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ecb
03-26-2008, 02:33 PM
I was talking to a friend of mine about knitting, and she told me she is not the kind of person who would knit, she fills her time with going out to the bar, and she ended her argument with "heck, I even smoke Cigarettes". Made me wonder how many of us are her idea of a "knitting type"

Abbily
03-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Funny you should post this today- it's basically the topic of the yarn harlot's blog today. :)

cindycactus
03-26-2008, 02:46 PM
Grew up with lots of smokers but never smoked myself.:knitting:

saracidaltendencies
03-26-2008, 02:46 PM
LOL!

I do smoke, have for 18 years...I also occasionally get together with friends (or a friend) and go to a bar...Hmm, maybe next time I should take my knitting and see what kind of looks I get...haha

It amuses me, the general stereotype of knitters.

laptop_knitter
03-26-2008, 03:01 PM
I guess it's different varities of displacment activities - different people keep their bodies in motion in different ways.

ladyjessica
03-26-2008, 03:12 PM
I don't smoke, never have, never would. A good many people in my family smoke or have smoked, and growing up and seeing the toll it takes and what it does to you, I just never had the desire. Also, I'm a singer and I didn't want to screw up my voice. That said, I have a friend who smokes, and drinks, and goes to bars. And takes her knitting. It's so funny to see her sitting on a bar stool with a beer knitting a scarf, and the looks she gets. :teehee:

Hildegard_von_Knittin
03-26-2008, 03:43 PM
I'm a smoker, have been for a long time. I quit cold turkey in January of 05, and started back up again in April of 06.
I was a voice major in college, and worked as a music teacher for 7 years; it never had an adverse affect on my voice, and I can still hold that high C for 28 seconds!
I'll quit (again) when I'm ready.... it *is* on my 101 list!

vaknitter
03-26-2008, 04:15 PM
Nope, not a smoker. Not sure I fit the stereotype of a knitter though. I love sports, I've been known to hang out in a bar to play pool or watch "the game." Many of my friends are shocked to see me pull out a knitting project every so often.

iza
03-26-2008, 04:29 PM
I smoked 4-5 cigarettes in my entire life, so I can't really call myself a smoker. :teehee: Do I fit the knitter stereotype? I'm not really sure what it means... I think we are representative of society, don't you think? :shrug:

Still, it's funny to have such stereotypes about knitters! A knitter wouldn't break any contract by going to a bar or have a cigarette once in a while... :teehee:

DianaM
03-26-2008, 04:36 PM
Used to. I'll never be completely rid of it, but I have quit cold turkey for at least a few years in order to increase my chances of getting pregnant and having a successfull pregnancy.

lelvsdgs
03-26-2008, 04:42 PM
Don't smoke, most likely due to having grown up in a house where the parents smoked like chimneys and hating the smell. It's funny that people think knitters don't smoke though, I know many that do... I probably do fit some of the stereotypes of a knitter but I think for the most part, I don't.

Jan in CA
03-26-2008, 04:46 PM
I don't smoke and never have. My parents both smoked, but neither I nor my 3 siblings ever smoked. My dad now has asthma and COPD from it so he no longer smokes, but it's taken it's toll.

This is an interesting topic. Something I've been wondering about is what part of the country most knitting smokers live. The reason I wonder is that I know very few smokers now in my area. I wonder if it's more prevalent in other parts of the country. Guess that's a poll for another day. ;)

Oh re: damaging your voice... it DOES. You don't notice it among young people, but virtually everyone I know who smokes and is over 50 has a changed voice. Maybe it's not something you notice if you are a smoker? :shrug:

Jan in CA
03-26-2008, 05:49 PM
Funny you should post this today- it's basically the topic of the yarn harlot's blog today. :)

I read it every day and I don't see anything about smoking. Did I miss something?

lacalagirl
03-26-2008, 05:53 PM
I gave up in December after smoking for 18 years! :happydance: I have found it tough though and really crave one now and again. :aww:

I find it's easier knitting now I've given up because when I used to smoke I was obsessed with washing my hands thoroughly so the smell didn't taint my latest project.

