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Arielluria
03-14-2007, 10:07 AM
The daughter of one of the members on my Bible study forum (http://www.khouse.org) is going through chemo treatments and I thought I'd make her a cute girly chemo cap to brighten up her days. I'm still a beginner, so it needs to be easy and fast and I can also use tips on which yarn(s) to use.

Thanks!

Miss Moosey
03-14-2007, 10:21 AM
This is the best link for chemo cap patterns and tips; there are a couple of patterns that are sized for younger children.

http://www.bevscountrycottage.com/cancercaps.html

Here is a yarn tip: use very soft yarn! A lot of people who lose their hair can have very very very sensitive scalps. Therefore, some yarns can be irritating. The softer, the better.

Rebecca

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Thank you! I don't have any kids, so I will follow the pattern, but have no one to try it out on. I will buy baby yarn.

How about Yarn Bee's Chenille like I'm using for my Textured Chenille Sweatshirt (http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/viewtopic.php?p=376362)???????????

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 10:36 AM
Here's an adorable Beehive Hat (http://www.knitlist.com/00gift/beehive-hat.htm). I won't be making this one, because she wants pink, but it's cute nonetheless!
http://www.knitlist.com/00gift/bee-hat.jpg

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 10:49 AM
I found this one for a Chinchilla Hat (http://www.knitlist.com/98gift/chinchillahat.htm), and it calls for Chinchilla Yarn. I've never heard of that. Is it soft? Affordable?

Jan in CA
03-14-2007, 10:54 AM
Here's a few yarns that would work or any soft yarn will do.
Knitpicks Shine (http://www.knitpicks.com/yarns/yarn_list.aspx?searchType=KeyWord&page=1&pagesize=10&newWeek=6&keywords=shine&titleName=shine&numberShown=1) - a nice soft cotton blend in pretty colors
Microspun (http://www.joanns.com/catalog.jhtml;$sessionid$KV13CRQAADCV2P4SY5LRHOR50 LD3UEPO?CATID=82241&PRODID=168672&source=search) I made a couple dishcloths from this and it's sooooo soft!
Bernat Softee Baby (http://www.bernat.com/product.php?LGC=softeebaby)

Here's a few cute hats, but again any hat will do.
http://www.kidsknits.com/piece_of_cake.htm
I created this one and it can be made any size.
http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/viewtopic.php?p=203018&highlight=bow+hat#203018

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 10:59 AM
This child's chemo cap is SO cute, I had to share, JIC anyone is also looking:
Flore Hat (http://www.knitwhits.com/flore.shtml)
http://www.knitwhits.com/images/flore.jpg

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 11:04 AM
I created this one and it can be made any size.
http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/viewtopic.php?p=203018&highlight=bow+hat#203018
:notworthy: Jan that bow hat is TERRIFIC, I think THAT'S it! I know any hat will do, but I'm picky. Yours is awesome! I don't know the little girl, but her dad told me via email that she's into pink & pink.

I love the little tie, I will make a couple of different colors so she can change it if she gets bored. You mentioned in that post that you would submit a more complete pattern, is this not complete? Can you PM me a complete one if not????????

I may have some questions about the pattern. I'm bad about directions, but I usually eventually find my away. Like I said, I don't have any kids, but I guess I can borrow one to try the hat on. Will your instructions fit a 4-year old's head???????? Will it get bigger when it's washed/blocked?

:oops: Sorry if those are stupid questions, I'm still fairly new at this.

Jan in CA
03-14-2007, 11:16 AM
I'm glad you like it! :cheering:

I don't have a 4 yr old around to measure either. It was made with worsted weight yarn for this size so keep that in mind. I'll make one up today to make sure it's all good.

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 11:36 AM
Thanks!!!!!!!!!! :muah:

I'm still unclear on the whole yarn weight thing. Worsted weight = baby yarn?????????

Jan in CA
03-14-2007, 12:26 PM
You need to learn about yarn weights if you want to make garments that fit properly. Worsted is heavier weight than baby. Here's a few links to help.

Standard Yarn Weight System (http://www.yarnstandards.com/weight.html)
Reading a yarn label (http://www.knittingwisdom.com/reading-a-yarn-label.htm)

I've cast on for the hat in sport weight.

aineepooh1
03-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Arierulluria~

this is just been my experience but Chenille does not "give" much when you knit. In my expeirence it is hard to work with and also it probably is not machine washable so probably not a good idea for the little girl or her parents to wash it. :shrug:

I bought Boocoos of lion chencille thicknquick when I first started knitting...I finally just had to give up~!! :wall:
For me it just won't "give' enough to work with!

The bernat softee baby is SUPER soft and machine washable~! I have a swatch I made and it feels great~

dont forget to post pics~!!

Ainee

Julie
03-14-2007, 03:00 PM
Lu, I have a kids' version of this hat (http://www.headhuggers.org/patterns/kpatt18.htm) -- I made the sample in KnitPicks Shine and it's sooo soft. :D Just PM me if you would like me to send you the pattern.

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 03:13 PM
I just bought some Bernat Softee Baby @ Walmart. I wasn't sure whether I should, because it IS 100% acrylic and everyone says to use natural fibers because a chemo patient's head is more sensitive. BUT it was so soft I figured it would be OK.

Jan you are SO sweet, thank you! What needle size are you using? Let me know what gauge you got too. As soon as you tell me I'll be casting on to see how it goes for me.

I definitely WILL post pics! :eyebrow:

Limey
03-14-2007, 04:27 PM
Hi

I know that someone posted earlier Bev's Country Cottage but below is a link to the size page

http://www.bevscountrycottage.com/size-chart.html#hat

I use the softest baby yarn I can find to make chemo caps and they seem to be fine.

There's an interesting idea for making hats with hair, rather than a full wig which can be itchy and hot in summer.

www.HatswithHair.com is a company based in Florida - they're extremely helpful and friendly.

All the Best

Limey

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 05:27 PM
Thanks Limey (great name for a Brit, BTW ;))!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happydance:

Jan in CA
03-14-2007, 08:11 PM
I just bought some Bernat Softee Baby @ Walmart. I wasn't sure whether I should, because it IS 100% acrylic and everyone says to use natural fibers because a chemo patient's head is more sensitive. BUT it was so soft I figured it would be OK.

Jan you are SO sweet, thank you! What needle size are you using? Let me know what gauge you got too. As soon as you tell me I'll be casting on to see how it goes for me.

I definitely WILL post pics! :eyebrow:

I am getting close to done and I changed the pattern a bit, but will have the original as an alternate method. I am use Bernat Softee Baby and size 3 and 4 - 16in circs. I'll post a picture and tell you the specs soon..and the pattern of course, too.

Arielluria
03-14-2007, 08:19 PM
Jan, you're an angel!!!!!!!!!!!! :muah: :muah: :muah:

Mommy22alyns
03-15-2007, 11:47 AM
If you like, I have a 4 year old and I can measure her head for you.

:pout: My heart twinged when I saw the title of this thread. I couldn't even imagine... My thoughts will be with that little girl.

Jan in CA
03-15-2007, 12:04 PM
If you like, I have a 4 year old and I can measure her head for you.



That would be helpful, thanks!

Arielluria
03-15-2007, 12:31 PM
If you like, I have a 4 year old and I can measure her head for you.

:pout: My heart twinged when I saw the title of this thread. I couldn't even imagine... My thoughts will be with that little girl.Yes, great! Thank you!!!!!!!!

The little girl is on her 6th treatment her dad told me in email and thankfully no side effects. :pray:

Jan in CA
03-15-2007, 02:55 PM
Pattern done and posted on my blog linked in my sig. Also sent you a PM, Lu.

Arielluria
03-15-2007, 03:01 PM
:muah: Thank you Jan, will print it out and PM me if you need help with Blogger. Check my blog out and see if that's what you want. I can send instructions. It's super easy Lu Knits (http://luknits.blogspot.com)

BTW, I'm doing a swatch with that baby yarn I bought yesterday. Does it get BIGGER when you block it? It's so soft, it seems like it will just fall apart. I like sturdy things, especially for little kids.[/url]

Arielluria
03-15-2007, 03:02 PM
BTW, Jan, I added a link to your blog from mine ;) It's a good way to keep track of blogs you like and be able to access them when you want to without having to remember their address.

