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SilverOak
07-08-2009, 04:34 PM
blue sky alpacas KID'S SWEATER

Mock Waffle Stitch Pattern:
Row 1 (RS) Knit
Row 2 Purl
Row 3 P1, *k1,p1 (repeat from * across row)
Row 4 Purl
Row 5 Knit
Row 6 Repeat row 3

Sleeve Instructions:
Working added sts into pattern, increase 1 stitch each end every 4th row 17 times - 71 stitches.

On the increase rows, which have all ended up being either a purl row or a k1,p1 row, I am doing a p1f&b at the 1st stitch in and then again at the next to last stitch.

BUT somehow my pattern is ‘shifting’ as I do an increase row and that is my problem.

Ideas?

Jan in CA
07-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Are you knitting flat or in the round? Do you have a link?

SilverOak
07-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Are you knitting flat or in the round? Do you have a link?

It is knitted flat. There is a completed sweater shown on ravelry: blue sports alpaca KID'S SWEATER http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/kids-sweater-2

suzeeq
07-08-2009, 06:43 PM
After you've increased sts, don't start your rows the same as written. It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette, and then after the first inc, you would start the pattern on the 2nd st. After the next inc, start it on the 3rd st, though after 3 incs, you'd be able to start the row on the first st again.

SilverOak
07-08-2009, 07:23 PM
After you've increased sts, don't start your rows the same as written. It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette, and then after the first inc, you would start the pattern on the 2nd st. After the next inc, start it on the 3rd st, though after 3 incs, you'd be able to start the row on the first st again.

You will need to walk me through this.
Do I make the increase on the first & last stitch of the row? or do I do it on the 2nd stitch and the next to last stitch (which is how I was doing it)?
It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette The pattern edge sts is: k,p,p,p,k,p and I should change that to k,p,k,p,k,p.
On all purl increase rows, I just purl across. I am assuming it is not the purl increase rows that are creating the offset in the pattern, but the p1,*k1,p1 rows.
On the p1,*k1,p1 rows I start the pattern on the 2nd st. If I am increasing on the 2nd live stitch, then it would be the 3rd stitch that I start the pattern with. I've been knitting the 3rd stitch so that would change to a purl.
........ I'm getting confused!

suzeeq
07-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Basically, you just work the new sts into the pattern. I'm thinking the edge sts would be in a seam, so you could pretty much do them in stockinette and it wouldn't show much. Row 3 is the only patterned row, everything else is a knit or purl, so that's the only one you need to worry about. Look down at the last row 3 you did and on the current row, do the sts the same, it's just that you'll have to go 'backwards' a bit at the start of the row to include the new sts in the pattern.

SilverOak
07-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Row 3 And Row 6 are pattern.

suzeeq
07-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Oh yeah, but it says to repeat row 3 for row 6. So as I said, look at the previous pattern row, make sure the knits and purls will be lined up in the same column, and do the new sts in whatver comes before the repeat.

SilverOak
07-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Oh yeah, but it says to repeat row 3 for row 6. So as I said, look at the previous pattern row, make sure the knits and purls will be lined up in the same column, and do the new sts in whatver comes before the repeat.

Thank you for being patient. I don't completly understand how the sts are making the pattern so it will be difficult to analyze it in that way. This isn't a stockinette stitch. It runs knit, purl, purl>knit, purl, knit, purl>knit. I would need to understand how the mock waffle is made to know what was needed next. And that would take awhile to figure out. Unless, you know?

suzeeq
07-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Have you knit a bit of it in that pattern? If not, then CO about 20-24 sts and knit up a sample to see what it looks like. After about 12 rows, then do increases and maybe that will help you see how the new sts need to fit in. I'm not very good at explaining it, but I can 'see' it when I'm knitting.

SilverOak
07-08-2009, 09:17 PM
Just wondering. If I increased on the first and the last stitch instead of one stitch in, would that help to keep the pattern in line? I'm using p1f&b as the increase stitch because after experimenting it seemed to not leave any visible hole. Is that the best increase. The pattern does not specify. It just says to increase.

suzeeq
07-08-2009, 09:35 PM
It may help your head to keep it straight! lol

You can kfb/pfb in the first st and the 2nd to last st so the increased sts are still one st in. When a pattern doesn't specify anything, just use what you think looks best, which you have.