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Kaydee
04-20-2007, 04:24 PM
I bought some bare yarn from KP that I wanted to try to dye myself this weekend. I'm planning on using Kool Aid, but I've looked at a few online tutorials some of which say you need vinegar, and some that say you don't. Can any of you experienced dyers tell me if I do need it or not?? And any tips I should know?

ETA: Some also say not to use aluminum pots, so is this a big no no then?

Friskums
04-20-2007, 04:35 PM
I've never used vinegar, and the few things that I've dyed (KP's Bare mostly but I also overdyed some Malabrigo at one time) turned out just fine.

http://www.ekittie.com/images/knitting/dyedskein.jpg
http://www.ekittie.com/images/knitting/dyedskein-close.jpg

Can't remember if I used aluminum though...

kemp
04-20-2007, 04:36 PM
Instructions here: http://www.pburch.net/dyeing/FAQ/drinkmix.shtml This site is a great resource for all dye questions.

psammeadred
04-20-2007, 04:39 PM
I've never used vinegar, and the few things that I've dyed (KP's Bare mostly but I also overdyed some Malabrigo at one time) turned out just fine.

http://www.ekittie.com/images/knitting/dyedskein.jpg
http://www.ekittie.com/images/knitting/dyedskein-close.jpg

Can't remember if I used aluminum though...

Preeeeeetttttyyyy...

tab
04-20-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm not -that- experienced, but here's my $0.02 CAD.

I've dyed wool with kool-aid before. Patons Classic Merino, to be exact, but it doesn't really matter. I didn't use vinegar. I felted a little bag I made with the first stuff I dyed, and there was a bit of the colour in the water but no noticeable fading on the actual bag. You don't really need vinegar for kool-aid because it has a fair amount of acid already in it, but it won't hurt to add a glug.
As for the pot... ours was probably stainless steel, so I can't say anything for sure there. Being careful doesn't hurt, though.

Kaydee
04-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. psammeadred your yarn is beautiful. I'm hoping to dye mine this weekend so I'll post some pics when its done.

cando
04-20-2007, 04:59 PM
Instructions here: http://www.pburch.net/dyeing/FAQ/drinkmix.shtml This site is a great resource for all dye questions.

Thanks, kemp, for posting that link! There's a lot of useful info in there.

psammeadred
04-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. psammeadred your yarn is beautiful. I'm hoping to dye mine this weekend so I'll post some pics when its done.

Friskums did it! (The only KoolAid dyeing I've done so far turned a formerly neon yellow wool-acrylic mix into radioactive carrot.)

CarmenIbanez
04-20-2007, 05:27 PM
I have also used kool-aid without vinegar and been just fine.

Kaydee
04-21-2007, 12:37 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. psammeadred your yarn is beautiful. I'm hoping to dye mine this weekend so I'll post some pics when its done.

Friskums did it! (The only KoolAid dyeing I've done so far turned a formerly neon yellow wool-acrylic mix into radioactive carrot.)

oops! that's right. well, friskums it's beautiful!

redwitch
04-21-2007, 01:04 AM
Honestly, vinegar's cheap, if I couldn't find a definitive answer saying that Kool-Aid would make NO improvement, I'd use some. There's a good article in Knitty about dying http://knitty.com/ISSUEspring07/FEATdyeyourown.html

and a long Craftster sticky in the knitting forum about dying with Kool-Aid. Craftster also has a new section devoted to dying (at the bottom).

If you post showing the FO, could you also post a pic of how it looks knitted up if you happen to make a swatch or an item? I have looked at lots of tutorials but few that show what certain sizes/shapes/proportions of colour blocks on the skein actually look when knitted up into fabric, especially regarding pooling/flashing/puddling (except some showing self-striping methods, check out Eunny's tute on the right sidebar if you're after stripes!).
Good luck
Sarah

Angelia
04-21-2007, 11:49 AM
Wow, Friskums, I LOVE that colorway!! Nice job! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

My first Kool-Aid dye job was...:ick: I've since re-dyed the yarn and now can happily knit with it. (And it still smells like Kool-Aid!)

Kool-Aid doesn't need vinegar because it's already so acidic that it sets the color all by itself. All other dyes I know of do need it.

I'm currently obsessed with dyeing with Wilton's food coloring paste and use about 1/2 cup vinegar total for a 100g hank. (I bought a huge cheapo container of vinegar at Target, and it should last quite awhile.) This is my latest dye:

NinaT
04-21-2007, 01:03 PM
Angelia and Friskums-- Would you share your techniques? Your yarns are absolutely beautiful! When I tried kool-aid dying for the first time my yarn ended up looking very "muddy".

Friskums
04-21-2007, 01:29 PM
I haven't knit mine up yet, because I've got quite a few other things that I need to get done before I can start playing with it.

NinaT, I used this (http://www.eunnyjang.com/knit/2005/12/techniques_selfstriping_yarn.html) tutorial to make it self striping. Like I said, I haven't knit it up yet, so I don't know how successful I was, but it sure does look pretty in the skein. :rofl: :rofl:

Angelia
04-21-2007, 02:43 PM
Mine is dyed with Wilton's food paste. I pretty much followed the directions from this article (http://knitty.com/ISSUEspring07/FEATdyeyourown.html) on knitty. What's great about hand-dyeing is that you can be so creative with colors--blend them to get exactly the look you want!

My next dye is self-striping. :help: I saw Scout (of Scout's Swag) on Knitty Gritty last week (or week before last?), and she said she uses self-striping yarn she's store-bought to help her determine where to put the stripes on her own self-striping yarn. It's far easier and faster than the "knit and see where the colors should go" method as long as you're using the same weight yarn. I'm going to try the same technique; I'll let you see what happens, hideous or not! :rofl: (Of course Scout's technique also involves a warping board, which I do not have, so mine won't be quite as precise as hers.)

Here's (http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/na_knitting/article/0,2025,DIY_14141_5453795,00.html) the link to the KG episode with Scout, and here's a link to Scout's Swag (http://www.scoutsswag.com) (her stuff is gorgeous!)

NinaT
04-21-2007, 03:30 PM
Wow!!
Thank you so much you two! I am so ready to try again!!

Eloewien
04-22-2007, 12:07 AM
I've got a batch of yarn soaking in water with a touch of vinegar overnight, and I plan on dying it with kool aid tomorrow... I figure the vinegar might make it take color more, probably won't hurt. I've got it separated into 2 colors for one batch and I'm going to do two or three in the second batch-- we'll see how it goes tomorrow!!

dustinac
04-22-2007, 12:27 AM
I've been diddling with dyes since Dec. or so... I only have 4 (5 cause one is drying tonight) done so far :teehee: it is a lot of stuff to bring out and then keep up when the kids are up... I have not had much luck with the self striping.. the one I have dying I just tied off here and there after watching the KG episode something clicked cause its not one muddy mess.. still messy on the joins and one section of green isn't as I wanted it to be... here are some photos of the 3 I did so far.. I also did a red but didn't take a photo of it yet.. .. and then I did have 2 more I felted and had to throw away.. :oops: :rofl:

The first I used just Wilton's Blue
The Second was Green from KPs dyes
The Third was using KP's blue and purple... :shrug:

dh thinks it is cute and builds me up when I think I have an ugly mess on my hands.. I think he thinks this will save him money if I get it down.. :rofl:

Angelia
04-22-2007, 06:47 AM
Those are gorgeous, Dustina! :inlove: I love that blue in particular!

Sorry the link above to knitty was broken; I fixed it.

I've also found another site here (http://www.woolywonder.com/forums/archive/index.php/f-63.html) that has all sorts of questions/answers re dyeing. It covers Kool-Aid, Wilton's, even coffeee and tea!

Eloewien
04-22-2007, 02:58 PM
The kool aid process was really easy :) It's all in the pots cooling at the moment... just have to rinse it. At least it all smells yummy!!

Eloewien
04-23-2007, 12:19 AM
Ok- here's the result of my first yarn-dyeing attempt... more pictures will be on my website tomorrow... It used Patons Classic Merino which I soaked overnight in a water/vinegar bath. I had 7 ounces of yarn and used 8 total packets of kool aid. In the future, I'll probably use more kool aid. It only took about 20 mins of warming and steaming on the stove for the yarn to take up all the dye. When I rinsed, there was no bleeding at all-- maybe the combination of the acid in the vinegar and the acid in the kool aid? I'm going to ball it and swatch it here in a few :)

Angelia
04-23-2007, 06:07 AM
:cheering: :cheering: :cheering:

Beautiful!! I can't wait to see it all hanked and purdy!

And I'll bet your kitchen smells fantastic! ;)

Eloewien
04-23-2007, 09:32 AM
I cheated and skipped hanks 'cuz I wanted to play with the yarn, so last night I hand balled it (that took a while-- it's 400 yds!!)

Here's the balls and swatches! I really love the two tone... it came out wonderfully!

jeanius80
04-23-2007, 10:52 AM
Eloewien- i love you colors you did! i am getting ready to dye 4 more hanks/skeins for kiddie sweaters, and one of the combos is going to be red & pink, and then purple & blue! i love dying. i use wiltons, but i think i need kool-aid to get a nice pink..... hmmmm
i love the tri-color sripes so cute! :heart:

dustinac
04-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Thank you, Angelia!!

Angelia, Friskums, and Eloewin your yarns turned out wonderful.. so pretty!!!

Here is what I had drying the other night.. I was nervous when it was in the hank.. dh even suggested I stick to solid colors.. but wound up I really like it.. it is what I was hoping for :cheering:

jeanius80
04-23-2007, 01:50 PM
i l :heart: ve it dustinac! it reminds me of the hawaii colorway from lorna's laces.. very pretty

jeanius80
04-24-2007, 02:05 PM
i have a question for anyone who has experience with using wiltons to dye yarn. to get pastels, do i just dilute the color? or do i need to buy pastel colors? i currently only have red, blue, and yellow :teehee: thanks!

PaperGirl
04-24-2007, 05:47 PM
OMG...those are PRETTY!

*adds yarn dying to her list of things to do while hubby is gone*

dustinac
04-24-2007, 09:32 PM
i have a question for anyone who has experience with using wiltons to dye yarn. to get pastels, do i just dilute the color? or do i need to buy pastel colors? i currently only have red, blue, and yellow :teehee: thanks!

I found out that most of Wilton's doesn't give you the color you think it will lol.. the Royal blue gave me my first photo I posted.. has blues and purples going through it.. a dark purple but it is pretty... the red and green try is what I felted when I tried to redye them.. they came out lighter than what I thought and the green was kinda a weird green.. you might wanna try a sample on each and go from there.. add more and less to another to see.. I'm finding out its really a guessing game.. and see what comes out of the pot LOL.. even with KPs dyes I'm not getting the colors I thought I would.. I had to redye my last post to get the green to show up and purple more purple... one day you might pull out the yarn and go cool.. the next day pull something else and be :pout: and back to the dying pot it goes.. or at least this is how it is for me LOL.. some might have a trick I need to know about..

I'm going to order more of Kps dyes this weekend and then I should have them all.. just need brown, black, salmon, hot pink, and vermillion I think.. :cheering: