http://www.socknitters.com/2circs/lessontwo.htm

It's the point at which she goes from picture 8 to picture 9. Picture 8 is great - I understand. But picture 9 is a complete mystery, as are all instructions beyond picture 9.

Help!

PS I am scared of doing a heel with this method too, but I don't want to think about that yet.

NeedleWerks
01-01-2005, 12:48 PM
HI... Picture 9 shows the 2 socks cast on and pushed close together. They are 2 separate socks. The heels you do one at a time. Her lessons are very good as that is how I learned to do 2 socks ata time. Now I am trying 2 socks on circulars toe-up from Queen Kahuna's creations.

salsa
01-01-2005, 03:22 PM
Thanks so much for your reply Debbie! I am actually still a bit lost though. How does Sharon join up the second sock? I can see how she has joined the ends for the first sock, but how does she do it for the second sock? Sorry if this is a dumb question!

NeedleWerks
01-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Here is her email address from her tutorial site.
sheronbg@yahoo.com

Good luck.

salsa
01-28-2005, 09:11 AM
Bumping an old thread of mine to say:

It helps when you have your two circs in your hot little hands and you get started. :lol:

I ordered 2 sets of 2mm addis from an online shop in the UK and after getting them and having everything in front of me, off I went.

Everything began to make sense. I even popped in a short row heel and toe.

The satisfaction upon finishing was wonderful. Two socks ready to wear. No more "second sock syndrome" for me!!! Yippppppeeeeeee!!! And btw, every positive thing you ever read about addis is true. They ROCK! I have one set of inox circulars and while they are ok, the addis have a practically unnoticeable join between the needles and the cable. Smoooooooth.

beldaraan
01-28-2005, 12:14 PM
My brother met a lady who knit some socks for him. He's been absolutely crazy for knitted socks since then. (When mom started knitting, he bought her all the supplies she would need to knit him socks as a birthday gift to her - book all about socks, dpn's, yarn, etc) The catch? This lady's nickname was "Two Socks" because you always got 2 different socks in a pair that never matched. If I recall correctly, she suffered from "second sock syndrome" as well 8)

Jouf
01-28-2005, 12:17 PM
Salsa - fantastic! I'm going to do the DI Mark's Sock Boot Camp with Foldedbird et al., but after that I'm on to trying the circular method with 2 at once.

Can't wait!

Jouf

oshnpashn
01-28-2005, 02:19 PM
Awesome socks. So glad to hear that the 2/2 works!! I know myself well enough that I'd finish one on DPNs and not want to do the other!! You have sparked me to get more circs and get started on my socks. Hopefully this weekend!!

oshnpashn
01-28-2005, 02:20 PM
One more thing, did you use her pattern or one you had?

salsa
01-28-2005, 07:08 PM
Beldaraan, I LOVE that story. That lady sounds like me!!! I have one sock sitting here looking at me begging for me to knit a friend for it soon. LOL

Jouf, it's really great once you get the hang of it. And once you're almost finished, you will be so excited that you will have 2 socks all at once to wear.

Oshnpashn, I didn't use Sharon's pattern to the letter. I just took her lesson as a guide (especially the cast on pictures). I watched Amy's excellent video about knitting on 2 circs quite a few times too, and that really helped me get the idea of what would be going on with 2 items on the 2 circs. So kudos too to our great guru Amy for her awesome video. :)

The pattern I used is basically this one:

http://hipknitism.com/classes/basic_ribbed_socks/index.shtml

It's set out in lesson form. You start by taking foot measurements and swatching. And then it shows you how to calculate how many stitches to cast on to make "socks that fit".

foldedbird
01-28-2005, 08:38 PM
I think this might be a great idea for our next Knit a Long after we do the boot camp socks!

Denise

beldaraan
01-29-2005, 12:04 AM
Socks on circs? That means more shopping for moi :D

clsimmons
01-30-2005, 11:09 AM
Just joined. I am learning the 2/2 method and found best results using two different color circular needles. Helps me know what I'm doing.
Catherine
Sock-knitters of this board, I need HELP!!!!

I have been practising making socks now on double point needles and I absolutely love using double points because it just feels right.

BUT

I am to the point where I find that once I finish one sock, my elation quickly disappears as I contemplate the prospect of starting to make a second sock that is exactly the same. For me, the first sock is always exciting, and the second sock is such a chore to knit. Maybe I am the only one who feels this and I'm just a weirdo! :oops:

The other day when I was browsing the net looking for sock-knitting info, I wound up on the sockknitters site again, and I found a new tutorial for knitting 2 socks at the same time on 2 circular needles:

http://www.socknitters.com/2circs/index.htm

Now I am totally obsessed with this whole idea as it would mean that you can finish a pair of socks at the same time. No more facing the daunting task of starting the second sock!!! Woohoo!!! This looks like a sock-knitting method that I need to learn despite my present addiction to dpns.

The trouble is, I get lost following those tutorial instructions. :cry:

I have watched Amy's video on knitting with 2 circular needles - which totally explains the cast-on and how to start by dividing the cast-on stitches between 2 needles and then sliding them to the other end of the needles to join them. So you could cast on for one sock as per Amy's video. But then what do you do for the second sock?

Here is the part where I get lost:

http://www.socknitters.com/2circs/lessontwo.htm

It's the point at which she goes from picture 8 to picture 9. Picture 8 is great - I understand. But picture 9 is a complete mystery, as are all instructions beyond picture 9.

Help!

PS I am scared of doing a heel with this method too, but I don't want to think about that yet.

Jouf
02-02-2005, 01:22 AM
I guess this is all very related to what I just posted on magic looping socks - only you use one long circular instead of two circulars.

If you read my post, you'll know how I feel so far. It's the same basic principle.

Maybe if I order an Addi Turbo 40" it won't be so bad. But I don't like having to watch the two yarn balls and getting them twisted up.

I'll try to finish a pair before I decide to just go back to DPN's.

Jouf

salsa
02-02-2005, 07:27 AM
Hi Jouf,

(I've been enjoying popping over to your blog and reading everyones' entries. I loved the pic of your sock with two colours - VERY nice. And those tulips!!!).

I've seen that magic loop pdf and it scared me. To me it looks like you may as well use two circs if you are going to get another needle involved in addition to the circular. But then again, I shouldn't judge until I've tried it.

I've knit one sock magic loop and I really didn't enjoy it much. I made myself do the whole sock to see if I would enjoy it by the end, but I didn't. I don't know why! I just thought "Well, if I'm going to just knit one sock, I may as well use dpns anyway". So the idea of using a bigger circ and an additional needle to do two socks at the same time "magic loop" is not for me.

As for knitting with two circs, yes, there are disadvantages like you found with that magic loop method:

1) Yes, the yarn gets tangled A LOT. When I first started out it felt like I spent so much time mucking about with the yarn and trying to keep it untangled. This is very annoying, and I can see how it would put some people off this method.

2) It did seem to take me longer to knit this pair if socks than usual on dpns. I put that down to:

(i) the constant mucking about with the yarn;

(ii) the fact that both my circs are the same length and thus look exactly the same. This meant I really had to concentrate on picking up the right needle everytime I turned the work to do the next row of the alternate sock. Everytime you have to stop and think which needle you're supposed to use, that's a waste of knitting time to me. With dpns you just cast on and go for it.

As clsimmons suggested, using 2 different coloured circs of the same diameter will help immensely with that problem. You have to have a way of visually differentiating one circ from the other (in the tute, Sharon uses a stitch marker I think). I couldn't find different coloured circs, but I just won a small lot of circs from an ebay.de auction and there are a pair of circs which are 3mm (US # 3) in diameter but have different length cords and a pair of 3.5mm (US # 4) needles with different length cords, so I am hoping to try these out and see if the different length cords will be a better visual que as to which needle to use next. If that fails maybe I'll paint a small stripe in one needle with household paint or something desperate like that!

(iii) Finally, I was using 2mm circs (US size 0). Usually I use 3mm dpns (US # 3) for socks. I have never had or used needles that small!!! I really like the final knit fabric you get from the smaller size needles, but it takes me longer to knit with the small needles. So once again, I can't wait to get the slightly larger diameter needles to see what will happen with those. Will it be easier or just the same?! I will report back to this thread when I finally get my needles and get started.

All in all, the only payoff with 2 circs method is that you get 2 socks instantly at the end. And that was why I used this method and why I will use it again despite the yarn problems and the time taken. I am just really BAD with procrastinating after the first sock is knit and this method is a good solution for me personally. If you're a sock knitter who doesn't suffer "second sock syndrome", don't think twice about abandoning your dpns. :wink:

Jouf
02-02-2005, 03:30 PM
Salsa, thank you so much for all the info. Glad you like my 2-colored sock. Just wanted to see how much trouble it'd be.

Like you, I'm going to try to finish this pair of socks before I pass judgment! LOL

And I'm only on row 2 of k2p2. We'll see how I feel when I finish the ribbing. I don't think you need another needle until you get to the heels. And really don't know if I'll make it that far yet! Then maybe I'll try the two circulars and see what I think. Actually think it might be easier too.

Well, now I've got two sets of socks to be working on!! I don't like unfinished business and life is SOOO full of it. Better get knitting.

Jouf!