Jan in CA
03-15-2007, 03:37 PM
I wouldn't bother blocking it... Softee baby is acrylic and acrylic doesn't block. ;) I haven't washed it yet so I can't say for sure, but I don't think the size will change much if at all.

Arielluria
03-15-2007, 03:47 PM
You're right. I guess that's ONE good thing about using Acryllic. Then perhaps THIS (http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/viewtopic.php?p=405190&highlight=object#405190) wouldn't happen! :roflhard: It was Lion Brand Homespun. :doh:

Jan in CA
03-15-2007, 03:49 PM
Isn't homespun acrylic? :?? I think the doggie looks cute anyway!

Arielluria
03-15-2007, 05:03 PM
Jan,

:muah: Again, I can't thank you enough for ALL that work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This may also kickstart me into making lots of chemo caps which I've wanted to do for a couple of months now!

Question about needle size:
you start with size 4 and go to size 3 needle? Just making sure, I'm still new at this, but thought you'd start with the bigger to get that rolled brim. But what do I know! :pout:

RE eyelet row:
how many rows should you do that for? I looks like more than 1 row on the photo but again, what do I know!

RE I-Cord:
I've never made that before........I can't imagine 3 stitches total (1 on each circular needle?????????)

Jan in CA
03-15-2007, 08:05 PM
Question about needle size:
you start with size 4 and go to size 3 needle? Just making sure, I'm still new at this, but thought you'd start with the bigger to get that rolled brim. But what do I know! :pout:


No, you start with the smaller needle. The roll seems to stop better if you go from the smaller to larger and it creates a better shape IMO. You can of course use only one size if you prefer.

RE eyelet row:
how many rows should you do that for? I looks like more than 1 row on the photo but again, what do I know!

It's just one row. Then you start knitting again. The YO creates a buttonhole/eyelet for the cord to go through.

RE I-Cord:
I've never made that before........I can't imagine 3 stitches total (1 on each circular needle?????????)

Ohhhh.. well an i-cord is different beast and very cool when you see how it works. It's done on 2 DPNs not a circular. Rather than try to explain it fully check these for help and then if you need more help let me know.
http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/basic_techniques/misc.php
http://www.knittingatnoon.com/I_cord.html

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks, I will. And I'm already on row 12 of the hat! The brim is rolling nicely, I can't wait to finish. Hopefully by the end of this weekend! Hubby will be so proud to see me using my knitting talents for good and not evil. LOL!

Jan in CA
03-16-2007, 12:00 PM
Hubby will be so proud to see me using my knitting talents for good and not evil. LOL!
:teehee:

I'm glad you are figuring it all out! I started making another one in a heavy weight yarn (bulky maybe?) and it looks pretty neat. Even using the small needle to large needle I notice it curling quite a bit, but I compensated by adding few more rows before the eyelet row and it seems to be okay.

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 12:09 PM
Great! Post a pic when you do, and on you blog too..........oh, have I said THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope to have it finished by this weekend, if I can figure out the i-cord. Will see the links you sent.

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 12:20 PM
if I can figure out the i-cord.Oh it's SO easy! And I do love the look! :heart:

Jan in CA
03-16-2007, 12:31 PM
:teehee: I-cords are time consuming, but they do look so neat how they are knitted all around like that.

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 01:20 PM
I wonder what it would look like to do a scarf that way?

Jan in CA
03-16-2007, 01:22 PM
I wonder what it would look like to do a scarf that way?

A scarf made with an i-cord? :?? Wait...I think I know what you mean.. I don't think that would work. I think the i-cord method only works for very small numbers of stitches. :thinking:

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 03:43 PM
Do you think it would be OK to make the i-cord out of plain Red Heart Acryllid (non-baby) yarn? It won't be touching the sensitive scalp, and I would have more colors to choose from. I thought I'd make 2 i-cords so she can change them around.

Arielluria
03-16-2007, 04:22 PM
Jan, I know I'm being a terrible idiot and a pain about this but now I have a question about the eyelet row.

OK, as I figure it, it's just one row, it only looks like more in the pic to me. So if I'm wrong on that let me know. But I was confused because at first I thought you meant to go 5.5" with the eyelet row, but I know that's not right. You mean do the eyelet row then continue like before.

Jan in CA
03-16-2007, 06:50 PM
OK, as I figure it, it's just one row, it only looks like more in the pic to me. So if I'm wrong on that let me know. But I was confused because at first I thought you meant to go 5.5" with the eyelet row, but I know that's not right. You mean do the eyelet row then continue like before.

Correct. Just do ONE row of the eyelets and continue on till you're ready to decrease.

Do you think it would be OK to make the i-cord out of plain Red Heart Acryllid (non-baby) yarn? It won't be touching the sensitive scalp, and I would have more colors to choose from. I thought I'd make 2 i-cords so she can change them around.

The cord does touch the scalp on the back every 5 stitches because it's threaded through the eyelets. I probably wouldn't use RH super saver, but there other inexpensive and soft acrylics. RH Soft is really soft for instance. It's up to you though.

BTW...If something isn't clear in the pattern please tell me and I can correct it so it'll be easier. I don't want to confuse anyone.

Arielluria
03-17-2007, 09:07 AM
Jan, no your directions so far are flawless, it's just that I' no good at following them. I'm the type of person that assembles something first without reading the directions and resort to the directions only if absolutely necessary! ;)

Questions:

When you say "continue knitting until hat is about 5.5" from rolled edge, obviously that means DON'T go all the way to the edge of th work right? Just pretend like the hat starts where the rolling ends?

Can I put the work on DPN at any stage?

Jan in CA
03-17-2007, 01:44 PM
J
Questions:

When you say "continue knitting until hat is about 5.5" from rolled edge, obviously that means DON'T go all the way to the edge of th work right? Just pretend like the hat starts where the rolling ends?

Can I put the work on DPN at any stage?

I measured from the edge of the roll because when you measure a hat in a rib edge pattern they measure from the CO edge. I figured the edge of the roll would be the same as far as fit. I guess that's not very scientific though.. :thinking: I just looked at the one I knit as a test and it does seem like it might be a bit too tall. I wish I had a 4 yr old to test with! ARrggg!

You can use DPNs at any point. I just use them w hen the stitches are stretched too far..for me that is usually after the second decrease or so. If you were making a tiny hat the entire thing would be done on DPNs.

Arielluria
03-17-2007, 02:34 PM
OK, just to clarify..........you think it might be better to be 5.5" from the cast-on row instead?

aineepooh1
03-17-2007, 02:39 PM
Arieulluria

Are you gonna post a pic so when can see ??? :?? :shrug:

Jan in CA
03-17-2007, 03:02 PM
OK, just to clarify..........you think it might be better to be 5.5" from the cast-on row instead?

I just measured and from the CO row mine is about 6.5 in which according to directions I've found online is close to correct. I think about 6" from the CO row would be about right. If the child is really small then go smaller, if the child is big for her age then maybe go a little larger.

Jan in CA
03-17-2007, 03:04 PM
Here are the two newest hats.

Arielluria
03-17-2007, 06:22 PM
Jan, those are adorable!!!!!!!!!! I am almost ready to start decreasing on mine.

Arielluria
03-28-2007, 02:20 PM
Jan, I have done the *k3, k2tog* around line and have 36 stitches left. The next line says "continue decreasing till you have about 9 stitches". What does that mean? How do I continue is it k2tog, k2tog or what?

dink
03-28-2007, 06:27 PM
Jan, one of these days we're going to have to have a SoCal knitting group, I'd love to learn how to make one of your hats! I especially liked the little felted one you made which you posted in your blog :heart: What yarn did you use??

