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Stonington
09-25-2006, 11:32 AM
DH and I are thinking about getting a puppy. We are very interested in Jack Russell Terriers. For those of you out there that may have one in your family..I am concerned because we both work full time and I am worried about leaving the puppy home alone all day. Are they a breed that would be too lonely to leave home alone? We visited some at a pet shop over the weekend and I fell in love. :heart: So bright eyed. I would love some in-put from this wonderful group!

Thanks so much!

anne
sebago, ME

dustinac
09-25-2006, 11:45 AM
I hate to say this but prolly not.. they are known to be very energetic and active dogs... my cousin has one and that little thing has so much energy it is never still.. I know she has to kennel him when she runs errands or take him with her.. she came home one day and her dh had left and not put him up... all her mini blinds chewed up and he was prolly 3at that time.... he has so much energy..they are really cute... I found this site (http://www.terrier.com/breed/breedmenu.php3) that says

The Jack Russell is a happy, bold, energetic dog; they are extremely loyal, intelligent and assertive. Their greatest attribute is their working ability, closely followed by their excellent qualities as a companion. A Jack Russell can be equally contented bolting a fox or chasing a toy in your living room, or equally adept at killing a sock in the living room or a rat in your barn. Their funny antics will continually amuse you, their intelligence seems to know no bounds and their assertive nature and boundless energy can at times be overwhelming.

sara_jayne
09-25-2006, 11:52 AM
Anne -

I have 2 Jack Russell Terriers at home - one is 1 year 9 months old and the other is 1 year 3 months. We adore the Jack Russell breed, just adore them.

However, when we got the first puppy we had NO idea what we were getting ourselves into....we were stupid and didn't do any breed research what so ever. We kept the puppy, did a lot of research and took training classes with the puppy and made it work, because we feel in love with the boy. We ended up getting a second one because we fell in love with him too. We LOVE having 2 - they play together and wear eachother out. It took a few days for them to get used to each other, but now they love eachother like they were brothers.

Jack Russells are VERY energetic and VERY smart which can lead to problems. They need to be exercised and played with and trained. If left up to their own devices they will tear your house apart! I'm lucky enough to work from home, so they stay out of the kennels all day but still need exercise. We found an off leash dog park that we go to several times a week, we play fetch in the house, work on tricks, and go for walks.

I think as long as you have them crated during the day while you are gone with lots of things to do (aka. Kongs, buster balls) they will be fine as long as you make a commitment to exercise their mind and body.

I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a Jack, afterall I do adore them myself! :heart: They can be such a great pet! Training them from the beginning is a must and they will excel in tricks too! They are a great breed because not only are they small but since the breeding line has been kept so pure there are relativley no health problems (there are no major breed standards, they are breed to work) and they do live for a long time (15 years).

I am a huge fan of Jack's and LOVE our two and all the others that I've met....I'm sure a Jack would be a great addition to your home! :)

And, just for fun, here are my boys, Sparky & Skeeter!
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h97/sarajbc/Puppies/puppiesoncouch.jpg

orcoastknitter
09-25-2006, 12:20 PM
In my opinion, please do not buy a puppy from a pet store. Most puppies that are in pet stores come from puppy mills or backyard breeders that breed just for the $$$. Please find a reputable breeder. Just because they say they are AKC registered doesn't mean a thing. Please research the breed before taking the plunge. I am in the process of purchasing a cairn terrier. I started my search by going to dog shows. I met and visited with a few breeders until I found the right one. I know it's a lot of work, but well worth it in the end.

Here are a few links to check out:

Parson Russell Terrier Association of America (http://www.prtaa.org)

Information on puppy mills, not a pretty picture (http://www.stoppuppymills.com)

American Kennel Club (http://www.akc.org)

Lieke
09-25-2006, 12:34 PM
In my opinion, please do not buy a puppy from a pet store. Most puppies that are in pet stores come from puppy mills or backyard breeders that breed just for the $$$. Please find a reputable breeder. Just because they say they are AKC registered doesn't mean a thing.


I totally agree on that. Never ever buy a pet in a pet store. They are just kept to make money really fast, but most of the times, the pets in the pet store aren't healthy.

About Jack Russels. We own one, we got him from a shelter, so there wasn't any breed-checking. We just fell in love with the enthousiastic little dog that loved humans so much. Well, we have known that. He teared our whole house apart while we were away. That took about 2 years. We were lucky. After that, he only took (and still takes) our shoes to the place where he sleeps. Fortunately no chewing involved. Jack Russels are energetic. We usually walk him about an hour ever day. He really needs that, even now he's 11 years old. When he was young, we could walk him all day, and he still wanted more.

Personally, I wouldn't take a dog when I was away from home all day. They really need a companion. But I think that's your own decision.

Stonington
09-25-2006, 12:47 PM
orcoastknitter - I agree, I would not purchase from a pet shop. But I can not resist going in to them if I am near. We have a few breeders quite close to us and my husbands cousin was a breeder for years and can share a quite a bit of information with us. He just retired but still has 2 at home. My biggest concern is that the pup will be lonely.

Thank you so much for the links. I will check them out as well.
:hug:
anne
sebago ME

In my opinion, please do not buy a puppy from a pet store. Most puppies that are in pet stores come from puppy mills or backyard breeders that breed just for the $$$. Please find a reputable breeder. Just because they say they are AKC registered doesn't mean a thing. Please research the breed before taking the plunge. I am in the process of purchasing a cairn terrier. I started my search by going to dog shows. I met and visited with a few breeders until I found the right one. I know it's a lot of work, but well worth it in the end.

Here are a few links to check out:

Parson Russell Terrier Association of America (http://www.prtaa.org)

Information on puppy mills, not a pretty picture (http://www.stoppuppymills.com)

American Kennel Club (http://www.akc.org)

Liliyarn
09-25-2006, 01:02 PM
This is a toughy. This breed needs *lots* and I cannot say that enough *lots* of attention, interaction, and exercise. I baby sat one for a few weeks.

I had to crate her so we could sleep at night. And I could tell you about the difficult time we had with her because we worked all day.

I can say this with absolute honesty....the dog wasn't natural. We never saw her sleep. Never. She never sat still. Not to eat or drink. All the pictures I took of her were blurs. Forget the energizer bunny. It really needs to be a Jack.

I was glad to see her go. It wasn't that she was a bad dog or a bad breed, she just didn't fit our lifestyle. Give me Bostons and give me Rat Terriers, but I'll never have a Jack Russell.

Moral of the message: Do breed research. The dog isn't cute when she's ripping up all your towels. Breeders are the best way to go because they put a lot of time into their animals and want to see them go to the right home. They will tell you if Jacks aren't for you.

brendajos
09-25-2006, 01:07 PM
That actually sounds about right for a Jack Russell. Them and dalmatians...freakishly high energy!

I would say, though, that most dogs are social creatures and don't do well when left home all day. They really are like kids who misbehave to get their parents' attention. There are doggie day cares in the world that you can take your dog to during the day and people who will come to walk the dog while you are at work. Or if you can go home during lunch to let them out even...

orcoastknitter
09-25-2006, 01:10 PM
I am all about research when looking into purchasing a dog.

My 62 year old co-worker purchased a Jack Russell on a whim. Not a good idea. The dog is tied out all day in the front of house. That just rubs me the wrong way. And the dog isn't potty trained yet!

Stonington
09-25-2006, 02:18 PM
:crying: I work over an hour from home... so popping home at lunch is not a option. The concern of having the puppy home alone is a real one. I hate to think that we will have to retire before we can seriously consider having a puppy... that is a few years off lol. Thank you all for your input, it means alot to me to hear all sides! :hug:

anne
sebago ME

koolbreeze
09-25-2006, 07:35 PM
they still sell puppies at pet stores!! i didn't know that. maybe because i don't go to the mall anymore. but the pet stores i do go to don't sell them.

fluffypechey
09-25-2006, 07:58 PM
Can I just say a puppy really shouldnt be left for long. They need to socialise the need lots of small meals, they need the potty, they need company.
I dont have experiance with this type of dog but in general very young animals really shouldnt be left for long periods of time.

Of course this is in my humble opinion.

l :hug: Sharon

orcoastknitter
09-25-2006, 07:59 PM
they still sell puppies at pet stores!! i didn't know that. maybe because i don't go to the mall anymore. but the pet stores i do go to don't sell them.

Unfortuately they do Kool. It just upsets me. About 60 miles from me, one mall has a pet store in it. I can't go anywhere near it! It's really sad because Bath & Body works in located right next to it! :!!!:

I have been waiting for over a year for my puppy. The breeder I am working with told me to be patient. And not to go through the newspaper and or pet stores. She has heard many horror stories. Plus she learned that there are numerous Cairn Terrier puppy mills here in Oregon.

Patience is the key when looking for the right dog. It's a lifelong commitment, to be taken seriously.

Sorry I will get off my soap box now.

koolbreeze
09-25-2006, 08:15 PM
hmmm i did not know that.

i've been looking into getting a Yorkie... but they are so expensive. i refuse to pay over $300 for such a small dog! anybody know why they cost so much besides demand?

KnitterDesigner
09-25-2006, 08:22 PM
WE have a Jack Russell that is about 2.5 years old. She so smart and energetic. Things everyone comes to see her. We have an older Australian Cattle Dog, and she keeps the Jack busy during day when we are at work. We crated her the first 6 weeks or so. but not after that She learned to use the "doggie" door within a couple of days. Really has chewed very few things. But when we are home, it is "play with me, play with me" all evening. She sleeps under the top cover in our bed, and sleeps all night long. We would for sure get another one, but they are smart and you do need to pay attention to them

Stonington
09-26-2006, 07:28 AM
Thank you KnitterDesigner and everyone for your thoughts and advice. The only pet shop that I have been in here lately has just a few puppies, although I do not know where they come from they do seem to get loving care. I do not like the mall pet shops or (sorry if I offend anyone) Petquarters.. type places. There have been several arrests here in "parking lots" people selling puppys out of the back of vans :verysad:

I am sure we will not make a decision quickly - or lightly. Thank you all so much again! anne :hug:

RachelJean
09-26-2006, 08:44 AM
I would suggest that you go to your local animal shelter and consider adopting a homeless dog. An older dog might be better for you, and puppies grow up to be dogs anyway.

Besides, you might just fall in love with a mutt...like we did. Here's our girl, Bumper.

Stonington
09-26-2006, 08:53 AM
Rachel, :hug: Bumper is sooo cute... I am not sure of all of his reasons but DH is really hung up on a pure breed. He has told me some of his concerns... health, temperment.... and so on. I have suggested shelters & shown him various pet rescue websites.. lol. Not so subliminal messages lol.

anne
sebago, ME
I would suggest that you go to your local animal shelter and consider adopting a homeless dog. An older dog might be better for you, and puppies grow up to be dogs anyway.

Besides, you might just fall in love with a mutt...like we did. Here's our girl, Bumper.

fluffypechey
09-26-2006, 09:35 AM
I would suggest that you go to your local animal shelter and consider adopting a homeless dog. An older dog might be better for you, and puppies grow up to be dogs anyway.

Besides, you might just fall in love with a mutt...like we did. Here's our girl, Bumper.

I totally agree. What about my nephew Ickus??? He was adopted at age 8.
He is so gorgeous and so happy he was rescued from the shelter.
What do you think gorgeous or what?

Great idea please consider it!! :cheering:

:hug: Sharon

Stonington
09-26-2006, 09:44 AM
lol yes your "nephew" is gorgeous... Love the name too "Ickus" Is there a story there? Thank you for sharing that wonderful picture! :hug: anne
I would suggest that you go to your local animal shelter and consider adopting a homeless dog. An older dog might be better for you, and puppies grow up to be dogs anyway.

Besides, you might just fall in love with a mutt...like we did. Here's our girl, Bumper.

I totally agree. What about my nephew Ickus??? He was adopted at age 8.
He is so gorgeous and so happy he was rescued from the shelter.
What do you think gorgeous or what?

Great idea please consider it!! :cheering:

:hug: Sharon

fluffypechey
09-26-2006, 10:01 AM
Oh thanks for that. We think he is gorgeous. He came with the name Ickus and because of his age it seemed right to keep it. Although my mother whos dog it is kept saying what is it (when we were in the process of adopting). I used to say its Ickus sounds like knickers. I have since found out that Ickus was a character around 8-10 years ago on a kids Nickolodeon(sp) program.

So really its Ickus sounds like knickers lol. He is the best doggy I love him to bits. He knows his 'auntie' spoils him.

:hug: Sharon

09-26-2006, 10:26 PM
What about a Jack Russell Rescue group?? They should have one. I agree with everyone on the mall dogs. Do not ever go in and most of all purchase anything from them. You're just supporting the puppy mills of america. It's just plain sick.

You can't sell children in malls, why can you sell an animal?? I should stop before I get more annoying. Animals are my life and it just kills me to see them hurt.

Just do your homework, and if you really want a dog then do the doggy day care. Just try to get one that has cameras in them so you can see how your pup is doing during the day.

Good luck, animals are a blessing to be able to have. :heart:

Stonington
09-27-2006, 08:10 AM
Doglover, we will do our homework -- dh always tells me I investigate things to death lol. Runs in my family. Thank you for your input, I will look into rescue groups specifically dealing with JRs. Just out of curiosity... formerly from CT myself.. what part of the state are you from.. (got a kick out of your quip under your name) :rofl:

anne
sebago, ME
formerly mystic, CT

What about a Jack Russell Rescue group?? They should have one. I agree with everyone on the mall dogs. Do not ever go in and most of all purchase anything from them. You're just supporting the puppy mills of america. It's just plain sick.

You can't sell children in malls, why can you sell an animal?? I should stop before I get more annoying. Animals are my life and it just kills me to see them hurt.

Just do your homework, and if you really want a dog then do the doggy day care. Just try to get one that has cameras in them so you can see how your pup is doing during the day.

Good luck, animals are a blessing to be able to have. :heart:

frostywolf
09-27-2006, 01:17 PM
Hey, brand-spankin-new member here.

I have a 5 1/2 year old JRT. He's extremely high energy, and when I don't get him enough physical AND mental stimulation, he lets me know by getting a bit destructive.

How many hours at home alone are we talking about here? Do you and hubby work the same time, or do you overlap a bit to cut down the potential time alone?

Also, what exactly are you looking for in a dog? Do you want a companion to take jogging, participate in canine sports (agility, flyball, rally-o etc.)? Or do you want a dog who will sit with you when you come home, getting scritches and maybe a little playtime.

Visit terrier.com for loads of info on JRTs. They have links to RussellRescue as well. The following comes from the site, and is required to be reviewed by any applicant of RussellRescue. It's not the norm, but it's the reason most JRTs end up in shelters/rescue...

Jack Russells ...
... are first and foremost hunting dogs. The traits and skills that make them excellent hunting dogs (i.e., digging, barking, aggressive nature, ability to follow scent) are often interpreted as bad habits that cause people to give them up.

... are bred to go underground, following scent to locate and bark at quarry until they are dug down to or the quarry bolts. If they do not have an outlet for their natural instincts, they will invent new and fun jobs for themselves, which frequently include guardian of the world and/or their possessions and family, chasing cars, hunting birds, bugs or leaves, or endlessly digging in the soil.

... are a big dog in a little body. They have the same need (or more!) for exercise as a much larger dog... and the mentality to match -- they think they are at least 150 pounds, and are fearless, often challenging other dogs three times their size.

... are often aggressive with other dogs. Same-sex aggression and aggression towards other breeds of dogs is well documented with this terrier. It is strongly recommended that no more than two Jack Russells (of opposite sex only) ever be permitted to stay together unattended.

... are NOT a non-shedding breed! All coat types shed! Smooth coats shed the most, dropping hair continuously year round. Rough coats maintain the guard and dead coat, requiring manual shedding a few times a year. The broken coat is an intermediary coat, between the two types.

... require firm, consistent discipline. They are extremely intelligent, continue to test their limits throughout their life. More often than not, train their owners before the owner knows what has happened! This ability to train their owners can include displays of aggressive behavior. Their assertive nature must be understood and handled properly!

... can become very possessive of their owner or a favorite member of the family or of what they consider to be their personal property if allowed to do so to the point of showing aggressive protective behavior that must be controlled from an early age.

... are commonly known to harass, injure or kill other small pets, such as cats, birds, rabbits, mice, rats, etc., simply due to their strong natural hunting instinct. Raising a puppy with a cat does not guarantee the cat's life-long safety!

... remain active well into their 15-year-plus life span; their need for activity and desire to hunt continues for their entire lifetime. Untrained, unsupervised dogs rarely meet their life expectancy.

... require at least basic obedience training. The dog's life may depend on it! Even well trained dogs will be tempted to chase something interesting, or even disappear into a hole while you are not looking. Off-lead is always a dangerous situation for a Jack Russell unless in a safe environment with experienced JR owners.

... absolutely need a securely fenced yard! Jack Russells will roam due to their hunting instincts.... even if left in an unsecured for a few minutes! You can let them out every day for three years with no trouble....but one day they will disappear and may never come back. Many JR's have been killed by cars by darting into the road in pursuit of a squirrel, cat, etc. They can also dig under, climb or jump over fences; some can climb trees and any height chain link fencing.

... can be very destructive if left unattended and unemployed! Most behavioral problems are due to a lack of companionship, discipline, activity and exercise. If you've only seen perfect, well-behaved JR's, they are ones that were lucky enough to be exercised, well socialized, and trained.

... are country dogs. When made to live in a city or suburban-type environment, their needs and instincts do not change. It would be unreasonable to expect them to be anything other than what they are genetically bred to be -- a serious hunting dog. Your lifestyle must be adjusted to meet their needs; they must have jobs to perform -- an outlet for their considerable energy and intelligence.

... are NOT recommended as apartment or condo dogs. They need a great deal of exercise and outdoor activity, and are usually too loud for such high-density living. They need room to run; leash walking does not satisfy their boundless energy. Unless your schedule permits many hours at home and a lot of outdoor activity, with a safe place the terrier can run, this is not the dog for you. MANY rescues come from apartments, condos, or homes where the owners work away from the home for long periods of time.

... will NOT TOLERATE even unintended mistreatment from a child. They will not put up with typical child handling such as pulling of ears, tails, etc., or taking or "sharing" of the dog's bones, food, toys, etc. They are very assertive and demanding, and never still... jumping all over whoever will allow it. Jack Russells are not recommended for households with children under the age of six unless you are previously experienced with this feisty little bundle of energy.

... are NOT as they are portrayed in the movies, on TV, or other forms of media. Those dogs are professionally trained and handled, and are very obedient only for VERY short periods of time. Celebrity dogs have their needs met by the trainer, and perform their jobs accordingly.

... require a long-term commitment to obedience, activity, exercise and entertainment... their unique character, intelligence and high energy level can frustrate you, will undoubtedly entertain you, and can bring you great joy (when they're happy!) or great grief (when they're not!). If this type of relationship does not appeal to you, then consider another breed. Jack Russell Terriers are always a work in progress!

Please remember... Russell Rescue, Inc. is very
busy with displaced terriers because
MANY PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE LIFE
WITH A JACK RUSSELL TERRIER!

Sorry my first post was so long, but I love the breed, and strongly feel that it's not for everyone.