View Full Version : O.T. Need to put on weight
05-10-2007, 08:35 AM
Ok, I'll give you a bit of background history so you can understand my request;
I need a heart operation, my doc has said I won't be put on the list until I've put on 2 stone. Something about lossing weight post op, and infection. I wasn't really listening to the rest of it. I'm nearly 6 and half stone. I've got to get to 8 and a half, by the next time I see him in 2 months.
This is going to be so difficult for me. I've never been over 7 stone. I do love my food and have no problem eating. I just don't know how do do this other than stuff myself silly with sweets and crisps. Which is fine by me, but doesn't sound healthy.
I have to have a limited dariy intake, because of my bone condition,
Any one got any ideas? Or a bar of chocolate they don't want! :teehee:
05-10-2007, 08:40 AM
Over here in the States they sell weight gaining shakes at health food stores. It's usually like a protein powder that you mix with other foods kind of like a milkshake or smoothie. Since it's protein, it might be healthier for you than stuffing your face with sweets (although that's probably how I'd do it! :teehee: )
I hope all goes well with your surgery.
05-10-2007, 08:47 AM
Hi Nobones! :hug:
I'm personally never need to gain extra weight, but my hubby always needs that and i know how hard it is, as hard as loosing weight. From what i read and heard about weight gaining diets:
Don't stuff yourself with sweets, you only adding sugar to your blood. Include meat in your diet (not chicken or turkey - they are low on calories) - red meat. Eat potatoes, rice, beans, humus (if you know what that is and can get it). You need healthy fat and carbs.Nuts, avocado, raisins.
That's something i found while googling:
I've got 2 stone spare :oops: I wish could give it to you :pout: :oops:
:teehee: I never heard the word "stone" before as a weight measure. how cute!
From the references I looked at, they want you to put on a LOT of weight!
As KnittingNat says, be careful about sweets and saturated fats. I'm trying to gain weight too, and I do basically what KnittingNat suggested. I don't really follow a "diet", I just try to eat more meat, rice, potatoes than usual, and I continue to eat the same amount of vegetables. I also eat snacks: nuts, cheese, yogurt. But I gained only 5 pounds in about 2 months! What they are asking from you is a lot more than that...
I'm surprised they didn't provide you with the services of a nutritionist to help you. :shrug: I think going to a specialist would be the best way to ensure you remain healthy in the process. I don't see the benefit of gaining weight if you end up with health problems... it wouldn't be good for the surgery either! :??
Anyways, good luck!!! :hug:
Eat healthy fats...avocado, olive oil, nuts etc. High calories that won't increase your cholesterol. It might also be good to ask your doctor what he/she would suggest.
05-10-2007, 10:37 AM
Just looking at chocolate makes my butt bigger. When I quit smoking, I ate so much chocolate I gained 10 pounds in 2 months. ACK. I've since lost it again, but still.. chocolate is bad.
Ok, I know, this isn't funny. Ask your doctor for a diet plan. He should have given you the proper info when he said to gain weight. I know some people just don't like having to eat more to gain weight, so you could try weight gainer shakes... check a health food store or fitness supplements. Look for the stuff that body builders drink. But ask your Doc about them first! Good luck and I hope you get well soon! :heart:
05-10-2007, 11:31 AM
I can't add anything new, just wanted to say GOOD LUCK! I hope everything works out!
05-10-2007, 11:52 AM
I had to put on a bunch of weight when I was pregnant with my daughter (I was so sick, I was still throwing up constantly at 22 weeks and way below my pre-pregnancy weight, had to have IV fluids because of dehydration, etc. This girl has been Trouble with a capital T since the day she was conceived). Eating lots of protein is the best, healthiest way to put on weight quickly. Eggs, meat, breads, etc. There are lots of shakes and things that have protein in them, but if you can't have too much dairy, they're pretty much out. Google "high protein diet" or "high protein foods" and I'll bet you'll find tons of suggestions.
05-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Because of my chronic illness and medication, I am also significantly underweight. I've seen a nutritionist to try to stay at a stable weight. I would highly suggest trying to find one- check the local hospital to see if they recommend someone or ask the doc.
