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ebasketballbab 01-15-2013 08:55 PM

Zig Zag Lace Beanie
 
I want to knit a hat in the round, in a design similar to this pattern: http://www.knittingonthenet.com/stitches/zigzaglace.htm

Only I want to make some changes. I would like to add some purls. Also, since I want to knit in the round, I had to change the odd rows. So, these are some changes I would like to make (which would be different from the original instructions found in the link):
Row 1 and all odd rows (WS): *k4, p; rep from *
Rows 2, 4, and 6: *k2tog, yo, k2tog, pfb; rep from *


After this is where I run into some trouble with these instructions. This is what the original instructions say to do: Rows 8, 10, and 12: *sl1, k1, psso, yo; rep from *.
A) Where would I add the purls into it? And do I "sl1" purl-wise or knit-wise? Is this decrease the part that creates the zigzag?
B) When I'm supposed to "k1", why isn't it k2tog? I know it's because then I'd be decreasing by two and not one because of the "psso", but in the rows before I had to k2tog. I am somewhat of a beginner, and I see that in the photo it works out and you can't tell the difference. My question is WHY can't you see the difference?

Hope this makes sense to other people like it does in my head hahaha, and I also hope that me being a beginner and asking all of these questions doesn't seem really dumb to you guys!

Thank you!!!

(Edited for corrections and clarity!)

ChatyKathy 01-15-2013 09:21 PM

On rows 8,10,12 there isnt a YO in it so no increase, when there is a Yo you are increasing and that is why there is a K2tog and on the other rows there isnt a YO. Hope this helps some. On the rows you are to knit I guess you could do purl across if you want to.

ebasketballbab 01-15-2013 09:37 PM

But on rows 8,10 and 12 there IS a "yo", which is cancelled by the "psso". I meant would the thickness look the same if I don't "k2tog"?

mojo11 01-16-2013 11:20 AM

You're doing two different types of decreases here, the first is the k2tog, the other is the sl1,k1,psso, which is essentially the equivalent of ssk. Sometimes it's abbreviated "skp" or skpo" which (to me) makes it a little more obvious that it's all part of one operation. The important part is that both of them decrease one stitch, they just "lean" in opposite directions (k2tog like / and skp like \... I think). So (from what I can see) it's the combination of the two that creates the "zig-zag". And the YO's create the holes that make it lacy.

Also, since this is a decrease, you'd skip the "sl1" stitch knitwise. I think it also matters that the next stitch is a knit, but it might not. normally if the pattern doesn't specify otherwise, you'll slip purlwise UNLESS the stitch is part of a decrease. Which this is.

suzeeq 01-16-2013 12:03 PM

Oh Hi, I ran into your similar post on another forum; here's what I wrote there.

You would have to start with the right number of stitches for the repeats. Then, if you add sts like with pfb that's going to throw off the repeat.

So in the even rows 2-6 you could - *p1, yo, k2tog; rep from *. to make the ribs 3 sts wide instead of 2. On even rows 8-12 it would be - sl1, k1, psso, p1, yo; rep from *. Or you could have the purls at the end of the sequence. Then the alternate rows would be p1, k2, or k2 p1.


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