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ahugh 11-22-2010 06:48 PM

fisherman's rib

Im having a difficult time doing this English rib from Drop Design. After I cast on 29 st. purl on the ws and then k1 and p1 on the rs. Now i start row 1: 1 garter st, (is this the same as k1?) and at end with 2 remaining st finish with k1 and 1 garter st again is this same as K1? at row 2: Im totally lost at this row. my rib ended up with an unravel look instead of the purl like. I also went into "You Tube" for video tutorial from Dropstitch and my swatch still does not come out like her swatch. What am I doing wrong? Pleas help. I included the pattern below. Thanks in advance.

ENGLISH RIB (back and forth on needle):
Row 1: 1 garter st, * K1, 1 YO, slip next st as if to P *, repeat from *-* until 2 sts remain, finish with K1 and 1 garter st.
Row 2: 1 garter st, * 1 YO, slip 1 st as if to P, K tog YO and slipped st*, repeat from *-* until 2 sts remain, finish with 1 YO, slip 1 st as if to P, 1 garter st.
Row 3: 1 garter st, * K tog YO and slipped st, 1 YO, slip 1 st as if to P * repeat from *-* until 3 sts remain, K tog YO and slipped st, 1 garter st.
Repeat row 2 and 3.

HAT: Worked back and forth on circular needle.
Cast on 27-29 sts on circular needle size 10 mm with Polaris. P 1 row from WS, and continue in rib from RS as follows: 1 GARTER ST – see above, rib K1/P1 until 2 sts remain, finish with K1 and 1 garter st. Continue in rib until piece measures 7 cm (last row worked from WS). Change to circular needle size 15 mm and continue in ENGLISH RIB on next row from RS – see above! REMEMBER THE KNITTING TENSION! See NEW BALL TIP!
When piece measures 26-28 cm work 1 row stocking st with 1 garter st each side, AT THE SAME TIME K3 tog across the row = 14-15 sts.
Cut the thread, pull through remaining sts, tighten and fasten.
Sew hat tog, edge to edge.

suzeeq 11-22-2010 06:59 PM

Row 1 is not a garter row, just the first and last stitches. Which means knit them on both sides.

This isn't exactly a 'drop stitch' pattern, it's called Brioche st, where the YO and slip st are knit together on the next row. You might be able to find a better tutorial for it on the Brioche website. It also takes about 2" of working the pattern before it looks like it's supposed to, a couple rows of it just isn't enough.

ahugh 11-22-2010 11:49 PM

I know the row 1 is not a garter st row.:)) its the 1st & last stitch in "garter st" but isn't it a knit? why didn't it called the brioche st in the first place? this pattern is from "Drop Design" and the tutorial is from their site Dropstitch. what is the difference between the fisherman, english and brioche stitch? They seem to look the same but different technics? Thanks for the correct name of this stitch pattern. i hope i get.

suzeeq 11-23-2010 12:37 AM

Yes, the first and last stitches are knit to keep them in garter stitch. It's mostly how the pattern is translated into english. What is called one thing in one country is more commonly know by a different name in another country. The Garnstudio site where the Drops patterns are located is Norwegian. Fisherman's rib is done with a k1below stitch instead of the sl/yo that's k tog on the next row. It does give the same result as brioche in spite of being done differently. And there's a difference in sts as to whether you purl or knit in between the slipped or the k1below stitch.

hyperactive 11-23-2010 02:01 PM

there is no knitting god that gave the commandments. Therefore the same term can mean different things, the same thing can have different names and it all comes down to: explain what you want in your pattern, that is safer.

I personally do a lot of patterns from Garnstudio. That is Drops Design and Drops yarn (great yarn, great price, by the way). A drop stitch page I do not know. Their videos I find here:

So what site have you found the video on?

Another sample of what kinds of these "rib" patterns there are you find here:

Maybe that gives you an idea of different techniques - and of why there is a special explanation with your pattern.

ahugh 11-25-2010 01:55 PM

Thank you!!! I've completed the project and it look very nice. I had follow a video on you tube. Thanks again for your all your help!:cheering:

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