I don't know if they have these in your area, but lots of health food stores here sell meal replacement bars (protein bars). (Larabars got a good review recently- they are dairy free, wheat free etc) They are a fairly balanced mix of fat, carb, protein and fiber. my nurtirionist says they are a better choice for a snack (in addition to your healthy meals) than sweets for someone who needs to healthily gain weight. I've also used the instant breakfast drink mixes to beef up the proteins and calories at breakfast. I hate the way they taste solo- so I make smoothies (add fruit and milk to the strawberry or vanilla flavor) or some iced coffee (coffee, milk and vanilla chocolate or mocha drink mix).
unfortumately, just eating more chocolate isn't good enough for someone who medically needs to add weight.
Someone also mentioned the protein drink mixes for athletes- just read the labels so you aren't taking weird supplements along with the protein. (they may interact with medications you need)
It is a tough "problem" to have- you get no sympathy from anyone!! If I had a dime for everytime someone said "I wish I could eat like you" or "I wish I could be that skinny".... No, No you really don't.
05-10-2007, 02:24 PM
WOW - hope all goes well with your surgery. There was a time I couldn't keep weight on (I am 6ft tall and only weighed 110lbs) so while I did work with a nutritionist I found that adding calories to normal meals also worked well. I added nuts and coconut to everything I ate, used whole milk when I could, and added granola bars and snacks in btwn all meals. I would make bread with protein powder, nuts, dried fruit, oats etc. I found that some days I would have to make a list of foods and check them off the list to make sure I was over 3000calories....that way I couldn't get busy and forget to eat.
Oh another thing I did was keep things in the bedroom so if I woke at night (which I often did at that weight) I could easily grab a snack.
If you find yourself feeling full try adding a meal replacement shake as many times our brains do not register full when drinking. Also, I found that not drinking during meals helped me eat more. If I drank milk or water with a meal I found that I ate less b/c my stomach bloated and I felt full faster.
Best of Luck
05-10-2007, 02:53 PM
I would go with the liquid supplements such as Ensure etc. I would look for a supplement or drink that has the word Pareve on it. That word means that it has no meat or dairy products in it. The best of luck to you. Please let us know if there is anything available here in the States that is not available to you in the UK.
05-10-2007, 03:01 PM
I don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said. I work for Weight Watchers. I have told my members that before they get upset with their naturally skinny friend, remember that gaining weight can be as difficult as losing weight.
Best of luck to you. Please let us know how you are.
05-10-2007, 03:38 PM
Wow! -Very sorry to hear about your health problems.
I suggest you go and see your Doctor again - It's hard to think straight at the time your given fresh news, so I think another visit is definitely called for.
I'm such an air-head that I write down on a piece of paper what I want to ask and plonk it on the doctor's desk. If I don't, I forget, and then end up cursing myself five minutes after leaving the surgery.
The food supplement, Complan, is good for putting on weight but I really think your doctor should be giving you more advice and info.
All the Best
05-10-2007, 08:37 PM
My heart always goes out to those who are suffering with health problems. :heart: I am so sorry to hear that you are struggling. As the board nutritionist, I can only advise that you continue to eat only "real" food: good, healthy food, and eat every 3 hours, up to six or eight meals per day, if necessary. Your metabolism must be lightening fast!
Real food = fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, beans, clean meats (and dairy products - if not avoiding), olive oil, etc.
Fast food, junk food, snack food, convenience foods, etc. are not food!!
I wish you only the best as you seek to recover your health. :muah:
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05-10-2007, 08:46 PM
how much is a stone? :??
Jan in CA
05-10-2007, 08:52 PM
how much is a stone? :??
I use these for all my conversions.
1 Stone = 14 pounds if I'm not mistaken.
05-10-2007, 09:01 PM
I got about 30 lbs to ge rid of, wonder how much the shipping would be :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
Eat extra for the weight you need to gain, but make sure that those extra are healthy. It's the only thing I can think of :shrug:
05-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I was underweight for a while when I weighed 84/86 lbs at 5'2". I gained weight by eating my cafeteria food (:ick: I can tell you that was one mistake), eating ice cream everyday after school, and making sure I was never hungry. I just made sure that everything had a lot of fat in it. I know that's not really a healthy way to gain weight, but it did work and am now 10 lbs heavier.
Good luck, I know how hard putting on weight is! :hug:
05-10-2007, 10:30 PM
I used to have the same problem... then I hit my mid 20's. I'm 5'9" or so and five years ago, I weighed in at 110 lbs... I'm now closer to 160. Mostly muscle from starting to work out and just filling in weight I so desperately needed. I now have a bit of extra weight... but I guess no one is perfect :)
I went through the same struggles for years, however. No matter what I did, I couldn't gain weight and they wanted me at least up to 135!
05-11-2007, 04:52 AM
Thank you SO much all of you.
I had a weigh in at my doctors this morning.... I'm not gonna put my actual weight because to be honest I'm a little bit embarrassed, but it turns out I've got further to go than we thought.
G.P said my heart doctor expecting this in 2 months is not acceptable, it puts too much pressure on me and that in it self is not good. I am now on the waiting list to see a diet specialst, the waiting list is 6 months!!!! :wall:
I bought this morning some nuts and rasiens and pasta. Build up drinks are totaly out ( :pout: that would have been easier) because that would rocket up my calcium intake, and as I mentioned before, due to my extra bones I'm on a reduced calcium diet.
The sweets and crisps route seems so much easier!
I eat loads of bread, I am am breadaholic my hubby says, but always brown, do you think I should change to white?
Thank you all for kind messages and help.
05-13-2007, 03:14 PM
Well today, I have eaten the most I ever have I thick. Not all junk food either. If I continue like this I could be ok,
Breakfast; cereal, 2 eggs on toast, and a small orange. (and tea)
11, tea and dried apple and pinapple piceces. piece of toast.
Lunch; Pasta ( not really had much pasta but I enjoyed this) it had a rich mushroom sauce. Juice to drink.
3pm. Tea, jam tarts and a egg custard.
6pm. very small portion of prawns, sunday dinner. fruit for desert.
I am now having another cup of tea and a jam tart.
So far that's ok isn't it? Not junk food heavy. I was at my Dads today so he's really helping me.
Yesterday I tryed to eat a banana, thinking it would be very good for me, but I threw up after the first mouthful. I knew there was a reason I didn't have them in the house!
I have a consultation tommorow at a health food shop, quicker than the NHS!
Right I'm off for another jam tart, this could prove to be quite easy :teehee:
05-13-2007, 07:51 PM
Well I've got quite a lot of "stones" I will gladly give you. :teehee:
In pounds, how much weight is it you need to gain? :??
Jan in CA
05-13-2007, 08:23 PM
You're doing well, but there are foods that are naturally higher in calories that you could add to what you are eating. For instance add a potato to your dinner and have a peanut butter sandwich with your lunch or for a snack.
These all have higher calories...
Potatoes, nuts, trail mix, avocado, salad dressings, peanut butter...and I found this:
Bananas, Cherries, Canner Fruit in Juice, Currants and Raisins, Dates and Figs, Fruit Juices, Fruit Juice Bars, Mangoes, Pineapple, Plantains, Dried Fruits
All-Bran, Bran-Buds, Breads (heavy, dense), Fruitful-Bran, Fruit Squares, Low-Fat Granola, Pasta, Rice and Barley, Wheat Germ (mix in food), Cooked Cereals (i.e. Bulgar, Grits, Oatmeal, etc.)
Corn, Lima Beans, Parsnips, Peas, Potatoes, Succotash, Sweet Potatoes, Winter Squash (i.e. Acorn, Butternut)
05-13-2007, 09:10 PM
I hereby nominate Jan as an honorary nutritionist! That was some quick research, Jan!
I am glad to see that you're starting to eat every 3 hours, as suggested, and decently balanced meals, too. With Jan's suggestions, and the work you are already doing, you are going to be JUST FINE.
Good luck with everything, sweetheart.
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Jan in CA
05-13-2007, 09:31 PM
05-14-2007, 10:10 AM
Thank you so much :muah: I know I'll be able to come here when I start to falter. I'm not sure how many pounds I have to put on. I'm going to weigh myself weekly to see my progress. I'm embarrassed to say when I went to the GP I was weighed in at, 5st 12 :oops:. Must eat....
This is an interesting topic to me. While I don't have the health issue, I too have an issue with being thin and need to gain some weight. The last time I checked my calorie intake (years ago) I eat the same amount of calories as someone 40-50 pounds heavier than myself.
Seeing as a Stone (I think) is a UK/European measurement I'll do this both in American and Metric.
Me: 6'3" about 155 lbs
(190.5 cm, 11 stone + 1? (70.5 kg))
Top that off with the fact I am also allergic to MILK.. (not just a lactose intolerance). So many of the Weight Gain Drinks and weight gain products are off-limits for me.
When I was in my last semester of school, I finally stopped working which freed up over 40 hours a weeks for me. I decided that I wanted to gain some muscle (not just fat) weight. I did a combination of working out and eating extra food. One thing i did was I did eat a small amount of sweets but mostly good food and LOTS of it. The other thing I did was make sure I got extra rest for my muscles to recover.
In 16 weeks, I gained about 10 pounds.... 6-7 pounds of that was muscle and about 3 pounds of fat. For me, that was what worked. (Plus an added side benefit was I discovered it was a great stress reliever.)
Hope it helps. I'm looking forward to seeing what works for you.
05-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Hubby is insisting I try bananas again. :ick: He also said I can't have the salted peanuts because they would be bad for the heart :grrr:
05-14-2007, 04:42 PM
ICK - I don't blame you for avoiding bananas. However, this no peanuts thing...does that mean you can't have peanut butter? Have you tried soy nuts or almonds? They are heart healthy and you can also buy almond butter to use in place of peanut butter.
05-14-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi. I noticed that you drink a lot of tea. That's a lot of volume without many calories. Why don't you try to substitute more fruit juice for the tea? Juice actually has a lot of calories in it. Foods with a lot of natural fat and oil will help too. If you add olive oil to your vegetables that will add calories too. Jan is right with the food groups she mentioned. Bananas really don't have as many calories per volume as we think. You are far better off going with the dried fruit as all of the moisture is out of them and what is left is calories. Hot cereal is good for you but will not help you put on weight. You are far better off, if you heart condition permits, in eating eggs. I really hope all is well with you. The best of luck. :hug:
Jan in CA
05-14-2007, 05:50 PM
You can buy unsalted nuts. I have high blood pressure so I avoid a lot of salt. I like them w/o salt myself. ;)
05-14-2007, 08:52 PM
My youngest DS is pretty underweight. (Vit. B deficiency) (5'7" and 94 lbs. His nickname is "Bones")He saw a nutritionist at the clinic and they gave me some recipies for snack things to eat between meals. Most of them were made with peanutbutter and honey. Since he can't eat honey, I ditched them. Now I wish I'd kept them.
BTW... bananas make me barf too!
05-15-2007, 05:19 AM
Hi. I noticed that you drink a lot of tea. Why don't you try to substitute more fruit juice for the tea?
Drink LESS tea? :noway: How about if I put more sugar in it? I'll use full fat milk just PLEASE, don't make me give up my tea!!
I have tried peanut butter, not my thing, it's a texture issue. I love honey so I'll try and use that in more things. I am eating a lot of dried apple slices and pineapple chunks. Finally found a 'Cookie n Cream' Hersey bar yesterday :cheering: Last time I had (several) of those I was in florida and have looked for them ever since. They only had 2 bars though. I'll the save the 2nd one for a special event! :teehee:
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05-15-2007, 11:15 AM
My DH is a cancer patient and he hates those over-the-counter weight gain drinks. He has become a croissant eater but I counter his bad calories with avocado milk shakes. You just take an avocado, some vanilla ice cream, some milk and just a bit of vanilla extract and cinnamon. I also give him red meat (which he loves) :ick: and poultry and peanuts butter for protein.
Good luck, I be keeping you in my thoughts.
05-15-2007, 11:38 AM
bagels have insane amounts of calories.
if you ate whole grain sourdough bagels, they might still be healthy?
05-15-2007, 12:17 PM
I can't give you any diet ideas, I just want to wish you good luck for your surgery. So... "Good Luck, and may God protect you!" :hug:
Jan in CA
05-15-2007, 12:29 PM
Yeah, bagels do have a lot of calories. I just bought some because my DD1 is visiting and they have 300 calories each. Full fat cream cheese for the bagels would add to it, too.
Read the labels like those of us who need to lose weight do. Look for "higher" calories in bread, juice, etc.
05-17-2007, 05:41 AM
I just bought my first bag of bagels! Yummy! I had a chicken, bacon and melted cheese bagel.
I've also told hubby to back off, and I now have the salted peanuts muhhaha!
Sorry to hear about your Hubby, best wishes to you both