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VictoiseC
01-20-2006, 07:18 PM
Welllll. I just got home from a job interview with a knitting store.

Ha ha ha. Quite an experience. I want a job so bad coz I haven't had one for awhile and I'm a bit lonely not to mention broke! So I've been going round to yarn shops....

and got called in on an interview today. I brought a great big heavy bag of stuff to show. I waited just about 1 1/2 hours past the time my appointment was for I figured, it's ok, they're busy, get to know the shop.... knit a bit.

Finally I was interviewed. I mentioned that I was online everyday with a wonderful knitting forum, the best! And just to try to get the job, I also said I sometimes give advice when people ask for help with their knitting.

BA BOOM!

This was a problem. I was informed if I got a job in this shop I could no longer, ever ever, answer anyone's questions about knitting, not online or in person, because they have a reputation to maintain and there could be PROBLEMS down the line if I say something they don't agree with. In fact they had had problems already.

It's KNITTING! KNITTING! KNITTING. not secret government policies!

They didn't want to look at my stuff at all. They said they might 'try' me out for a day to watch me, but the owner has to be consulted because I am on a knitting forum. Can you believe this??

I've decided I don't want to work there not at all.

Thank god I had the pleasant experience on the bus coming home of THREE women wanting to see my work, and oohhhhing and ahhhhing
over my creations & colors & ideas. THAT was REALLY NICE.

What a day. :rollseyes:

CarmenIbanez
01-20-2006, 07:20 PM
RUN do not walk from this job. The owner sounds PARANOID! Besides you wouldn't want to work anywhere where they might exclude US? Do you? DO YOU? :rollseyes:

Ingrid
01-20-2006, 07:29 PM
:?? What ever happened to "Go ask at your LYS if you need help?" Are they afraid they'll be sued if they answer a question wrong? What reputation could they have if they don't give advice? Oh. It's in Manhattan. I get it. ;)

vcuchica931
01-20-2006, 07:30 PM
That is RIDICULOUS!

brendajos
01-20-2006, 07:31 PM
okay i don't think i would even want to shop there after that!.....and to think all the business that they could potentially get from all the people you talk to here!

i wonder if the owner really is like that! have you shopped at that store before?

Yvonne
01-20-2006, 09:00 PM
What the heck kind of bizarro store is this???
Is knitting top secret now?
Or do they have expensive malpractice insurance against incorrect knitting advice or what?
I don't get it.
Don't work there!

WynnieG
01-20-2006, 09:03 PM
That is freaky beyond expression. If you told me that yarn store was located near me, I'd be boycotting it right now, and encouraging my companions to do the same.

ecuzzacrea
01-20-2006, 09:39 PM
wow - that sounds like quite an interview for selling yarn. LOL

seems like they're a little up-tight and you're better off.

Angelia
01-20-2006, 11:39 PM
That is the freakiest thing I've ever heard! What is WRONG with those people?

"We do not encourage the use of the m1 increase; you should have told the customer to kfb, which we find much more suitable. We'll be docking you a day's wages so that you will learn your place, plebian."

Since Kelly's sick, I'll say it for her:

FER CRYIN' OUT LOUD! :mad:

Pixywhispers
01-21-2006, 12:07 AM
Oh brother.

:rollseyes:

They need to get a life, and find something real to worry about.

You are better off without them. If they feel that way about something so harmless imagine what other "rules" they will have. tsk, tsk, tsk.

Candace

Danielle
01-21-2006, 12:23 AM
:shock: That is ridiculous! The nerve of that store! You are way better off without them! :thumbsup:

humblestumble
01-21-2006, 01:19 AM
That's strange. It's sad that people have to be so insecure about things to trivial. Que sera, sera. Glad to hear that you've decided not to work for people who feel so negatively about something so beautiful.

horve1
01-21-2006, 07:53 AM
Beyond weird! My favorite LYS sometimes has a wonderful woman just sittin' an' knittin' to give advice to anyone who needs it. I've asked a few questions - sometimes she knows, sometimes she doesn't - sometimes she's right, and sometimes (very rarely!) she's wrong - but it's nice to be able to get input no matter what. That store is way off track!!!!

BonnieM
01-21-2006, 09:27 AM
Yikes, that is beyond strange...keep looking!

njknitter
01-21-2006, 09:47 AM
What is the name of that store??!!?? I live in NJ not too far from NYC and might happen upon it unless I know to AVOID it like the plague!!!

Lynn

VictoiseC
01-21-2006, 10:59 AM
"We do not encourage the use of the m1 increase; you should have told the customer to kfb, which we find much more suitable. We'll be docking you a day's wages so that you will learn your place, plebian."


THAT IS SO FUNNY! That's just what I felt like while I was in there.... a low low lowly plebian. I took out my beautiful beaded shrug with the fancy frilled cuffs I designed, everyone thinks is fabulous and this person just stared at it like it was a dead fish. Said nothing.

Well I'm reading this first thing upon getting up and THANK YOU ALL for your funny and smart words! I was in a bit of a huff when I got home yesterday and ... yuk... I feel much better now.

I might have worded it wrong, I suppose IN the shop I could give some advice as long as it was in their way of thinking, it was OUTSIDE the shop I would not be allowed to give tips or advice but ESP on A KNITTING FORUM!

Something about knitting forum struck terror in this fellow's heart... oh and also I couldn't sell anything I made if I said I worked for them.
Oh FORGEDDABOUDIT! Let's not start the day with the same junk...

but I'm not going to put the name coz I really don't want to be uh,
what's the word, not evil, whatever! That would be just ugly and I don't want to have that here! Anyhoo... (NJknitter if you really want to avoid the place I'll email you!)

Oh and this :.....and to think all the business that they could potentially get from all the people you talk to here!

That's exactly what I thought! In fact another yarn shop that doesn't need anyone right now was really interested in "US" and had me write down the name.... now she was a smart owner.

Oh Ingrid! There are some fine shops in Manhattan, well, a few with horrible attitude, but then a few that got it right. Although, reminds me of a phone conversation I had once while looking for yarn: I called a shop I thought was in NYC and asked if they had a particular one and the woman was looking and chatting and laughing and then she said she had it so I asked her address and she was up in Syracuse. I said "Ah, no WONDER you're so nice!" She really laughed at that.

There are other shops for me! I'm going to another one to check out today. cheers, :heart:

Ingrid
01-21-2006, 11:38 AM
It just occurred to me why they might fear forums. Look at all the beautiful yarn on line! Look at the gorgeous pictures we post of yarn that arrived in the mail. How many of us are secretly in love with our UPS man? The internet is a threat to yarn shops, but with attitudes like they have, they're not helping the situation any!

feministmama
01-21-2006, 12:58 PM
I'm hearing that song by Garbage "I think I'm PAranoid" :happydance:

VictoiseC
01-21-2006, 01:14 PM
Yes, that's so true Ingrid! I get so much yarn as we all do (esp you!) by mail that is easy and often more affordable. When a yarn store person is lovely though, I often buy a skein or 3 just coz I like them and their store.
Ah well, it's their loss!


pa pa pa paranoid I want to hear that song!

brightspot
01-21-2006, 02:13 PM
The owner of the only LYS within 100 miles here was like that. One of her empoyees picked up her yarn to show me how to put the needle in one stitch and she about came unglued. Needless to say, the shop just went out of business! I had never seen a more unfriendly person. She should never have been running any shop let alone a yarn one. I only went there because it was the only place I could get my dpns. Every thing else was too expensive. I couln't afford to buy a single skein there. This summer I think that in the spring the neighbor and I are going to take a day trip to Washington and see if we can find some shops there. I have heard rumors that there are several. :happydance: But the weather has been too bad here to go now.

WynnieG
01-21-2006, 02:59 PM
Now, contrast that attitude with a yarn store in the Jamaica Plain neighborhood of Boston: Circles (http://www.circles-salon.com/aboutus.htm).

These wonderful folks think of themselves as a knitting salon first, a yarn store second. Their approach is completely the opposite of the sort of environment Victoise experienced. The owner is a truly beautiful soul.

It's a little ways away from me, but it's always wonderful when I can get over there. They're not just selling product, they're building community.

Angelia
01-21-2006, 03:09 PM
Yep, just found my Garbage CD...must play paranoid in honor of this store!

One LYS here is kind of strange; I mentioned this forum and some patterns and yarns I'd seen here, and they just looked at me like I'd just been swearing at them! Yes, we can get yarns online, but there's nothing like the hands-on xp of the LYS, and nothing like being in person with other knitters. Knitting is a tactile and very personal activity. I don't think some LYSs understand how important personal contact is. It's that kind of snobbiness and secretiveness that keeps me from going to this one LYS unless I absolutely need something that is a PITA to order online.

One of the staff is really nice, though--she pulled me aside to tell me about another shop, run by a former employee, b/c that other shop sells Noro (I'd asked about it). She whispered it, though, and said she'd get in trouble just for telling me about it, and asked me not to say anything. :shock: She also sat down with me and talked about socks ( :heart: ) for awhile since she was knitting a pair while working. (I can only dream of such a thing.)

What amazes me about poor CS in some stores is that it drives customers away, whether to other land-based stores or online; shouldn't stores, particularly those like LYSs, which are threatened by superstores like Hobby Lobby, WalMart, etc., want to keep customers in the stores and emphasize CS more? I don't get it. :??

VictoiseC
01-22-2006, 12:17 PM
Wynnie... thanks for posting that yarnshop, I'm going to have a look around in it and when I get up near Boston way will visit. Yeah, that's what it's supposed to be about, hanging out with other knitters is so cool. Unfortunately so many stores just want you there only if you are buying from them, lots of yarn. I'm racking my brain to figure out how to have a
knitting 'salon' or something like that up in the country this summer... at my house or somewhere in this little town I know.

(btw I just looked at Owen Potato ha!!! what a GREAT NAME)

Yeah Angelia, the most successful people it seems don't have to whisper and be afraid.... give the info out and be bigger for it, I've met some of those. This place is definitely not like that but I should've been forewarned when I read they 'do' fashion shows and teach models how to knit, the bored poor things.

:rollseyes:

Angelia
01-22-2006, 12:45 PM
I should've been forewarned when I read they 'do' fashion shows and teach models how to knit, the bored poor things. :rollseyes:

Oh dear. Yeah, that has "red flag" written all over it! :rollseyes:

lmc
01-22-2006, 02:39 PM
What an experience!!!!!! The knitters I sit with has a "leader/teacher/who sells yarn out of her home" but these group meeting/gatherings are free. I did overhear some talk that sounded like negative tittering about the NEW LYS that just opened up in our downtown area (its a tiny quaint old downtown refurbished in a welcoming way), but not liking gossip didn't want to ask for clarification.

Just know my experience in walking into the NEW LYS that the yarn was exorbinantly expensive...more beautiful than what I get at Michaels for sure, but out of my range. I did talk to a woman there who was running some classes and was very nice. They have a black board posted for hours to come in and ask questions and get help for knitting projects. This woman was even willing to talk to me about a crochet project I was having difficulty with even though she didn't crochet herself. She was not the owner. I hadn't joined this forum yet so have no idea what their outlook would be about it. I can understand the thoughts about competition but also see the wisdom in joining rather than competing and making friends rather than pushing people away! That particular woman you ran into sounded a bit ill in the noggin. Might need help. :??

Good luck in your job hunt. I hope you find a spot where they appreciate you and your talents and all you have to offer.

Lynn

Jeremy
01-22-2006, 05:31 PM
Contrast that with one of my LYS's, Saybrook Yarn where they charge $1.00 (thats right one dollar) to sit and knit and get advice for free from two of the knitting instructors (male :D ) every Thurs. night. They're smart because more often than not someone will buy a bunch of stuff during the night or browse the yarn. Even though I do buy stuff elswhere I also make a point of buying stuff there just because of the service they provide. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

VictoiseC
01-23-2006, 02:13 PM
Thanks for your good luck Lynn! It was actually a young fellow who seemed to be guarding the place like a ... well, I dunno. Don't want to think about it anymore! That's a nice experience you got going there Jeremy. Funny you mentioned they're guys. Coz this guy wasn't so nice, glad to hear there are such generous people out there. I can't believe you pay A DOLLAR! That's incredible. Classes here in the city are usually around $100 or more except for one place I know, Suss yarns which offers a $30 class that includes wine, or a marguerita and snacks. I have to check that out!

Cheers,

lmc
01-23-2006, 02:52 PM
:roflhard: Oh gosh I can just see me knitting on wine or a margarita! Oy, I drop stitches now and go into shock when I have just loops and have to put them back on the needle SOBER, I'd never get anything made with that "incentive". I already put them back the wrong direction as it is.

Knitting classes at the expensive/fancy YS in town are $15 per two hour session. (small town, CA)

VictoiseC
01-23-2006, 03:14 PM
Imc.... oh yeah... I know whatcha mean! Twas many the morning I had to rip stuff out after knitting on wine. I used to have so many problems getting the dropped stitches back on the needles and all of a sudden I know exactly what I'm doing... well, usually! It's great when you start to see the knitting with different vision, it'll come to you. As long as they're no margueritas in sight.... ha

lmc
01-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Dont drink while driving.
Don't drink while knitting!

Signed the sober knitter/learner

PurlyGyrl
01-24-2006, 11:59 AM
Victoise, are you sure that was a yarn shop and not an attorneys office???? I thought that amount of paranonia only typical of attorney offices! :rofling: (Can you tell where I work? ;))

Take Care!

Angelia
01-24-2006, 12:03 PM
:roflhard: :roflhard: :roflhard: