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HeatherFeather
05-01-2007, 06:22 PM
I JUST got a new Singer Sewing machine, and I'm putting patches (read brownie vest and PATCH material). The first patch FINE...second patch...I have BAD words going through my brain.....

It is doing EXACTLY the same thing that my OLD 1956 model is doing...it is getting all messed up on the underside....WHAT on EARTH am I doing WRONG????????????? There are huge loops and then I have to actually CUT it away from the machine...I thought for SURE I'd not have this problem with a brand spankin new machine.

I've played with the tension and the stitch length...and it STILL does it....

HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP before I throw it out the window.

Limey
05-01-2007, 06:49 PM
Hi

It sounds very much as though you've got the shuttle/spool threaded the wrong way.

Take it out and double check which way the cotton should run, then put your machine on a medium length straight stitch. Check that the needle is inserted correctly.

I've known this happen alot with sewing machines both with the 'boat' shaped shuttle and the round spool type.

Just take your time and check each step that you've theaded up the machine the right way.

Shhh (I'm supposed to be a knitter, not a sewer)

Limey

roseybee
05-01-2007, 06:53 PM
Your bobbin may be in backwards. You also have to make sure the thread on the spool and in the bobbin are the same type of thread. Some machines also have bobbin tension dials, which may help. It may just be a matter of finding the right tension, since those badges are kind of thick.

marykz
05-01-2007, 07:25 PM
yep- its a threading problem. look veeeeery carefully at your manual. then slooooowly, step by step redo the whole threading, bobbin, tension, and all. (even if you think you *know* how to do it- check the manual. they have some surprises...)

This happens to me when my thread isn't properly in the tension plates, or I pop the bobbin in backwards.

don't have the manual?
check here:
http://www.sewusa.com/Sewing_Machine_Threading_Diagrams.htm for general threading diagrams. (free)

hit home on that site to search for manuals you can order. (not free, but worth the $12 to me to get the thing working right.)

patience and double checking is worth the time. I hate ripping out. (sewing AND knitting)

Tomorrow I'm taking a class at my JoAnns all about getting to know your machine. It might be worth checking out if you have one near you. You tote in your machine, manuals and accessories and they help you figure out all the bells and whistles. I think it is called Machine Basics. I think it cost $20 or $30 for a 2 hour class.

good luck, MKZ

HeatherFeather
05-01-2007, 09:32 PM
Ok...i'll give it another go...and here I might not have NEEDED to buy the new machine afterall????? if all it was was putting the dumb bobbin in upsidedown?????

my first problem was that the thread on the spool kept getting caught on the notch...and the thread would break...but I did figure that out...

Thanks so very much for your help!!!!! I"ll revisit the manual that is written in PICTURES, NOT words, and a lady wearing a nice pump...yeah..I'm lucky if I have SHOES on, and the order of them goes from 1,2 5, 4, 6, 7. (notice there is no THREE.....and they are compeltly OUT of order.

ETAAgain

I DID have it threaded on the top wrong......but what it has to do with the bottom??? I've NO idea...I even got through about 6 patches with NO problem, and then it goofed up again...I looked at the weaving and threading, adn it got unhooked somewhere.

I even felt adventerous enough to try my hand at zigzag...and REALLY re-enforce those babies down..(the tryits with STRAIGHT stitches!!!)...whew..now to cut all those threads, but that's another day.

Thanks for your help..NOT going to turn it back in...

marykz
05-02-2007, 08:47 AM
I DID have it threaded on the top wrong......but what it has to do with the bottom??? I've NO idea......

If there is improper tension on the top the thread doesn't get pulled back up thru the stitch properly, and you get the loopyness on the bottom of the fabric. does that make sense? The needle punches way down into the machine, and the mechanisms of tension pull the extra thread back up before the next stitch. no tension- all the extra thread stays below.

Good job getting it working!! keep trying!

HeatherFeather
05-02-2007, 09:30 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS that makes sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muy Bien!!!! (trying out my limited Spanish!!! lol....)
VERY GOOD


I do have a techie brain...so when you explained it that way...

I now need to get a proper table I think? My old dinosaur was in it's own table and connected to it somehow. I'll miss that part of it for sure!!!

marykz
05-02-2007, 10:12 AM
I now need to get a proper table I think? My old dinosaur was in it's own table and connected to it somehow. I'll miss that part of it for sure!!!
Just a little suggestion...
I put a sheet of that gripping no-slip shelf liner under my machine. it keeps the machine from scratching the table, and it makes sure it won't wiggle around. I got a couple placemat size sheets at the dollar store.

Silver
05-02-2007, 10:20 AM
Just a little tip to keep in the back of your head for future reference.

When adjusting thread tension, ONLY adjust the top tension. Never, ever, ever adjust the bobbin tension. There is a little screw where you technically can adjust the bobbin tension, but that is there for a sewing machine technician, not the user.

The top tension has a "standard" setting and the bobbin tension is set to work with that standard top tension. If you change the bobbin tension, you may never get it back where it should be because it's such a tiny little movement to change it.

Trust me. I learned the hard way on an old machine.

VictoiseC
05-02-2007, 03:10 PM
Oh man, I almost threw my (new) machine out the window the day before yesterday! I am so with you Heather!!!! :wall:

I broke 2 needles. Finally got the thing going again but now I'm afraid to do anything but straight stitch because when I turned the dial to a fancier bigger stitch the needles broke. If anyone has the time.... are you supposed
to CHANGE the pressure foot to do anything other than straight stitch? I don't THINK SO!

And also, try as I do, when I push the bobbin down to catch the thread it doesn't really seem to catch on anything.

I DEFINITELY want a class and thanks so much ! MARYKZ for that tip about Joannes. I'm not very close but maybe I can find a way to get there for those classes. I recently found some sewing classes in Manhattan
(clothes) but of course, being NYC they want $350 for like 4 or 5 classes.
Can no do.

HEATHER! Don't you feel like a GIANT sometime with your great big hands trying to do all that little threading stuff!!!! :rofl:

VictoiseC
05-02-2007, 03:11 PM
Oh and p.s. rant rant I had to cut some thread away TWICE that got jammed in the bottom. These machines are Demons!

HeatherFeather
05-02-2007, 03:26 PM
ONCE...and I say ONCE

the 5 mins after I got my old machine back and fixed...I was cruising along and said..hmmm...THIS is why people like to do this....

I'll get that gripper stuff....it should do the trick nicely.

My aunt and nana sew BEAUTIFUL.....I didn't get it.....it looks like such a hack job by the time I'm done.

and YES, you would need to change the pressure foot depending on the stitch you are doing...look at the hole the needle goes into, and if the needle is going all fancy, it will bang up against the foot and break. I know that I do have a couple different foots for different things.

marykz
05-03-2007, 09:21 AM
I DEFINITELY want a class and thanks so much ! MARYKZ for that tip about Joannes. I'm not very close but maybe I can find a way to get there for those classes. I recently found some sewing classes in Manhattan
(clothes) but of course, being NYC they want $350 for like 4 or 5 classes.
Can no do.


To follow up... my class last night was worth every penny. The instructor was extremely thorough. she taught us everything you need to know about taking care of the machine, threading/ basic stitches, and troubleshooting. We went over how and when to use the various attachments and tried out a couple. We reviewed how to make a blind hem, use an applique foot, and make buttonholes.

It wasn't a sewing class, per se, but all about the machine. I've signed up for "sewing I". I know how do to basic sewing, but I always feel like I'm missing some key information, so I"ve decided to start from the beginning. I learned as a teen, and, as a typical teen, didn't listen to everything Mom said..... :oops:

I find the JoAnns rates reasonable ($30-$60 for 2-4 hours depending on the class). I'm about 30 minutes away from the store, but I don't mind.

Sometimes they have "sales" on the classes where if you sign up for more than one, you get a discount on the later one.

And with the class registration they give you a coupon for 10-20% off one entire purchase for supplies.

Anyways- I'm very glad I went.

VictoiseC
05-03-2007, 09:33 AM
Ok, thanks Heather.

guess what, I broke my 3rd needle this morning. I am just trying to do a straight stitch. It worked fine yesterday, now it bent again. I am looking up Joanne's locations right now for lessons.

THANKS Mary!