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newamy
05-14-2007, 11:39 AM
I want to set up an online photo account so as to easily share photos of my firend's wedding this past weekend.
Which do you all like better Fliker or Photobucket? Or is there another service also available that I should consider?

Thanks.

Knitting_Guy
05-14-2007, 11:59 AM
I like Photobucket. No special reason. :shrug:

brendajos
05-14-2007, 12:06 PM
I am a fan of photobucket. my geeky republican (every good liberal should have a republican) tells me i am out of my mind and that Flickr is far superior. I have an account there but i don't see anything there that would sway me from photobucket.


at this point the only thing i can see that would make me at least start using the flickr account is that ravelry program not being compatible to photobucket. but since i don't have an account on ravelry yet i will stay where i am. :)

Joel
05-14-2007, 12:17 PM
I want to set up an online photo account so as to easily share photos of my firend's wedding this past weekend.
Which do you all like better Flickr or Photobucket?

I personally use Photobucket (I didnt know about Flickr when I set it up) but in all honesty the answer should be which ever is:

a) more suited to your personal taste
b) works for you.


Or is there another service also available that I should consider?

There are lots of services out there. Just go to Google and type in Photo Sharing and watch what comes up.


My suggestion: Take the promo tour of Flickr, Photobucket, and maybe Dropshots (another free service) and see which one you like the best and go with it.

marykz
05-14-2007, 12:21 PM
I like Flickr, but, for no special reason.... it was just the first one I came across when I wanted to start sharing.

I'm sure if I upgraded to a paid account I might worry more about the details, but it seems to me all the free ones do mostly the same things.

simplethings
05-14-2007, 01:00 PM
I'm a huge fan of Flickr.

It's been a few years (maybe 4) since I've used photobucket, but, from my experiences it was very unreliable. I'd often get errors and my bandwidth would run out too fast and my pictures would end up being blocked. At the time I was using it the website was FULL of ads and I remember the layout being very not-so-aesthetically pleasing. I'd imagine things have changed since then.

I was introduced to Flickr by a photographer friend. My first impression was that everything was clean and easy to navigate. While I still had upload limitations my pictures never turned into the "excessive bandwidth usage" image. I found Flickr to be very community oriented with a wide range of users. From point-and-shooters to professional photographers. I've since upgraded to a pro account ($24.95/year).

Flickr does a great job of resizing your photos. I remember photobucket would really change the quality of the images I would upload. Flickr keeps your pictures as clean as they are originally.
In Flickr, choosing the "medium" size is the perfect height and width for posting pictures on the knittinghelp.com forums (the longest edge will be 500 pixels).
It's easy to print out pictures through Flickr (I just had a bunch of mine printed and they turned out awesome). There are other options as well, you can easily make calendars, posters, or books of your pictures (I've already made 3 books! Imagine a whole book of your FO's!). You can even turn them into postage stamps.

There are great systems for tagging and organizing your photos and there are four levels of viewing 'privacy'. Flickr allows other members to comment on your photos as well as letting you see how "popular" your picture is based on how many views your image gets, how many comments, how many people add your image as a favorite... there's also an interesting-ness formula... not too sure how it works but it's cool.

Can you tell how much I love flickr? =)

More?

Okay. :rofl: There's a nifty little tool called 'notes'. It lets you put ... well, notes on your image. Instead of adding a caption that says "Malabrigo. From left to right: solymar, pink frost, velvet grapes" You can actually put little 'invisible' boxes on your image.. so people can just mouse-over a certain cake of yarn and a little text block will pop up and say "amber gold"... I think this might only work with other flickr users, though.

I think that's enough for now! If anyone wants more reasons to use flickr just send me a message. :happydance:

Orangeus
05-14-2007, 01:24 PM
I've used Photobucket for a long time, and never had any trouble with it, but it was a real pain to have to resize every single file I uploaded just about.

I just recently made an account with Flicker, with apprehension because I loathe Yahoo deeply. but I am surprised and happy. The 'different sizes' feature is really quite handy.

If you don't often have pictures larger than 500x500, then you don't need that feature, but the photos off my camera are on the largish size which are most of what I upload. Also, the little Flicker program that you can download also comes in use, since it lets you simply right click - send to Flicker. I've also found it to upload quicker that way, than if you try and do it in broswer. PhotoBucket might have a similar program, but I do not know.


Given the fact that both are free, why not make an account with both? The worst thing that might happen is I believe you have to make a Yahoo Email address with Flicker, but no one says you have to activate it, or use it. I've never used mine (Gmail >>> Everything else). As for the ads on Photobucket... they are really bad about this, but I've got an Ad-blocker program on Firefox, so I don't have to see any of them.

Stiney
05-14-2007, 01:27 PM
at this point the only thing i can see that would make me at least start using the flickr account is that ravelry program not being compatible to photobucket. but since i don't have an account on ravelry yet i will stay where i am. :)

Really? That's weird. Photobucket is WAY more popular than Flickr or other services.



I have a Flickr, it does what I need it to do. I've never tried Photobucket.

Julie
05-14-2007, 01:32 PM
I use them both, for different things.

The Flickr terms of use require that when you post your photos elsewhere (like on your blog) they must link back to the Flickr photo page. So for things like site graphics or buttons that need to link to other pages, I use Photobucket. But I do luuuurve Flickr -- the notes feature is awesome! I find it to be less cumbersome than Photobucket to deal with in general. The interface is cleaner, and I just like the look of it better. :D

brendajos
05-14-2007, 01:44 PM
at this point the only thing i can see that would make me at least start using the flickr account is that ravelry program not being compatible to photobucket. but since i don't have an account on ravelry yet i will stay where i am. :)

Really? That's weird. Photobucket is WAY more popular than Flickr or other services.



I have a Flickr, it does what I need it to do. I've never tried Photobucket.


well i don't know that to be true, i was just reading their FAQs and it only mentioned Flickr not PB. :shrug:

cathoo
05-14-2007, 07:08 PM
Or is there another service also available that I should consider?

Picasa Web Albums! (picasaweb.google.com)

I use Picasa to organize my digital pictures on my computer, and using Web Albums allows me to just click a couple of buttons and upload to the internet. It makes everything really easy, you don't have to go searching for file names, or install "third-party" software. You start off with 1GB of space (they claim it's 4000 photos), and you can upload videos too! And (so far) there isn't any limit on how much you can upload in a week/month/whatever

I've also used Flickr, and it's good because I have a Yahoo account, but I didn't like it all that much. I uploaded 5 pictures, then they were all "Buy a premium account if you want to do any more this month!" No thanks!


NOTE: I am a total :heart: google :heart: fangirl.

ETA: Web Albums also lets you download your photos as an album. I can't find any way to do that on Flickr.

Orangeus
05-14-2007, 07:39 PM
Oh dear, I didn't realise Flicker is so weird about linking... I've only ever used trusty Right click - Copy Image Location - Place in img tags method for posting pictures on my account.

simplethings
05-14-2007, 07:56 PM
Oh dear, I didn't realise Flicker is so weird about linking... I've only ever used trusty Right click - Copy Image Location - Place in img tags method for posting pictures on my account.

Yeah, that's something I get confused about...
Flickr makes it easy to post a picture, you choose a size and then there are little boxes underneath the image and you just copy and paste the code.
The strange thing is... is that they offer two versions of the code, one makes the picture a link back to where it is on your flickr (which is the way they request it to be), and the other is just the plain location that you would have to manually enter into img tags.
:??

I've done the manual way many times without any problems or repercussions, but, I've recently started using the linked code 'cause it raises my images' popularity and interestingness. :eyebrow:

sig
05-15-2007, 05:56 AM
i use www.kodakgallery.com, very easy to use!

casey
06-19-2007, 03:58 PM
well i don't know that to be true, i was just reading their FAQs and it only mentioned Flickr not PB. :shrug:

Hi! - it's Casey from Ravelry.

We'll be providing other ways for people to add photos when we open to the public. We know that some of you use Photobucket and we want you to be happy. We chose to start with Flickr for two reasons:

1) It's the best photo service from an integration point of view - the way we tie in with Flickr is nice (in my opinion ;)) and we wish that all services were as open and flexible as Flickr. This why there are all sorts of great tools and applications for Flickr users.

2) It's the most popular among our users. At least so far. We had to pick one for starters and about 2/3 of users would prefer to use Flickr over anything else.

Braden
06-19-2007, 05:51 PM
I recently set up an account with Flickr, and when I copy and paste the code here, it doesn't show an image, just the code with a few wonky links. :shrug: I found out that I actually prefer Flickr, but I can't really use it.

ADAllen
06-19-2007, 06:08 PM
I recently set up an account with Flickr, and when I copy and paste the code here, it doesn't show an image, just the code with a few wonky links. :shrug: I found out that I actually prefer Flickr, but I can't really use it.

I had that happening too. I figured it out! (well my super smart computer lovin hubby figured it out for me:heart:) When you copy the picture location from flickr there is something added at the end here is the location of one of my pictures:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/426213631_0f5437deee.jpg?v=0

The ?v=0 shouldn't be there on the end. Our forum needs the picture to stop at .jpg. If you insert the picture and before you close the box delete the ?v=0, your picture will show up in the post just like this:http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/426213631_0f5437deee.jpg

casey
06-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Yeah - Flickr doesn't provide easy access to pasteable links like Photobucket. This bookmarklet is pretty cool, you just drag it to your bookmark bar, click it when you are on a Flickr page, and it displays image links for each photo on the page. It's also got a few tricks and can display bbcode and other things...

http://henrik.nyh.se/2007/03/improved-bookmark-to-batch-link-flickr-images

Braden
06-19-2007, 06:56 PM
Thanks, Amanda!

Braden
06-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Okay, let me try now:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1438/563347085_99f008c61b_o.jpg

Okay, it works, but doesn't Flickr require that you make the photos link back to their site?

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/563347085/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1438/563347085_99f008c61b_o.jpg" width="350" height="262" alt="Lace Scarf Detail" /></a>

That's what I get when I just copy and paste the Option 1 code from Flickr. I wonder why?

ADAllen
06-19-2007, 07:14 PM
I just looked over the TOS and I didn't see anything that said you had to (I did only peruse it though). If you think it would be better, you could always include a link too.

Braden
06-19-2007, 07:17 PM
Okay, good idea. Here's the section of the guidlines:

Remember! Flickr Community Guidelines (http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne) specify that if you post a Flickr photo on an external website, the photo must link back to its photo page. (So, use Option 1.)

misha rf
06-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I have an account with both. I got the Photobucket account b/c of the ability to upload video. It's slow going, though. I haven't really played around with the Flickr account yet...looking forward to it!

Braden
06-19-2007, 11:45 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_70a369c7b1_o.jpg

Candle Flame Shawl (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_70a369c7b1_o.jpg?)

I think the reason why I can't make the photos themselves a link is because Flickr uses HTML, which is turned off on this board.

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 01:28 AM
I LOVE my Flickr account.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59646927@N00/

I use it EVERY day, and have never been disappointed. :)

My hubby bought a Pro account for my birthday, and I know it will be renewed on my birthday for the rest of my life. I can't live without it. :teehee:

Braden
06-20-2007, 01:59 AM
Sandy, how do you post your Flickr photos on KH, while making the photos themselves a link? I just can't seem to get this right.

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:10 AM
Sandy, how do you post your Flickr photos on KH, while making the photos themselves a link? I just can't seem to get this right.

I've never wanted to make them a link, so I don't know how to help you. Sorry! :pout:

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:11 AM
I'll try this and see what happens.
(I clicked the paperclip and entered the url location)

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:12 AM
No link there.

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:13 AM
My usual way of entering my photos is like this:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1201/543571252_8305505a41.jpg

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:13 AM
Still no link.

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:14 AM
Here's the HTML code, which I don't think will work:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/59646927@N00/543571252/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1201/543571252_8305505a41.jpg" width="500" height="371" alt="Supersoft Wool Neckwarmer for Dulaan Project" /></a>

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 02:16 AM
Sorry....at least I tried. :shrug:

Brownishcoat (Lisa) could probably figure it out. She's smart, and she has a Flickr account.

Braden
06-20-2007, 03:53 AM
Hmm, that sounds like a good idea. That's my usual method of posting photos, too, and there's never a link. Let me try something and see if it works.

Edit, nope, it didn't work. I'll just stick with the way you posted earlier, but doesn't Flickr require that if you post the photos on an external site, that the photos have to have a link back to that original page?

Braden
06-20-2007, 03:55 AM
Yup, this is my usual photo-entering method.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_6d852c41fb_o.jpg

Aran Sweater (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_6d852c41fb_o.jpg?)

I've found that I prefer my Flickr account, http://www.flickr.com/photos/9031617@N02/ much more than Photobucket. Flickr doesn't have all those ads all over the place, and it seems much easier to navigate and work to me.

mulene
06-20-2007, 05:06 AM
Heres how you use option one in Flikr and post to this forum

When you open the box with "reply to thread" there are various options above the window you type in. There are options for formatting your text, and the font etc. Then you get some pictoral options. The first one a globe with a chain link on top of it is the one you want. It is "insert URL"

My inserting will pee the mods off cos the size is wrong right now but anyway here goes:

Option 1 says: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mulene/314095636/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/314095636_757137b1ef_o.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="third socks" /></a>

I click on "insert link" and paste that exact line into it and produce the following on this post:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/314095636_757137b1ef_o.jpg (http://www.knittinghelp.com/knitting/forum/%3Ca%20href=)">http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/314095636_757137b1ef_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mulene/314095636/)

kristinw
06-20-2007, 07:47 AM
Okay, I'm going to try it that way mulene.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1279/540419010_9bf62d1288.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kristinw/540419010/)

kristinw
06-20-2007, 07:49 AM
It worked - but it posted the picture twice. So I just deleted one of the pics before I submitted the reply. I always try to do the link back to flickr because I don't want the flickr police to ban me! :teehee: Now I know how do it easily! Yay! I never thought to use the link button.

mulene
06-20-2007, 08:26 AM
yeah it posted it twice for me too couldn't work out why but only had about 30 seconds before I had to scoot off to work =D

brownishcoat
06-20-2007, 09:55 AM
Testing:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/476036962_743b10ac75_m.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/476036962_743b10ac75_m.jpg)


Here is the code for the above:

imageurlI had to add the underscores to "break" the code. It just keeps coming up as links or images, even with the "code" tags. :?? :shrug:

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 09:58 AM
So, shouldn't we choose the option "all sizes", and use the "Medium" or "Small" size code?

Stiney
06-20-2007, 10:04 AM
The new board automatically resizes, so you don't have to, but medium is perfect for the boards.

Conti, not sure if you ever got an answer to how to link back to flickr. You're right, they provide HTML code and KH uses bbcode.

In order to make it link you need to write it like this:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/254/445609432_ceb2b68669.jpg



Without the spaces.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/254/445609432_ceb2b68669.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cawthraven/445609432/)

brownishcoat
06-20-2007, 10:06 AM
I just select whatever size I want and right-click to copy the image location. If it adds the extra characters after the ".jpg", I delete them.

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 10:08 AM
You guys are just TOO smart. :notworthy:

Stiney
06-20-2007, 10:13 AM
In my case, it's "too nerdy." :teehee:

brendajos
06-20-2007, 10:23 AM
see... and with Photobucket there wouldn't even have to be all this discussion how to do it... ya just click on the code and paste it in here. Photobucket also doesn't limit me on how many folders i can have in my free account and it doesnt make blogging my pictures more tedious than it needs to be. I guess there are ads but i find the site looks cleaner (to me) than Flickr does and the ads don't even effect me. (I seriously don't notice them.)

sadly as much as i love photobucket i am going to have to leave them as soon as i find something that works as well for me as it does. They just sold out to Rupert Murdoch's News Corp and I just can't be happy about that. Though I suppose it COULD be fun for me to fill my photobucket account with pictures of "subersive" activities...hrmmm...:thinking:

rebecca
06-20-2007, 10:31 AM
I'm with Bren! I love, love Photobucket, have I couldn't even imagine how many photos, many, many folders, use the html option to upload photos here, on my blog, everywhere, love, love it is my fave and I have a Pro acct and have for some time.
But, I also have an acct on Flickr because friends had invited and I wanted a Flickr badge for my sidebar on my blog and Ravelry is set up for use with Flickr...depending upon how much I like/use Ravelry I may end up with a pro acct at Flickr, too. But, Photobucket is still my FAVE!

Shandeh
06-20-2007, 10:37 AM
In my case, it's "too nerdy." :teehee:
:teehee:

Braden
06-20-2007, 03:27 PM
Does it work?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_e04f50b641.jpg

Stiney
06-20-2007, 03:31 PM
Conti, remove the spaces in the code and it will. :thumbsup:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_f8cff4ea25.jpg
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/574177623/)


(Except it currently tells me that the photo is currently unavailable.) :shrug:

ETA: Okay, figured it out. You need to remove the spaces, and it didn't work for me because you didn't erase everything in mine.

(without the underscore) around a link will make it a link. can be substituted for the first, and then you paste the link after the equal sign. [url_=http://www.hotmail.com]hotmail without the space will show as hotmail (http://www.hotmail.com).

(without the underscore) around a link that ends in an image extension (i.e. jpg, gif, bmp, png, etc.) will show up as an image.

If you use the [url] tag, instead of inserting text (hotmail), you can insert a picture. This will make the picture a link.

Please let me know if all of this makes sense.

Stiney
06-20-2007, 04:02 PM
=" (http://=%22%3Ca%20href=%22http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/574177623/%22%20target=%22_blank%22%3Ehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/574177623/%3C/a%3E%22%20title=%22Photo%20Sharing%22%3E%3Cimg%20s rc=%22%3Ca%20href=%22http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_f8cff4ea25_m.jpg%22%20target=%22_blank%2 2%3Ehttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_f8cff4ea25_m.jpg%3C/a%3E%22%20width=%22240%22%20height=%22180%22%20alt =%22Aran%20Almost%20done%21%22)http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/574177623/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_f8cff4ea25_m.jpg" width="240" height="180" alt="Aran Almost done!"


If you really want to link back to Flickr (they ask you to, but they don't enforce it), the easiest way is to open your post window and type the url= code. Then, in another window, go to the Flickr page with the photo, and copy the address and paste it into the code.

Then type the img code, and right click on the image. Copy the image location, paste it into the code, and delete everything after .jpg

Close both tags, and it should post correctly.

Stiney
06-20-2007, 04:29 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_6d852c41fb_o.jpg? (http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/574177623/)


Hey Conti, what are you copying from the Flickr site? Are you copying anything that's between <> marks?

Braden
06-20-2007, 04:33 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_6d852c41fb_o.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/574177623_6d852c41fb_o.jpg)

I've got it! Thanks Stine!

Stiney
06-20-2007, 04:36 PM
Okay, that's probably what is causing the weirdness. You don't want the html code, because that causes wonky behavior on these boards (which aren't supposed to be able to read html.)

Above, I gave the template for posting the pictures with the link--the url code and the img code.

Delete everything that you copied that doesn't start with "http://" because that part is all html code. You just want the specific addresses.

By the way, the aran looks great.

Braden
06-20-2007, 06:28 PM
Okay, let's try again just to make absolutely sure.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_e04f50b641.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_e04f50b641.jpg)

Yup, I've completely got it now! Thanks again, Stiney!

Braden
06-20-2007, 06:34 PM
And now for a thumbnail that links directly to it's photo page:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/563346753_e04f50b641_t.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/conti_knits/563346753/in/set-72157600406991251)

Yup, I've got it!!!

ADAllen
06-20-2007, 06:37 PM
:cheering:*cheers*:cheering: Thanks everyone. I'm glad it's all figured out.

Stiney
06-20-2007, 10:02 PM
:muah:

It's no problem, Conti, I'm glad you figured it out. :hug:

Shandeh
06-21-2007, 12:56 AM
see... and with Photobucket there wouldn't even have to be all this discussion how to do it... ya just click on the code and paste it in here.

Well, I didn't even really want to use the photos with a link. :teehee:
I was just trying to figure it out because someone asked. :shrug:

I'm perfectly happy with my photos showing without a link. :thumbsup:

Braden
06-21-2007, 02:36 AM
I only wanted mine to link because I thought it was required by Flickr, but, oh, well. :shrug: Thanks again!

kristinw
06-21-2007, 08:20 AM
I only wanted mine to link because I thought it was required by Flickr, but, oh, well. :shrug: Thanks again!

I do the same thing. It just seems like the right thing to do! :thumbsup:

mwedzi
06-21-2007, 09:50 AM
I have both Photobucket and Flickr. If I just want to post a photo to a board, I use Photobucket. But in other ways I like Flickr better because it's more of a community, with groups for example. Like I can search for the Twinkle Big City Knits group and see lots of stuff knit from that book. I don't even know how to view pictures from other people's Photobucket accounts without them giving a link to the picture or album itself, so when I want to see a particular knitted thing, I always go to Flickr and search for it.

Shandeh
06-21-2007, 12:44 PM
I only wanted mine to link because I thought it was required by Flickr, but, oh, well. :shrug: Thanks again!

I do the same thing. It just seems like the right thing to do! :thumbsup:

I SHOULD worry about it, but I don't. I figure I'm paying for my account, so they should make it work for ME. :teehee: