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kaydeecan 01-18-2013 01:54 AM

I'm stumped
 
When I knit this pattern P1, K4, K2tog, k2, yo, p1, yo, k2, ssk, k4 I get 20 stitches, but I think I should only have 18 because the next row is p1, k8, p1, k8. What am I doing wrong? Please help.

Jan in CA 01-18-2013 02:01 AM

Are you doing the two decreases? I counted 18 on that first line after decreases.

GrumpyGramma 01-18-2013 02:06 AM

I too count 18.

salmonmac 01-18-2013 08:13 AM

Are you only carrying the yarn once over the needle for each yarn over and are you doing the k2tog and ssk correctly? You should start the row with 18sts, increase 2sts with the yo's and decrease 2 with the k2tog and ssk. So the row finishes with 18sts again. Take a look at the videos for yo, k2tog and ssk on the Glossary page just to be sure.

mojo11 01-18-2013 10:37 AM

My ability to add short columns of small numbers is admittedly suspect, but I count 18 too.
P1 (1)
K4 (4)
K2tog (1)
k2 (2)
yo (1)
p1 (1)
yo (1)
k2 (2)
ssk (1)
k4 (4)
=======
total 18

If you're getting 20, I'd guess the most likely suspects would be in the YO's getting an extra wrap. The decreases are ... possible I guess, but it'd be hard to make 20 that way unless you just forgot to do them altogether. The YO's seem more likely since they happen on either side of a purl. Having to get the yarn to the front and still make the YO can be... confusing. At least it is to me. So it'd be easy to get an extra wrap in there I imagine.

kaydeecan 01-18-2013 12:38 PM

Thanks for your replies. I am doing the decreases. The mistake must be in the yo. I'll pay better attention and see what I am doing wrong.

kaydeecan 01-18-2013 12:45 PM

Mojo 11-I see that you have counted only one stitch for the yo. But when I do yo I get an additional stitch. so I have
p1=1
k4=4
k2tog=1
k2=2
yo=2
p1=1
yo=2
k2=2
ssk=1
k4=4
So now I have 20. Obviously the yo's are causing me the problem. I have watched the video for doing yo's and they are increasing one. Sorry to be so dumb, but am still stumped.

kaydeecan 01-18-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan in CA (Post 1367193)
Are you doing the two decreases? I counted 18 on that first line after decreases.

http://www.michaels.com/Caron%C2%AE-...efault,pd.html

GrumpyGramma 01-18-2013 12:53 PM

When I first started doing YOs it was hard for me too. Finally I gave up trying to follow instructions and just looked at the yarn, and made it go over the needle once and be at the front for a purl or at the back for a knit. Once you can get it to work and do it a few times, it should be fairly easy to repeat and soon you'll not have to think about it. I could sit here and look at how I do it but I don't know if even then I could tell you how. Maybe I don't even do it right, but the end result looks and works right.

mojo11 01-18-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaydeecan (Post 1367239)
Mojo 11-I see that you have counted only one stitch for the yo. But when I do yo I get an additional stitch. so I have
p1=1
k4=4
k2tog=1
k2=2
yo=2
p1=1
yo=2
k2=2
ssk=1
k4=4
So now I have 20. Obviously the yo's are causing me the problem. I have watched the video for doing yo's and they are increasing one. Sorry to be so dumb, but am still stumped.

I suspect that what's causing the problem is the transition from knit to purl (and back) with a YO in the middle. And it may not be the YO itself, but what you're doing next that's giving you the extra stitch.

I'd feel more confident in my advice if I were doing it and noting what I was doing, but I think what's wanted here is to bring the yarn forward between the needles, just as you would when going from any knit to any purl, then continue around and over the RH needle and then back to the front -- between the needles. Then purl as normal for your next stitch. But I'm doing this in my head, not with my hands, so I might be visualizing it wrong. Can't hurt to try a row that way and see if it gives you the right count.

Good hunting!


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