Jan in CA
03-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Jan, I have done the *k3, k2tog* around line and have 36 stitches left. The next line says "continue decreasing till you have about 9 stitches". What does that mean? How do I continue is it k2tog, k2tog or what?

At this point I would k2, k2tog, then k1, k2tog and after that just k2tog around. That should leave you with about 9 stitches which you can then cut the yarn and thread it through a needle, cinch it up to close the hole, go through those nine again and then weave in the end.

I guess when I wrote the pattern I wasn't thinking that some people wouldn't have hat making knowledge. Sorry about that. :teehee:


Jan, one of these days we're going to have to have a SoCal knitting group, I'd love to learn how to make one of your hats! I especially liked the little felted one you made which you posted in your blog. What yarn did you use??

Thanks! Yes, we do need to do that! I used scraps of Knitpicks WOTA (http://www.knitpicks.com/Wool+of+the+Andes_YD5420103.html). I just finished a couple more and will post those picks tonite or tomorrow.

Arielluria
03-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Jan, NP. Just to clarify then...........the next line in the directions should read something like

"you now have 36 stitches on your needle. Now dec. to end up with 9 stitches by k2, k2tog, k1, k2tog, *k2tog"

Does that cover it? I'm dying to finish so I can get to the i-cord, it looks like fun. :happydance:

Jan in CA
03-29-2007, 02:45 AM
Jan, NP. Just to clarify then...........the next line in the directions should read something like

"you now have 36 stitches on your needle. Now dec. to end up with 9 stitches by k2, k2tog, k1, k2tog, *k2tog"

Does that cover it? I'm dying to finish so I can get to the i-cord, it looks like fun. :happydance:

The reason I didn't add that line is because the hat can be made any size and it might vary by size and CO stitches. But, yes you do decrease to end up with "about" 9 stitches. Tonite I made a different hat and ended up with 10 stitches. It looks the same. You just don't want too many because it will bunch up, but if you do too little you'll get a point on top. It just takes practice, but don't overthink it. I can't wait to see it!

Arielluria
03-30-2007, 11:07 AM
OK, I guess I'm overthinking, but this is my first successful hat. :D

Do I just keep doing the

k2, k2tog, k1, k2tog, *k2tog

until I end up with 9 or 10 stitches without thought to where the row begins or ends? Because with 36 stitches if I do that (above) at the end of the row I will have 20 stitches, it will be

k2, k2tog, k1, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k2tog, k1

(note I end up with 1 stitch left on the needle).

Sorry for being SUCH a dunce about this. I guess my next hat will be a dunce's one eh?!? ;) Thanks again Jan for all your help AND infinite patience!

Jan in CA
03-30-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm not sure how that happens, but I've had the situation where I end up with one on the needle at the end, too.

Okay let's see.. If you have 36 stitches I'm assuming you have 12 on each needle right?

At this point, k2, k2tog on each needle so you now have 27 stitches total

Next row k1, k2tog on each needle so you know have 18 stitches total

Next row k2tog across each needle and you should now have 9 total...

Cut the yarn 8 in or so and thread it through the stitches removing needles and cinch it up. Go through them again and then weave in the end.

It's not critical where the row ends at this point, but I always put a marker to mark the beginning so I know where I am. I also use markers for decreasing.

For example.. if I have 80 stitches I know I am going to do a k8, k2tog as my first decrease row. So for that first row I k8, k2tog, pm, k8, k2tog, pm....etc. I use a green marker for the first one to note beginning of row and red for the decreases. When the stitches no longer fit well I use DPNs. By using markers my decreases always stay in line and it's pretty easy to see where I am because the next decrease is knit however many and k2tog. No guessing.

Does all this help?

ETA: I'm going to make another hat and keep track of things more carefully so it'll make more sense to newbies. I'll let you know when I've updated the pattern.

Arielluria
03-30-2007, 04:41 PM
Jan,

Yes! Very helpful, thanks! I should be done by this weekend! I showed the nearly completed hat to a KHer I met at a coffee shop today, she thought it was really cool!

