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Dishrag
05-11-2009, 12:11 PM
I've googled and googled till my googler is sore!

I'm looking for an empire waist, baby doll type sweater like one sees in all those "Forever 21" type stores. I want to be forever 21 too!

I've found a few candidates, but none quite right: some were cardigans, some had criss-crossing busts, most others had a ribbon to cinch the waist. I want something very simple and unadorned, like this lovely cashmere version:

http://www.shirtsnob.com/pictures/alevinebabydoll.jpg

Given the popularity of this style, I thought it would be easy to find online. But I give up! I just can't find it.

Ideas??

Many, many thanks!

Francy

Mirl56
05-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Have you seen these?
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=86adcc67ac9a79f5d7a7e1cc6f91e8 26&topic=96442.msg913405
http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEsummer08/PATTheyteach.html
http://www.blueskyalpacas.com/pattern_detail.php?patterns_ID=75
http://knitty.com/ISSUEwinter07/PATTdahlia.html


Seems like most do have ribbon or a knit or crochet chain to draw them in under the bust. You could always run elastic on the inside if you didn't want it to show.

Dishrag
05-12-2009, 09:34 PM
Thank you! I have seen those.

The alpaca one might work, if I can replace the ribbon with elastic.

I also really like the cabled one, but I need a more modest neckline, and long sleeves. I'm a new knitter, so I'm not so good at modifying pattern. I can make some changes...maybe. But I can't imagine that I'll do a very good job modifying a plunging neckline. It would probably come out puckery or uneven.

Hmmmmmm.

I also found a nice one (2 actually) at Annies Attic, but it is a cardigan. I'm sure there is a logical way to turn a cardigan pattern into a pullover pattern, but since I'd actually like to wear the result in public, I'm not sure I'm ready to figure it out.
http://image.drgnetwork.com/product/super_closeup/23354.jpg

Maybe if I buy the yarn at my local shop, the owner would help me a bit? (Or maybe not--last time I was browsing in there, they were complaining about customers wanting THEM to recalculate the pattern for a different gague.)

Francy

gulfcoastgal
05-25-2009, 06:57 AM
THe summer issue of Interweave Knits had 2 with an empire waist
Look on Ravelry for how others modified them- added length/added a bit higher neck line etc

imrachel
05-25-2009, 07:06 AM
I'd try www.garnstudio.com. They have loads of that sort of pattern, and all free.

suzeeq
05-25-2009, 09:24 AM
To change a cardigan into a pullover, knit the fronts as one piece, then divide when you get to the neck shaping and follow the instructions for the shaping.

bambi
05-25-2009, 09:43 AM
You could make this one in long sleeves:

http://www.patternworks.com/productdetail/801380/CAP-SLEEVE-PULLOVER-PATTERN.htm

Or close this:

http://www.patternworks.com/productdetail/801591/U-NECK-TOP-PATTERN.htm

Have you looked through patternfish.com? They have hundreds of patterns, too at a minimal cost.

Personally, I'd rather be 31 Forever! :teehee:

Bambi

suzeeq
05-25-2009, 10:27 AM
41 was a good age too....

JudiToots
05-28-2009, 08:36 AM
Francy,

I really like the empire waist top that you included in your original post!

I had only a little bit of time to look this morning. I found 3 patterns that are similar but may entail more detail than what you desire.

http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=112&d_id=3&lang=us
http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=107&d_id=2&lang=us
http://www.garnstudio.com/lang/en/visoppskrift.php?d_nr=105&d_id=18&lang=us

I highly recommend looking at http://www.knittingpatterncentral.com and http://www.garnstudio.com. I didn't even get close to looking at all the patterns at Garn Studio.

Hope this helps.

Mirl56
05-28-2009, 11:23 AM
Shoot, 51 is starting to look pretty good too!

Good luck in your search, Francy!

Dishrag
06-12-2009, 11:03 PM
Thank you everyone for the suggestions!

It has been one month since my original post, and I shudder to think of the hours I have spent looking for my dream sweater. I really think I've seen it all, and all the internet searching has made my wrists ache so much, it is now hard to knit.

Problem is, everything is ALMOST ok. In particular, I've seen several sleevless tanks that could work, but I want sleeves.

I'm a new, but decent knitter, and I have a somewhat mathematical brain. So I should maybe be able to create this myself? I think? I've been studying EZ's percentages system in the hopes that I can create a top down, seamless or nearly seamless sweater (After one too many asymmetrical armpits, et al. I never want to seam another seater).

How I wish I had a warm body here who could help me with a few details. I'm dreading starting this project b/c of course I won't get it right on the first try (I've spent the last couple days trying to design a frilly "pi poncho" for a friend, and I had to restart 4 times due to math or measurement errors. On just a poncho.)

When one ventures into the land of sweater invention, should one make a teeny version first, to see if the design works? Or will I just have to spend weeks on it, only to find that it doesn't hang right, etc.? Is there a procedure to make this any easier?

My "dream sweater" can't be that hard. For the empire waist part, I'd be happy with simply changing to a vertical stitch for that part of the body (cables? sideways garter? anything!). That would create a visual change (I don't want elastic or drawstring). Then for that "vertical" portions, I'd like it to swing out a bit, trapeze style. But I don't know how to plan the increases (tho I think EZ has some discussions about increase rates).

So I could go top down, with a horizontally oriented yoke. Cap sleeves would be great, and a long sleeve version too. After the chest zone (once past "the girls"), I could go with a vertical pattern. Not sure if I can do this seamlessly. I did a hat with a wide band of vertical garter stitch which involved casting on about 14 new stitches. But that might not work for a sweater--too many stitches.

Ok, I think I'm babbling now. Maybe I should do a new thread...

Thank you again!

Back to the pi poncho!

:-)

francy