Interesting topic though and I for one don't think you can sterotype any group.

Rachel

jjminarcik
03-26-2008, 06:35 PM
I wouldn't call myself a "smoker", but I do smoke when I'm out at a bar drinking with friends. Or if I get REALLY stressed (which thankfully isn't too often!). I don't like the smell either, and I know it's a disgusting habit. But it's pretty much a bar/drinking type habit only.

According to non-knitters, I don't fit the knitting stereotype. Each time I knit either in front of family, friends, or in public, people make some sort of comment about me being too young to knit. Who cares? I just do what I like to do!

jcmom
03-26-2008, 07:13 PM
No, never have smoked, but grew up with smokers. I have asthma so I really appreciate being able to breathe. Unfortunately, I've known people who died from lung cancer. Not the way I'd want to go.

figaro
03-26-2008, 07:22 PM
Not sure how long I smoked although I was never a heavy smoker-don't think I ever even bought myself a carton of cigs! At the time I quit, I smoked even less, maybe 1 pack every 2-3 weeks so when I found out I was preggers, it was every easy. Every now and then, I think I would like to have one in a bar with a nice cold beer but then what would I do with my 3 kids!:teehee: (don't know anyone here for babysitting!)

bjc1050
03-26-2008, 07:59 PM
I smoke, but don't go to bars. Saw enough of them as a kid. I've never been a drinker of anything besides, coffe, tea, juice or cola (without alcohol). If cigarettes were as fattening as alcohol, I probably never would have started, :LOL.

Mike
03-26-2008, 08:06 PM
In addition to cigarettes I also smoke a pipe, use nasal snuff, rarely cigars and occasionally chew tobacco.

I bet that really throws a wrench into the stereotype :mrgreen:

ecb
03-26-2008, 10:36 PM
when I was 22, and in my first semester of Nursing school, I got walking Pneumonia, my Dr agreed to not hospitalize me on the condition I quit smoking then and there. She gave me Nicotine Gum, and I tweaked her recommendations to use it
I thought it was a good idea to uit since I had been smoking half my life.
it WORKED, I have not had a cig since, I get cravings every once in a while, especially when driving long distance

I laughed when she said she could not learn knitting because she smoked, but when I thought about it, I cannot think of more than 2 or 3 people who knit and smoke (not even at the same time)

thank you all

I also do not fit the sterio-type
I M the mother of multiple daughters getting up in years
but I M a very vocal/political lesbian/dyke
I work at a summer camp for kids
I live in jeans and t-shirts (and the occasional sweater and/or socks)


ecb

Cynamar
03-27-2008, 02:04 AM
My dad has some kind of lung problem. I don't know what it's called, but it's hereditary and he had part of a lung removed in high school. Smoking was totally out of the question in our house and we were taught to hate it. One brother smoked for awhile and the other's wife smokes, so I guess it didn't "take" on all of us. I couldn't afford it if I wanted to smoke. I'm a single mom and have so little extra money. It should be spent on yarn!

DianaM
03-27-2008, 02:59 AM
I did crochet and smoke at the same time while I lived in Colorado. Managed to do both simultaneously.
People would give me odd looks when they saw me sitting outside the bookstore, smoking, dressed in black (was going through goth-y stage) and crocheting stuff in baby blue yarn.

willowangel
03-27-2008, 08:11 AM
I don't smoke, but often take my knitting to the bar with me - have had a lot of people come up and ask to learn too ;-) Handy when the music's too loud for conversation ;-)

scout52
03-27-2008, 01:41 PM
I never smoked, but i don't think I fit the stereotype of a knitter because whenever people find out that I'm a knitter they are like "You KNIT?!?!!! and I'm like what do you mean? they always respond that I'm like a guy in a dress. LOL. I never know whether to take that as a compliment or an insult.

Silver
03-27-2008, 02:37 PM
There is no such thing as a knitter stereotype anymore. Anyone could be a knitter... even your neighbor. So be careful... we're everywhere!

I smoked for about 18 years, off and on, and quit for good about 2.5 years ago, and have zero cravings now.

Banrion
03-27-2008, 02:44 PM
I quit in August, and I picked up knitting to help me stay that way. Knitting was my solution to occupy my hands through the cravings. I guess you could say my yarn addiciton replaced my nicotine addiction.

princess
03-27-2008, 03:37 PM
ok, i have to ask. I have always been curious as to why people would quit smoking and then start again. I never wanted to be rude though so i havent asked till now. I noticed that a few of you said you quit and then/will start(ed) smoking again. WHY?!? i have never touched a cigarette so maybe its just something i dont get? i just wonder why you would start again when you managed to quit and be healthier. no offense meant, just an honest, curious question :)

Plantgoddess+
03-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Nicotine is a drug. Most people start smoking for the same reason some people drink or do other drugs. It makes you feel good while you are consuming it. When you feel stressed or under pressure a cigarette is one way of relieving the stress. For women especially smoking can be a temporary weight loss tool.

Abbily
03-27-2008, 03:59 PM
I read it every day and I don't see anything about smoking. Did I miss something?

Sorry, I meant knitter stereotypes, not smoking. :) She wrote about how you can't really classify knitters as any one 'type'.

Mike
03-27-2008, 04:39 PM
ok, i have to ask. I have always been curious as to why people would quit smoking and then start again. I never wanted to be rude though so i havent asked till now. I noticed that a few of you said you quit and then/will start(ed) smoking again. WHY?!? i have never touched a cigarette so maybe its just something i dont get? i just wonder why you would start again when you managed to quit and be healthier. no offense meant, just an honest, curious question :)
I had quit for 1.5 years (quit cigarettes but smoked a pipe, they're not the same effect).
I started back up because of panic attacks and doctors not being willing to give Xanax but being willing to give drugs that mess with your head.
Had they just given me Xanax to break the panic cycle I was in I probably wouldn't smoke cigarettes and would backed way off pipes (I was cutting back on the pipes at that time).

Like Plantgoddess+ said, it's a drug and many people use it to self medicate.

Amyzing
03-27-2008, 05:20 PM
I quit in August, and I picked up knitting to help me stay that way. Knitting was my solution to occupy my hands through the cravings. I guess you could say my yarn addiciton replaced my nicotine addiction.

I've found that knitting has replaced my addiction with nicotine, too! I smoked for almost 4 years and thought I was going to have a hard time quitting. I've gone back to chewing gum pretty regularly and when I get a big craving for a smoke I go find whatever project I'm working on and knit a few rows. By the time I'm done my head is cleared and my urge for nicotine has calmed down.

sakura-panda
03-27-2008, 06:48 PM
My dad smoked when I was growing up and it totally grossed me out. :)

I've never smoked. :fingerwag:

I find it odd that knitters smoke; isn't it bad for the yarn? I think it would make the yarn smell yucky. :oops:

spectorkitty
03-27-2008, 07:15 PM
ok, i have to ask. I have always been curious as to why people would quit smoking and then start again. I never wanted to be rude though so i havent asked till now. I noticed that a few of you said you quit and then/will start(ed) smoking again. WHY?!? i have never touched a cigarette so maybe its just something i dont get? i just wonder why you would start again when you managed to quit and be healthier. no offense meant, just an honest, curious question :)


I quit for five years once, after having surgery for a tumor in my ovary, and severe dysplasia. I didn't want to quit and it was extremely difficult. I missed it all the time. I didn't start again though due to the fact that my then husband quit at the same time and just breezed through it.

We started having problems and actually broke up, and I started smoking again after moving and getting a new job, etc. There was so much stress and I had never wanted to quit in the first place.

I'm still smoking but don't smoke in the house. so my yarn isn't smoke filled!!

Mike
03-27-2008, 07:51 PM
I find it odd that knitters smoke; isn't it bad for the yarn? I think it would make the yarn smell yucky. :oops:
LOL
If I was going to worry about something it would be my lungs not the yarn :)

princess
03-27-2008, 09:18 PM
Nicotine is a drug. Most people start smoking for the same reason some people drink or do other drugs. It makes you feel good while you are consuming it. When you feel stressed or under pressure a cigarette is one way of relieving the stress. For women especially smoking can be a temporary weight loss tool.

I had quit for 1.5 years (quit cigarettes but smoked a pipe, they're not the same effect).
I started back up because of panic attacks and doctors not being willing to give Xanax but being willing to give drugs that mess with your head.
Had they just given me Xanax to break the panic cycle I was in I probably wouldn't smoke cigarettes and would backed way off pipes (I was cutting back on the pipes at that time).

Like Plantgoddess+ said, it's a drug and many people use it to self medicate.

I quit for five years once, after having surgery for a tumor in my ovary, and severe dysplasia. I didn't want to quit and it was extremely difficult. I missed it all the time. I didn't start again though due to the fact that my then husband quit at the same time and just breezed through it.

We started having problems and actually broke up, and I started smoking again after moving and getting a new job, etc. There was so much stress and I had never wanted to quit in the first place.

I'm still smoking but don't smoke in the house. so my yarn isn't smoke filled!!

fair enough, thanks for the replies. It makes sense, i guess when i do think of it more as a "drug" and compare it to (illegal) drug addicts and alcoholics they do frequently relapse when trying to quit so it makes more sense to me. As i said, i never tried a cigarette, or anything of that nature so i cant really understand an addiction since i have never been in those shoes, and therefore try not to judge, only understand (as best i can)

annomalley
03-29-2008, 12:19 PM
ok, i have to ask. I have always been curious as to why people would quit smoking and then start again. I never wanted to be rude though so i havent asked till now. I noticed that a few of you said you quit and then/will start(ed) smoking again. WHY?!? i have never touched a cigarette so maybe its just something i dont get? i just wonder why you would start again when you managed to quit and be healthier. no offense meant, just an honest, curious question :)

There is something in nicotine that releases some chemical in the brain that makes you feel good. It's a drug, basically. I quit smoking years ago once, but started again when I was going through a very stressful time, and it was because I was craving that "good feeling" and I gave into the need to experience that. That's also where some people who do smoke say they "enjoy" it and don't want to quit. It's the chemical release in the brain. I've had the same craving for particular foods when I'm stressed out about something and experienced that same chemical release in the brain after eating said comfort foods.

BTW, I quit smoking for good about 3 1/2 years ago and I don't miss it. I've had small cravings once in a great while, but I've not given into them. Addiction is both physical and psychological. I get that same sort of chemical release type feeling through other avenues. There have been times when I've craved the feeling of yarn in my hands and experienced that same chemical release in the brain when I picked up that yarn and started knitting with it.

annomalley
03-29-2008, 12:22 PM
fair enough, thanks for the replies. It makes sense, i guess when i do think of it more as a "drug" and compare it to (illegal) drug addicts and alcoholics they do frequently relapse when trying to quit so it makes more sense to me. As i said, i never tried a cigarette, or anything of that nature so i cant really understand an addiction since i have never been in those shoes, and therefore try not to judge, only understand (as best i can)


I've heard somewhere that nicotine can be as addictive as heroin, which also explains why it's so hard for people to quit smoking.

spectorkitty
03-29-2008, 09:22 PM
I realized that after my post I didn't say WHY I started again, I mean why I felt that smoking was something I needed. I can't explain it, I guess it is the addiction to nicotine. It's the whole inhaling and blowing the smoke out as well that's very relaxing to me. I think that there are studies that show that when you smoke everything goes up, your heart rate, your blood pressure but it doesn't feel that way to me, I just feel ahhh....relaxed.

A lot of it is just habit, like smoking after eating or with my first cup of coffee in the morning. I was going to quit for the new year but I just couldn't. I keep saying, well after this medical procedure I'll quit ( I got an epidural for a protruding disc) then, well after my vacation, or well, after this or that.

I want to quit and I don't. I know it's bad for me, I know it's bad for the kids even though I never smoke around them or in the house. It's a bad example and a weakness.

Maybe someday.

princess
03-29-2008, 11:06 PM
^^ you can at least give yourself credit for admitting it. It annoys me when people try to defend smoking and act like the health issues are all a hype, so i respect you for admitting its bad and a weakness.:hug:

Rorshach
03-29-2008, 11:53 PM
I am a smoker, and I've tried to quit many times, but I always make that foolish mistake when hanging around my friends who do smoke and they ask me if I want one. I usually end up saying yes.

As far as to why, yes it's a drug, but to put it in a more visual light, think about it this way, there is something that gives you pleasure more than anything else in this world, but you know its bad for you, for some, smoking, others overeating, it gives you immense pleasure to do so, and you try to quit doing it, for a while you're successful, then you have a moment of weakness, to some, they recognize that weakness and move past it, others recognize it and make excuses like "1 won't kill me" and pretty soon are back to doing it again.

Silver
03-30-2008, 11:21 AM
ok, i have to ask. I have always been curious as to why people would quit smoking and then start again...
The first time I quit, was because I was pregnant with my son. So I quit for him, not for me. When I wasn't pregnant anymore, I started smoking again because I liked smoking and never really wanted to quit in the first place. Same thing when I was pregnant with my daughter. That's two quits. Another quit was for financial reasons. DH and I both quit because we were spending so much on cigarettes and we were trying to get a handle on our finances. So again, I didn't quit because I wanted to, and eventually started again when we were financially comfortable again.

This last time, one day I was just like, "I don't want to smoke anymore." So I quit, just like that. I quit for ME, because I wanted to quit. So it stuck. And I have no desire to start again.

I won't lie and say I never think about it. I do, because I remember what it was like inhaling smoke and blowing it out, and the relaxing feeling that came with it. Plus almost everyone I hang out with smokes, including my DH (although he only smokes outside) so it's hard to ignore. But even with all of that, I don't WANT to smoke again. I really, really love saying that I'm a non-smoker. I like waking up and not having that ache in my lungs that's only fixed by having a smoke. I LIKE that I quit successfully for ME and only me. I'm proud of myself and I don't want that to go away. :cheering:

Cynamar
03-30-2008, 11:35 AM
:cheering: That's a good reason!

VictoiseC
04-04-2008, 05:28 PM
and I can still hold that high C for 28 seconds!
I'll quit (again) when I'm ready.... it *is* on my 101 list!


Holy SMOKES! That's amazing... I'd like to hear that Hildy!
I used to be to hit a high C, what a great feeling.

I stopped singing but I still smoke but only at night and only a few with cocktails. Small and handrolled so it's half a cigarette. (...)
I know I need to stop soon but, as long as I don't do it all day I feel a bit ok. I actually hate the smell of it on the street in the day.

My husband's coworker had a heart attack yesterday, a heavy smoker in his 50s.

Now bars are a whole other story. :teehee: (actually I don't go like I used to, it's just toooooooo $$$$$$)

Dangles
04-04-2008, 05:38 PM
Non smoker here.

ecb
04-04-2008, 06:55 PM
I am a smoker, and I've tried to quit many times, but I always make that foolish mistake when hanging around my friends who do smoke and they ask me if I want one. I usually end up saying yes . . . . and make excuses like "1 won't kill me" and pretty soon are back to doing it again.


actually, you do not know which one of them will cause the change that mutates your lung cells into something malignant. No one knows

I do not know if I have a cell that will get old and turn on me, but by the time I quit, I had smoked from 3 weeks before I started Mense (just after turning 11yo), till I was 23 years old. All of Puberty.

more than you needed to know, but its something that worries me on occasion, and 1 of the things that keeps me from picking up another one

ecb

gamerchik
04-05-2008, 05:23 PM
I quit smoking on 4/2/07, so I just made it through the first year...woohoo!!! :D

Knitting, video games, and the Commit lozenges (we took them for the first month or so) REALLY helped me to quit (my husband quit about 9 days after I did...we're pretty amazing! lol). Quitting is so hard...we still think/talk about smoking all the time, although we're determined to stay quit, especially with our little grape nut on the way. Everyone has warned us not to start smoking again after she's born...it's pretty annoying. Like we don't know that smoking is a bad habit or something...lol. :)