Arielluria
04-02-2007, 11:21 AM
I am SOOOOOOOO frustrated! I should have been done with this a long time ago. Yesterday afternoon, as I am left with exactly 9 stitches on my needles, I put my work down and when I came back, half the stitches were off the needles............it's thin yarn and hard to get back into place, and aaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hair:

I'm just going to undo a few rows and start from there, tinking as I go. I have a new method for knowing where the rows start, so that won't be a problem, but it's just aggravating!

Jan in CA
04-02-2007, 01:10 PM
:wall: :wall: Hope you can get them on okay. I try to just finish when I've only got that many stitches left so that doesn't happen. :hug:

ETA: I fixed an error and tried to update the pattern based on some of the questions you've had. Download a new one and see if works for you.

Arielluria
04-12-2007, 10:58 AM
Cap's done. It's adorable!
:cheering:

Working on the i-cord, it's fun! I have about 18" done, but doesn't seem like quite enough, just a little more to go!

Jan in CA
04-12-2007, 12:55 PM
Cap's done. It's adorable!
:cheering:

Working on the i-cord, it's fun! I have about 18" done, but doesn't seem like quite enough, just a little more to go!

I threaded the end through and put the stitches on a holder and tied it to check the length. You don't want it too long either. ;)

Arielluria
04-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Jan, that was my plan.

Here's a tip I posted about keeping track of start of rows on circs (http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30119) which I devised during this project.

Maybe it's common knowledge to experienced knitters, but it really helped me when it came time to frog it!

jeanius80
04-12-2007, 02:03 PM
i have been lurking here checking on your progress lu! :teehee: i cant wait to see the finished hat, jan's pattern is so adorable, i am sure this little girl will love your gift! :heart:

Arielluria
04-13-2007, 11:49 AM
:woohoo: Finished! After much toil, but it was worth it!

Arielluria
04-13-2007, 11:50 AM
I don't have a 4-year old to try it on, I hope it fits, here's how it looks on my 5-year old ;)

Jan in CA
04-13-2007, 12:11 PM
Oh Lu, it's adorable!! I hope it fits her!

jeanius80
04-13-2007, 12:20 PM
soooooo pretty lu! it looks so soft! beautiful job!

Jan in CA
04-24-2007, 02:01 AM
That is so cute! Great job on it!

BTW... post FO and WIP in the What'cha Knittin' forum from now. I just now found this. The general forum goes too fast! :teehee:

Arielluria
04-24-2007, 08:41 PM
I have YET to find out if it fit and if she liked it! I haven't heard from the parents, but I'm sure they have LOTS more to think about!

I enjoyed making it so much, I'm thinking of making some baby booties.....might give me luck ;)

Arielluria
05-07-2007, 11:35 AM
:muah: Thanks for all who cared. Please continue to keep this little girl and her mom, dad and little brother in your prayers.

I received a thank you and picture of her last night from her sweet parents. It was worth EVERY STITCH! They said "she LOVED it!". She has lost all her hair but has had a check up and all seems fine so far, no sign of Cancer.
:cheering: :cheering: :cheering:

larudden
05-07-2007, 03:39 PM
Lu,
That hat is adorable and is certainly going to make that little girl feel like a movie star!

Thanks for sharing the finished product. I've saved the pattern in the hopes that, some day, I can make and donate some myself.

Blessings,
Leslie

Arielluria
05-07-2007, 07:37 PM
:muah: It's sooooooooo satisfying to use your knitting powers for good......not evil ;) LOL! But seriously! It is great! I would like to make more for charity. I have been saving charity knitting links on my blog, it's on the lower right margin, if you would like to visit them. There are good threads on KH too, of course!

Jan in CA
05-08-2007, 01:00 AM
:muah: It's sooooooooo satisfying to use your knitting powers for good......not evil ;)

You can knit for evil? :?? :?? :teehee:

I mostly knit for charity and it IS a good feeling. ;)

Arielluria
05-09-2007, 09:36 AM
:teehee: Seeing my obsession with knitting, dh is wondering whether it's IS good or evil. LOL! Especially after seeing the prices as the LYS when he tried to shop there for me at Christmas. :teehee: